Finished Mafia XXXV: Pokemon Card GB3: Team GR's Last Stand

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Nah, last game I had a vote weight of 3, except when I was voted for it dropped to 0. I got really salty by Day 4.
 
Actually, it looks like it's RF who has a vote weight of 2.

PMJ said:
Here is a vote count as of post 373

mordacazir: 1 (Card Effect)
Squirtle Squad: 0 (PikaMasterJesi)
PikaMasterJesi: 2 (thegrovylekid quakingpunch73 Camoclone Jabberwock quakingpunch73 ExcalAura4D, mordacazir Camoclone)
TheFlyingPidove: 0 (quakingpunch73 quakingpunch73)
thegrovylekid: 2 (PikaMasterJesi Luispipe8, bbninjas)
quakingpunch73: 8 (PikaMasterJesi simsands, Squirtle Squad, Celever, PikaMasterJesi, Camoclone, scattered mind, thegrovylekid, Jabberwock, quakingpunch73, Vom) L-3
Vom: 1 (double o squirtle Celever)
bbninjas: 0 (scattered mind)
Keeper of Night: 1 (PikaMasterJesi Reinforce)
Celever: 0 (scattered mind)
Jabberwock: 0 (PikaMasterJesi)
scattered mind: 0 (bbninjas)
ExcalAura4D: 0 (PikaMasterJesi PikaMasterJesi scattered mind Camoclone)

Not voting: 5 (King Xerneas, Miyami~~, TheFlyingPidove, Keeper of Night, Vom)

At no time did any player reach eleven votes.

Day 1 ends June 27 at 2 PM CST, or about 66 hours from the time of this post.
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Here, quaking is at L-3.

ExcalAura4D said:
Also, if this matters, I think after reading a bit more and looking through what other people have to say, I'll do this.

##UNVOTE
##VOTE Quakingpunch73
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then, Excal votes quaking. PMJ doesn't pop in to say Excal is at L-1. After this, Jesi unvotes to leave Quaking at l-3.

Reinforce said:
Mint could as easily be a reluctant double agent in the flavor and still be technically aligned with scum.

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: quakingpunch73

At this point I'm seeing quaking's defense as a form of reverse psychology. Claiming he wants to be lynched while having a defeatist attitude and admitting he has looked scummy would make us intentionally think there's more to his role than he claims (and we already have, suspecting he's a bomb or has an OP role or has a role that benefits scum when he's lynched), and it's going to make us hesitate to vote for him --- an attempt to buy time and a lesser attempt to spare him in the expectation that he could prove his role in the future. In addition, there was that uncharacteristic AtE.



It isn't horrible when it's possible that the scum would benefit from his lynch (like simsands postulated) combined with the fact that there are way too many votes on him now that would be more trouble to remove from him than just giving up on him and bussing him.

Depending on his flip, we get some ammo against Jesi (whom I still do not find trustworthy for reasons I've stated in my previous post) and Celever tomorrow.


Reading over Excal's posts, I believe him to be newbie town. The desire to not get lynched because he wants to stay in the game is almost exactly what happened to PikaMasterJesi early on in WWXXXIV; Excal might have internally panicked at the first sign of pressure/desire to get him off the game, and went the arrogant sarcasm route in defense (people do react differently in defense). A coached newbie would most likely be told not to do that, hence his reactions read genuine and unplanned to me, which are signs pointing to newbie town.
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The next person to vote is Reinforce Remember, at this point quaking is at L-3.

PMJ said:
quakingpunch73 is at L-1.
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Then, PMJ comes in and says that quaking is at L-1. Therefore, RF has a vote weight of 2.
 
thegrovylekid said:
Actually, it looks like it's RF who has a vote weight of 2.


Here, quaking is at L-3.


then, Excal votes quaking. PMJ doesn't pop in to say Excal is at L-1. After this, Jesi unvotes to leave Quaking at l-3.


The next person to vote is Reinforce Remember, at this point quaking is at L-3.


Then, PMJ comes in and says that quaking is at L-1. Therefore, RF has a vote weight of 2.
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So Excal doesn't have vote weight of 2? If so, it is weird, after she implied that she does.
 
thegrovylekid said:
Actually, it looks like it's RF who has a vote weight of 2.


