Finished Mafia XXXV: Pokemon Card GB3: Team GR's Last Stand

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Usually people dont care my leftover hint.. But thanks bbninjas for pointing that out. Nonetheless i was hoping penguin to admit nothing but since he admit it already..

Regardless, is this your effort to direct to add another lynch candidate to the table.. Me voting you know will be omgus. And i prefer to keep sm alive for today bu i don't want to vote someone who nearly lynch.
 
@scattered mind Out of everyone who's alive, here's my reads in an undetailed format:
Vom, BB, Jabber, Camo, Reinforce, Luis, and NinjaPenguin are all reading town to me. Morda and Drac are both reading scum to me. Not sure what to think about Scattered or PP yet, though I think Scattered is possibly the last scum. PP hasn't been around enough for me to read him too solid, but I think he's town.
I'll go more in-depth if you guys want, but this is just my reads in brief.

And i prefer to keep sm alive for today bu i don't want to vote someone who nearly lynch.
No one was even focussing on Scattered right now. Most, if not all the attention is on you and Morda, so why would you randomly spout that out?

Anyways, the QT part of all this I'm finding to be a huge thing to focus on. It could be an insight to what alignment Drac is from Excal's messages, and the fact that Drac brought it up anyways was a little suspicious. Were you trying to pin Ninja as scum based off the DOS hint?

After this new evidence against Drac, I have reason to consider him over Morda, so I'm going to remove my vote for now.
##UNVOTE: mordacazir
 
Based on what i read, scatter is the 2nd choice of some.. I was not pinning penguin at the moment. Just to leave it in case i dont survive to tell. Never meant for it to be reveal to early
 
And yeah, I suppose the cards could be held as a group. And @(whoever said cards could have been used, I think it was Jesi), I believe those cards were limited to be used starting N3, so only one of them would have been used if any.
 
He probably thinks you were just talking to Reinforce in the scum chat and that's why you tagged him instead of Jabber.

I can't believe I missed that dos reference. Dx It seems so obvious now. @NinjaPenguin would you mind quoting some relevant messages from the QT?
And yeah, I suppose the cards could be held as a group. And @(whoever said cards could have been used, I think it was Jesi), I believe those cards were limited to be used starting N3, so only one of them would have been used if any.
Yes, it was Jesi. However, one was limited to after N1, another one to after N2, and so on. After N4, (and usage requirements are fulfilled) any of their cards could be used. But like I said, we'd know.
 
Yeah, it's just that it fits modra's common behavior, while it seemed very unusual compared to Squirtle Squad's. The A was not the important argument, the B was.

I see... The way you worded it though:

A) We attacked Squirtle Squad for similar reasons, and he was town

... made it seem like the "and he was town" had bearing on whether the argument could be suitably used or not. But remember that back yesterday, we had no way of knowing that yet, so this is an argument that only works with foresight of the result that happened (SS flipping town).

As for B, it's a meta-based read, and it's on a game that's not the most recent, so we can't really tell if it's fully applicable assuming he hasn't changed his playstyle by now. If we're looking at it just based on this game, what we majorly have on him that's scummy is that he's refusing to answer questions directed at him. You might think it's a newbie not knowing what to say under pressure or how to answer, but morda, while relatively new, has already a couple games under his belt (one of them as scum), so he has no excuse (aside from inactivity) to not answer and fight back the pressure on him.

@Reinforce

I just have a feeling something not really right about the QT. But since Luis pointed out that anyone can get that card. Hence like you said, this issue no longer have any merit to be pursue. So I'm just gonna let the QT fly away with a fleeing ZapDoS

Anyway, Luis when did you get the card and which day you used it. Out of curiosity

The QT itself or the messages in it? Are you allowed to quote messages? Anything in particular that stands out to you?



With NinjaPenguin's latest post, I sort of understand what prompted GM Draclord to suddenly talk about QTs. I think what's happening now is that these two don't trust each other and think the possibility of the other being scum is likely, thus the tension. Drac did it subtly, NinjaPenguin laid it all out above. To help us decide on what's really going on with these two, I think it would be beneficial to get some particular posts from them. I mean, there's got to be something to make them think "Hey I can't trust this guy". When Luis opened a QT with TGK (apparently), we didn't hear any tension about it from the way Luis talks about it.
 
