Finished Mafia XXXIX: Superheroes Vs Supervillains - Mafia has won!

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Been a bit busy, so sorry about not posting until now!

Celever said:
Prof started Day 1 with highly unnecessary pressure against newer players, doing the scum tactic of targeting new townies to make them panic and slip because of their inexperience with the game rather than their faction. He was the primary push behind Jesi's premature and underdeveloped lynch because he shouted louder than everyone else. This is also not how Prof usually plays as town on Day 1, as he oftentimes steps back a little bit and observes rather than charging into the action head-first.
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I don't think Prof was pressuring too much nor is it particularly abnormal for him. I'm pretty sure he was somewhat aggressive Day 1 the last game, but since there was only you and him during Day 1 this game, he probably felt the need to step up the pressure and the scumhunt. You say that it's a scum tactic, but Camo did is so much that those who spent their early mafia around him would find this very much town. I think you're meta reading wrong here.

Day 2 brought about a radical playstyle change, which is also strange of Prof, as he's played the game long enough to be comfortable with an established way of playing the game. I think this is because he's noticed that the more he posts the more opportunity we have to build evidence on him, and the more publicity he forms around him. I speculate that this is because Little Cherrim is a member of the town, and he is looking to be the likeliest lynch besides Prof.
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Now this is what I find quite scummy, and would be one of the main reasons I would want his lynch. The playstyle change was very dramatic, and apparently it's because he's just busy, but I'm not 100% convinced on that.

He's hoping that his silence will passively direct pressure and bloodlust towards Little Cherrim, which is ironic, considering the main point bb has on Little Cherrim is inactivity. This means that if Prof flips scum, bb looks quite likely to be scum as well, looking at how these cases interact.
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Which is ironic, because that was not my main point on Little Cherrim. My main point was that they were getting coached, and then that they were pretty much ignoring me.

The nightkill really only makes sense if Prof is mafia. It defies logic besides. The two logical kills were myself and Prof, and if neither of us die Night 1, the likeliest scenario is that one of us is mafia... and that ain't me. bb confirmed that he got his role part-way through the night, so this also opens up the possibility that he didn't want to kill experienced players. However, based on past games, I believe bb would have tried to feign a team of inexperienced players to gain credibility amongst the new players on the town once he nightkills the advanced ones. It fits his playstyle well, and is a strategy he's tried before to great success. I've stated in a couple previous posts why the kill p much only makes sense if Prof is mafia, so I won't repeat entirely. His desperate plea for credibility after NP's death backs this point up immensely.
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I do not understand why you have not been considering the possibility of both you and PP being completely on the wrong track with your reads, meaning that the scum would want you two around, so you cause mislynches. I think this is more likely than the theory that either you or PP are scum.

Prof's lynch will also provide a lot of information. I hadn't brought it up yet, but it's true. :p
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This is very true. xD
 
DAY 2 Votecount 2

The people who are being voted are in chronological order
7 votes for a majority
The player with the most votes is tagged
If you think there’s anything wrong, just ask

Little Cherrim 0: bbninjas (vote) l Blakers (vote) l
Mirdo 0: Celever (vote) |
Blakers 1: Celever (vote) | bbninjas (vote) | Tempest (vote) |
Celever 2: GM DracLord (vote) | vracken (vote) | rainyman123 (vote) |
GM DracLord 2: Celever (vote) | Mordacazir | rainyman123 (vote) | Little Cherrim (vote) | Vracken (vote) |
@rainyman123 4: Blakers (vote) | Tempest (vote) l Mordacazir (vote) | Mirdo (vote) |
TheSceptileMaster 1: Rainyman123 (vote) |

NOT VOTING: Lord o da rings | Little Cherrim | TheSceptileMaster

Day 2 will end on Friday at 7pm EST
 
Also guys... rainy is just as scummy as he was in the past two games we've had. We wasted so much time lynching him or trying to get him lynched because he did or said very odd/weird/strange/questionable things, and both times he flipped town. He's actually trying to scumhunt, which is a big step up from his first game. Him nitpicking on agreeing with other people is a neutral indication at best. @Celever probably wouldn't know this, nor @mordacazir or @mirdo. However, @Blakers and @丅ᗴᗰᑭᗴᔕ丅 have played games with rainy and should know this by now, so FOS at both of you.

