As much as coma action look scummy it may proof to be the opposite.. If he is on a right track as a towny he is dead anyhow tonigh.
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you are usually more active then this ##Vote : scattered mind
Everything in that vote count is correct.
You know IE is town?
@thegrovylekid, I believe you missed a post of mine? anyways, here's another one :v
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Camo's behavior is odd now, tbh... I mean, I understand the frustration, of course, but as easily as those inactive players can be town, they can also be scum. We can end up getting at least a scum member modkilled, by chances. Yeah, we'll lose players but discussion will be kept the same because the vocal players will remain alive.
I do find sm's post weird, and I don't really get Keeper's slip...
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Camo's behavior is odd now, tbh... I mean, I understand the frustration, of course, but as easily as those inactive players can be town, they can also be scum. We can end up getting at least a scum member modkilled, by chances. Yeah, we'll lose players but discussion will be kept the same because the vocal players will remain alive.
I do find sm's post weird, and I don't really get Keeper's slip...
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What risky plays have I made? I have done nothing noteworthy this game. I've made no claims except that I wasn't the one who redirected what looks like everyone to me. And yes that also begs the question of why I wasn't killed if that was the case. I'm looking forward to hearing your case on me because I can't even understand it and I tunnel like a son of a gun.
Didn't PMJ have two votes, according to somebody? So either Camo has -1 or PMJ never received the vote as we were told.
Also, how could I "know" IE is town? Of course I don't. If he's modkilled and flips scum... yay? He wasn't active so we have no ties to any other scum through him. And, odds are, he's actually town. I keep having to repeat this, but when people get an exciting role, they usually play it. I don't know anything one way or another, and neither does anybody else. (You remember the game we're playing, eh?) I can only give you the odds.
PMJ:
First scummy signs were when he voted SS during RVS after more than enough RVS votes were placed on him. PMJ vote made this RVS wagon so big, that people first felt an actual need to unvote before SS gets accidentely lynched:
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PMJ tries to explain his vote by saying SS would not have panicked with the previous amount of votes, and that he was trying to get SS's reaction. However, SS had already responded to the wagon (twice) before PMJ's vote.
So when being called for it, he said:
How is your RVS vote is any different than the other RVS votes? Why would he respond to your RVS vote in particular? Especially after he had already responded twice to the other RVS votes?
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NP votes PMJ, stating that the potential of double votes makes voting and joining a big wagon, is dangerous. This is an obvious statement. I have no idea how it can be interpreted to think that NP knows something about a specific person with a double vote. And that is the reason I was confused by PMJ's reaction:
He obviously meant- in general, the potential of double vote weight. Though others mentioned it was not so obvious, the reaction is still weird and kinda dumbtelling, but then:
PMJ votes NP for the thing he mentioned about the double vote. Making this point:
So ok, maybe you could come to that logic, but why not waiting for NP's response? Did it really not occur to you that he just made a general statement about something that happens literally every single game?
After I call PMJ for it, this is what he answers:
Simply ignoring the point I made about the fact that NP's post was probably a general statement.
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He is not even speculating about the amount of scums in this game. He is just giving this as a given fact.
These are the scummy things I've noticed about PMJ.
About Camoclone: I don't think his actions against inactives are scummy, as I can see him being angry on inactives as scum and town.
First scummy signs were when he voted SS during RVS after more than enough RVS votes were placed on him. PMJ vote made this RVS wagon so big, that people first felt an actual need to unvote before SS gets accidentely lynched:
And then:
PMJ tries to explain his vote by saying SS would not have panicked with the previous amount of votes, and that he was trying to get SS's reaction. However, SS had already responded to the wagon (twice) before PMJ's vote.
So when being called for it, he said:
How is your RVS vote is any different than the other RVS votes? Why would he respond to your RVS vote in particular? Especially after he had already responded twice to the other RVS votes?
Next:
NP votes PMJ, stating that the potential of double votes makes voting and joining a big wagon, is dangerous. This is an obvious statement. I have no idea how it can be interpreted to think that NP knows something about a specific person with a double vote. And that is the reason I was confused by PMJ's reaction:
He obviously meant- in general, the potential of double vote weight. Though others mentioned it was not so obvious, the reaction is still weird and kinda dumbtelling, but then:
PMJ votes NP for the thing he mentioned about the double vote. Making this point:
So ok, maybe you could come to that logic, but why not waiting for NP's response? Did it really not occur to you that he just made a general statement about something that happens literally every single game?
After I call PMJ for it, this is what he answers:
Simply ignoring the point I made about the fact that NP's post was probably a general statement.
Next:
He is not even speculating about the amount of scums in this game. He is just giving this as a given fact.
These are the scummy things I've noticed about PMJ.
About Camoclone: I don't think his actions against inactives are scummy, as I can see him being angry on inactives as scum and town.
I honestly think Camo has a jester role. As broken as they are, it's the only explanation I have for his behavior. Your last post doesn't even make sense, Camo, and it isn't something you'd let snybody else get away with. You've lost all reason for us to take you seriously anymore.
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I'll read more on your points when I'm not mobile, SM.
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I'll read more on your points when I'm not mobile, SM.
Yes, I realize you didn't vote. Doesn't change the context.
Us is a strong word here. You are the only one who is overreacting? Why are you afraid of actually being lynched? Like you said I can just let the inactives be modkilled. Why is it you hit your activity peak when we are discussing why activity is scummy?
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You're still holding onto this? Okay then.
My vote was not strictly RVS. It was to see how he'd react. He didn't have to respond to me specifically.
So what you're saying is that it's strange for me to be confident in 4 scum + indie in this setup given the number of players and not strange for NP to speculate that there might be someone with double vote weight? Wait, he didn't speculate, he gave it as a given fact.
This case is less than nothing.
My vote was not strictly RVS. It was to see how he'd react. He didn't have to respond to me specifically.
So what you're saying is that it's strange for me to be confident in 4 scum + indie in this setup given the number of players and not strange for NP to speculate that there might be someone with double vote weight? Wait, he didn't speculate, he gave it as a given fact.
This case is less than nothing.
I just skimmed through all of this before I go to school... and it's just a mess. >.>
Especially when Camoclone decides to play anti-town too. >.>
Camoclone being jester is very highly unlikely to me, because I would expect him to be playing much more differently.
Especially when Camoclone decides to play anti-town too. >.>
Camoclone being jester is very highly unlikely to me, because I would expect him to be playing much more differently.
Hey I was just rephrasing what @Keeper of Night said. Inactives can't be scum so actives obviously must be.
Isn't that the point of RVS, though?
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Why is it that you reach your activity peak when telling us why inactivity is scummy? 8 posts within 13 minutes, and all of them are basically saying why inactivity is bad and that you're going to hunt inactives. I realize that I'm pretty inactive, but your posts did nothing to help me find good reasons why people are scummy. Shouldn't we be hunting scum instead of smacking down on every inactive? Just let them be subbed out, for pete's sake. It would get the desired effect and no one would have to die pointlessly.
Also, TGK says the inactives will be subbed out, not modkilled.
So town won't be hurt; they'll be aided when inactives are replaced by better players. At least, that's how I see it.
My biggest scumread atm is PMJ due to the points Scattered mentioned, a general oddity I feel about his posts, and the fact that he was a bit quick to jump on the "lynch inactives" thing.
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