It's undeniably a bandwagon.
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Please create a short list of reasons why scattered is scummy. I'm not following 100% yet.
Please create a short list of reasons why scattered is scummy. I'm not following 100% yet.
I did during my ISO but I'll gladly condense.
Only the votes, which I didn't think to make them in order, since it is not really important ...
You mean the part where I question quaking, after he ignores other people? That was in order to make him answer. Often I believe it is called to pressure.
Or maybe the part where I say I find the buddying accusation weird? Check again, I was the first to point that out.
Or perhaps it was the one where I tried to understand the case so I explained it, and asked if this is it? I have already explained how this is not echoing, and it is simply how I verify that I got the case right. Same thing as I did with KX. and in many other cases in other games.
The main reason why I think tgk is scum is that I believe his activity and content of his posts are similar to those in the game where he and I were scums. This is certainly not the best reason, but that is what I got for now. This is something I found in the beginning of this day, and since then, I was looking for better options, but there were barely any posts from people. I was trying to understand the case on KX, and after that came the fall of weird accusations on me, so admittedly, I was more focused on explaining myself than hunting scums.
That'd be great.
I did. I think the case on scattered is:
- questioning unlike normal town meta
- bandwagoning
- poor defence
But I think there is more hence why I'm asking.
Bandwagon. Nothing inherently wrong with it but when all you do is bandwagon and have no individual thoughts as a veteran something is wrong.
His posts all have a way out. They all have a clause which gives him a way to get out of any blame. They either a) wagon. Or b) say nothing relevant at all and account for all possible scenarios. Read this post. The bold is my thoughts.
Bandwagon. This is just piggybacking and trying to gain town credit. Questions like this are unnecessary and are primarily used to gain credibility.
He appeals to emotion. Bold.
AtE.
Ok let's think this through. If you were actually trying to scumhunt you'd realize how little sense this makes. He straight up says that activity has nothing to do with role. Then in the very next line he says "your activity matches your scum meta". 0 sense. No I didn't snip anything out of this.
Major points:
- Bandwagoning - Very little individual contributions. This is very bad from a veteran. He asks more questions than he contributes. These questions don't actually contribute anything because they are just statements made by other players in question form. It's also an extremely safe way to post. No one will really call you out for asking questions.
- He covers his bases. He never says anything concrete and fails to actually truly throw his weight behind anything.
- He wants to please. You can clearly see how he is trying to appeal to emotion and be agreeable.
- Hypocritical. See below.
- His defense has been straight up awful. A key point being below. It's just been all over the place.
I probably didn't format that right but whatever. Click the arrow on that baby. It's pretty great. I missed some parts and am too lazy to actually compose them into a nice little post.
I didn't bother proofreading so please excuse any spelling errors.
I went and found the definition of a bandwagon from the new rules and terminology, and it said this:
BB, in response to your question:
–Questioning with minimal unique contribution
–Possible bandwagon? (I don't quite understand this part of it, but at the same time I do... Hard to explain. Some parts do and some parts don't.)
–Poor, panicky defence which fails to address everything in question
Camo has done it a lot better than I have, but these are what I've noticed myself.
I'm not entirely sure how this falls into the current game state, but I'll find a way.
BB, in response to your question:
–Questioning with minimal unique contribution
–Possible bandwagon? (I don't quite understand this part of it, but at the same time I do... Hard to explain. Some parts do and some parts don't.)
–Poor, panicky defence which fails to address everything in question
Camo has done it a lot better than I have, but these are what I've noticed myself.
Can I ask where you found that definition? Was it in the old document, or is it from someplace else?
Thanks for linking! I'll check it out now.
The case on SM is the poor defense he gave for the very same case. Logic, stay with us.
Yes, I think the cases Celever makes are good, yet long, thus require some time to read, which I did. You think it is AtE? Sorry, I can't argue with what you translate. The only thing I can do, is to say I was under no pressure to try and make people happy or whatever.
Seriously? Because I didn't use hedging, you accuse me. So I was suppose to say : Excal is probably the best lynch for today.. before saying in the same post that the case on quaking still need to be checked.
Activity does not have anything to do with roles. Not alignments ..
But.. this is my playstyle.. as many have mentioned.
And as for the key point for my bad defense:
I lost it. I was angry because of all the twisting. What is clear though, is that he uses that confusion to ignore my real defense to the point of me not having my own individual thought. Camo never responded to what I was saying about me making the case on tgk, posting about TFP, and questioning quaking's accusation of Celever and bbninjas buddying.
Yes, I think the cases Celever makes are good, yet long, thus require some time to read, which I did. You think it is AtE? Sorry, I can't argue with what you translate. The only thing I can do, is to say I was under no pressure to try and make people happy or whatever.
Seriously? Because I didn't use hedging, you accuse me. So I was suppose to say : Excal is probably the best lynch for today.. before saying in the same post that the case on quaking still need to be checked.
Activity does not have anything to do with roles. Not alignments ..
But.. this is my playstyle.. as many have mentioned.
And as for the key point for my bad defense:
I lost it. I was angry because of all the twisting. What is clear though, is that he uses that confusion to ignore my real defense to the point of me not having my own individual thought. Camo never responded to what I was saying about me making the case on tgk, posting about TFP, and questioning quaking's accusation of Celever and bbninjas buddying.
Saying that people's cases are good is AtE. If I say your cases are good, you will generally be fairly happy with that, and it is a technique scum may like to use to get people on their side.
This also doesn't address Camo's point that you posts consistently have a way out.
I don't think you have actually addressed the fact that your questions don't contribute all that much.
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