DoS first post > Hey Excal. I'm townreading you quite a bit after the posts you made in D1 so I made this QT with you.

So what do you think about what's going on between RF/Celever right now?

There's a few things that I think could be happening.
1.Celever is trying to clear RF and they're both scum.
2.Celever is town and has just cleared RF as confotown.
3.There's a role effect that's affecting the results.

I find option 2 the most likely since option 1 seems too risky and the chances of option 3 happening doesn't seem as likely.

Excal only post > Thanks, I guess?

I'm not too sure, I feel like it's really hard to have opinions on this stuff while still being new and not exactly knowing what a scumtell is, because everything just seems to make whoever more suspicious no matter what they do.
There's definitely a huge layer to this I'm missing before I can make smart calls on what to think about everyone in-game.
I'm trying my best to read up on the forum (since I kinda forgot about it for a bit) and trying to understand everything.

Option 3 definitely doesn't seem very likely.
I think that Option 1 is pretty risky, but it does seem like a possibility.
I think the safest option and probably the most probably would be 2.

But that's just what I think, I'm still getting used to this. X3
 
Dos >
Scumtells are basically things that scum do more often than town. Take fluff posting, for example, it clogs up the thread with posts irrelevant to discussion making it anti-town.
Would you mind posting the PM you received with the link for this chat?

Dos >
Would you mind posting the PM you received with the link for this chat?"
In here of course. Not the main thread.

Drac >
Give me few days to catch up.. Need to go around today for the festive

Drac >
dos actually i do mind posting my whole role not unless you share me yours also

DoS >
Not your role. Just the PM with the link for this chat.

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Then i gave the link before dos being replace by dogger n replaced again.
 
Who did you target and why?
Why do you need to know that but here:
target camoclone.
I like how there's no comment on the things we've brought up on him. Could you do that please, Morda?
(especially when there are questions he still needs to answer).
Thing is, we've presented some points on him today and Morda hasn't commented on one of them.
What points except for my normal scummy playstyle, I can't find any. :(
 
Morda, I'm talking about these:
Like BB said, activity does not denote alignment. Just because Vom is active doesn't mean he's automatically town; heck, with that logic that makes Reinforce, Luis, Drac, PP, and even you scum.

No effort to expand on why he feels this way. You could've at least told us what's making your decision hard the best you could.

To me, the "maybe it's nothing" part is a little confusing. Could you expand on this? In addition, I'm finding the fact that Morda jumped onto the SS wagon with no comment a little interesting. At least with Luis, he made the effort to say he echoes everything already said, but this could just be a useless thing I noted.
I think there's some others, too, but these are the ones I've presented to you and you've ignored them.
 
Can someone please quote all of GM's posts for me? There's only like 10 so it's pretty easy if you are at a computer.
 
Guys, the Morda lynch is horrible. He appears to always act this way. Here is some quoting from Maria XXXI (where he was town) to demonstrate this:























I still believe in a Drac lynch because he and Excal both did some highly questionable thing. Here is a list of some of these weird posts:

In all truth, this quote is very over-hyped, as it it very likely this is referring to Jesi, but it's still worth mentioning.

This quote screams scum. Why would any townie need to get away with anything?

As everybody has pointed out, I wasn't defending her.



This strange focus on QTs looks weird by itself, so let me explain. DoS started a QT with Excal with a friend ball, presumably to help Excal, who he thought was a struggling townie. As both players have subbed out, Drac and I have basically been in a standstill when it comes to talking, as we both have no reason to trust each other. The quotes you see above are weird, as some people have pointed out, because Luis and TGK are both seasoned players. With this new knowledge, you can see that what he is really referring to is DoS, a fairly experienced player, making a QT with Excal, a new player. Since I was telling the town of my suspicion of him above, this is just him grasping at straws to attack me and a very subtle OMGUS.
In conclusion, Drac/Excal has many more reason to be lynched than morda.
  • Obviously scummy lines
  • Random attacks on me
  • OMGUS
  • Grasping at straws
##Vote: Drac
So basically you are defending Mord because it's his "playstyle" but ignore the fact that GM also always tends to play like this?
 
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