Blakers said:
I'm not even sure if this is meant to be taken seriously.

Sorry rainy, but to me you're looking kind of scummy right now. You've been posting a fair amount of fluff, and you've been switching from one target to another. You've gon from PP to Celever and now it looks like you think Sceptile is scum alongside Cherrim? Of all people, why would you consider TSM scum? He's provided a fair amount of contribution to the game, and I'm definitely reading him as town. I'm also surprised you haven't already attempted to contribute to the case against me. All in all, there isn't much contribution and you are constantly switching targets. So if you had to pick your biggest scum read, who would it be and why?

##Unvote: Little Cherrim
##Vote: rainyman123
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This is a really dodgy vote from Blakers.
----> rainy always looks kinda scummy
----> rainy always posts a fair amount of fluff or strange accusuations
----> rainy aways switches from one target to another
----> rainy has been at least trying to contribute more than Blakers, so this is ironic

I think this is scum pushing for an easy mislynch to save his skin.
 
Vracken said:
The case on Blakers, from what I can remember is that they often lurk/fly low as you put it, so I don't think that is particularly alignment specific, however them saying that it is usually higher is strange to me because I thought it wasn't the case. I will double check activity day one and two when I get the chance later, but for the time being that doesn't fit with what I remember.
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I actually recall Blakers making logical contributions in past games, actually, and not lurking/flying low like he has been at all.
 
The thing is, rainy hasn't directly answered any of me or Celever's questions and is instead trying to make a case on Celever. In Duck Hunt, I recall him responding to accusations a lot, even though he was under a lot of pressure. Now, he isn't. I agree, however, that his tendency to act scummy makes it hard to tell if he actually is.
 
丅ᗴᗰᑭᗴᔕ丅 said:
The thing is, rainy hasn't directly answered any of me or Celever's questions and is instead trying to make a case on Celever. In Duck Hunt, I recall him responding to accusations a lot, even though he was under a lot of pressure. Now, he isn't. I agree, however, that his tendency to act scummy makes it hard to tell if he actually is.
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I actually thought that was pretty consistent with rainy's play. Anyway, by this logic, why weren't you voting for Little Cherrim earlier when they pretty much ignored me?
 
bbninjas said:
I actually thought that was pretty consistent with rainy's play. Anyway, by this logic, why weren't you voting for Little Cherrim earlier when they pretty much ignored me?
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You make a good point…well, Little Cherrim is newer, and I don't know if it's normal for him/her to ignore people because he/she hasn't played before (or not to my knowledge). He/she has also not posted a lot, so it isn't a solid case yet. If he/she was being coached, I think his/her scumbuddies would probably have gotten him/her to post by now. The last post Little Cherrim made was kind of unmemorable, though, so that might be scummy. At least Rainy is trying to scumhunt and be productive, as you said, so I think the Little Cherrim case is still one to pursue. Then again, Rainy could be scum and covering it up by acting scummy as usual, and you could be protecting your scumbuddy. I don't really know, I need to read your posts a little more. >.<
 
Welcome to the game Drac!
##UNVOTE: Drac
##VOTE: rainyman123
If rainy is scum we have a good lead on bb now.
 
丅ᗴᗰᑭᗴᔕ丅 said:
The thing is, rainy hasn't directly answered any of me or Celever's questions and is instead trying to make a case on Celever. In Duck Hunt, I recall him responding to accusations a lot, even though he was under a lot of pressure. Now, he isn't. I agree, however, that his tendency to act scummy makes it hard to tell if he actually is.
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and then I get mislynched and flip town, and it was a mislynch.
 
Celever said:
Welcome to the game Drac!
##UNVOTE: Drac
##VOTE: rainyman123
If rainy is scum we have a good lead on bb now.
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So, if rainy is scum, I'm scum because I decided to think logically? Rainy being scummy like he has been is not indicative of alignment - it's neutral.
 
Idek how my behavior is scummy, I'm trying to put the last couple o games behind me, which means I'm trying to seem less scummy. How am I super scummy this time?
 
Celever said:
Welcome to the game Drac!
##UNVOTE: Drac
##VOTE: rainyman123
If rainy is scum we have a good lead on bb now.
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I want reasons from you as to why you think rainy is scum and why that is not abnormal for him.
 
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