Here, quaking is at L-3.


then, Excal votes quaking. PMJ doesn't pop in to say Excal is at L-1. After this, Jesi unvotes to leave Quaking at l-3.


The next person to vote is Reinforce Remember, at this point quaking is at L-3.


Then, PMJ comes in and says that quaking is at L-1. Therefore, RF has a vote weight of 2.
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Not at all. Let's say this happened:

quaking at L-3
Excal votes, quaking at L-1
Jesi unvotes, quaking at L-2
RF votes, quaking at L-1
PMJ comes on and says he's at L-1.

PMJ has a life and can't be around 24/7. He probably didn't immediately say quaking was at L-1 because he wasn't sat at a computer at the time. It's not a bot or anything, so don't make dumb assumptions. Excal just claimed a voteweight of 2, so I don't see why you even did more analysis. Were you trying to pin him as a liar?
 
ExcalAura4D said:
It's not that I didn't know what it meant, that was obvious. I was confused because I thought that roles and/or cards were something that is only known to the player, and no one else.
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It does. They simply deduced it from the vote counts.
 
ExcalAura4D said:
I don't really know if I want to/should say anything to this, I'm not sure if this is something that's been revealed and is okay to say.
Just more confusion on my part.
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It's been revealed and isn't against the rules, don't worry! :) There really isn't anything you can't post in the thread (obviously it has to abide by the actual rules of the site). After all, if you weren't allowed to claim your role, then when quaking posted his "Role PM" earlier, he would have been modkilled for it by now, right? ;)
thegrovylekid said:
Considering that Excal didn't know what "vote weight of 2" meant, I'd say he implied it because that's what someone else had implied for him.
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He confirmed it, he didn't imply anything.
thegrovylekid said:
No, I was pointing out other possible possibilities.
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Why?
ExcalAura4D said:
It's not that I didn't know what it meant, that was obvious. I was confused because I thought that roles and/or cards were something that is only known to the player, and no one else.
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They're only sent to the player and no one else, but your role happened to show up publicly on vote counts. It's a common feature of your role. That player can do what they want with them and can tell whoever they want, which is what "claiming" is -- when in a dire situation, players normally post their roles in the thread.
 
Hmm, looking at it again, this only serves to prove that multiple people have a vote weight of 0...
 
ExcalAura4D said:
I'm just going to quickly say thanks, I understand the whole situation now, but I'm still not sure I should talk about my role while you guys are figuring it out.
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Assuming you're town, you shouldn't want to go around talking about your role unless it's necessary. We do not want to let the scum know the details of the town roles, as it helps them determine the most optimal night kill targets. You usually only want to reveal your role/details about your role when the benefits outweigh the risks of giving scum more information.
 
Vote count as of post 460

mordacazir: 1 (Card Effect)
Squirtle Squad: 0 (PikaMasterJesi)
PikaMasterJesi: 0 (thegrovylekid quakingpunch73 Camoclone Jabberwock quakingpunch73 ExcalAura4D mordacazir Camoclone)
TheFlyingPidove: 0 (quakingpunch73 quakingpunch73)
thegrovylekid: 2 (PikaMasterJesi Luispipe8, bbninjas)
quakingpunch73: 10 (PikaMasterJesi simsands, Squirtle Squad, Celever, PikaMasterJesi Camoclone, scattered mind, thegrovylekid, Jabberwock, quakingpunch73, Vom ExcalAura4D, Reinforce) L-1
Vom: 1 (double o squirtle Celever)
bbninjas: 0 (scattered mind)
Keeper of Night: 0 (PikaMasterJesi Reinforce)
Celever: 0 (scattered mind)
Jabberwock: 0 (PikaMasterJesi)
scattered mind: 0 (bbninjas)
ExcalAura4D: 0 (PikaMasterJesi PikaMasterJesi scattered mind Camoclone)

Not voting: 7 (PikaMasterJesi, King Xerneas, Miyami~~, TheFlyingPidove, mordacazir, Keeper of Night, Vom)

Day one ends June 27 at 2 PM CST, or 45.5 hours from the time of this post.
 
pg. 18

Catching up so far. The claim is safeclaim material but if people think he's town we shouldn't lynch him just for info. I need to readback which I dont have the time for right now.
 
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