Finished Mafia XXXVII: Celever's School Grades ~ Game Over!

[Scattered mind]

@double o squirtle Where would you put yourself on your ranking list if you weren't you? As if you didn't know you were town?

 

[Scattered mind]

@Mr.Muffin
I felt that double o squirtle was overanalyzing every post, but after the game developed a little, he started to give off towny vibes
I then voted for inferno since he was acting very suspicous.
The bbninja vote was a mistake, because I totally forgot that the game partially focused on influencing lynches and people.
The PikaMasterJesi contradiction was that before Celever and Jesi stated the V/LA were for private reasons that did not have anything to do about the game directly, I felt that it was suspicous to take a V/LA while being targeted as scum and being analyzed

So you think we should lynch Jesi today? If not, why ?

 

[Scattered mind]

Thank you for explaining your mindset for each of the posts.

I still disagree about the V/LA being related to the game play.

I don't understand, did you change your mind about TSM? Or do you still find him scummy in the same way before he responded?

 

[King Xerneas]

The way you write "fiasco" with citation marks slightly strengthens that idea, and no one has called it a fiasco in the main thread.

They're more air-quotes since from what I originally read it seemed pretty heated, but I don't think it would exactly fall under the category of fiasco. Reading back it was definitely more game drama than an actual fiasco.

Speaking of reading back, looking back around the end of D1 and even around D2 SS raised my suspicions. BB even pointed out how SS sounded like he was so sure that Robin was town and when it came to the Gaydar scandal, SS seemed to neglect the fact that Robin has and will manipulate host given information. I'm not sure whether it was in jest, but SS's reaction to Camo's impediment was also just off, even considering to LaL for something so minute.

 

[Scattered mind]

I think the dos thing is that she was really pressuring new players (mainly @Inferno390, iirc), which is kinda scummy if they're the only ones you're pressuring.

That about right, Camo? And, uh, why aren't you saying anything? :U

I asked Camo for what was his case on DoS for all that time. He avoids sharing his reads throughout the game on DoS including now. So why posting this? Why give him a potential thing to say on something he might have not expected on being asked?

 

[double o squirtle]

@double o squirtle Where would you put yourself on your ranking list if you weren't you? As if you didn't know you were town?

If I were to add myself I'd do this:

Jesi > Camo > SS = me = scattered > simsands

 

[Scattered mind]

If I were to add myself I'd do this:

Jesi > Camo > SS = me = scattered > simsands

And Jesi is higher than Camo because of the general points other than the voting pattern itself?

 

[double o squirtle]

And Jesi is higher than Camo because of the general points other than the voting pattern itself?

No. That list was just regarding voting patterns.

 

[Mr.Muffin]

I don't understand, did you change your mind about TSM? Or do you still find him scummy in the same way before he responded?

He is still on my radar, but elaborating on his plays does give me more insight to how he is playing.

I was just appreciated his response, and didn't you ask him a question that never got answered?

 

[Camoclone]

I said I would make a comprehensive case when my internet returns.

 

[Camoclone]

Stop asking targeted questions they are so scummy. I told you this last game.

 

[TheSceptileMaster]

@scattered mind
I do not know whether I feel that Jesi should be lynched or not because I want to A. wait for the conversation to give me something to understand/build upon B. not waste my vote

 

[Jabberwock]

I asked Camo for what was his case on DoS for all that time. He avoids sharing his reads throughout the game on DoS including now. So why posting this? Why give him a potential thing to say on something he might have not expected on being asked?

wdym? Camo gave his answer; I gave mine, which I suspect might also have been Camo's.

@scattered mind
I do not know whether I feel that Jesi should be lynched or not because I want to A. wait for the conversation to give me something to understand/build upon B. not waste my vote

What are your thoughts on Day 1?

 

[Scattered mind]

He is still on my radar, but elaborating on his plays does give me more insight to how he is playing.

I was just appreciated his response, and didn't you ask him a question that never got answered?

Yes I understood that you appreciated his comment. My question was about your stand on whether he is scummy in your eyes or not, which was not included in your respond to TSM, but was added in your response to my question.

@scattered mind
I do not know whether I feel that Jesi should be lynched or not because I want to A. wait for the conversation to give me something to understand/build upon B. not waste my vote

A. What do you mean? Are you waiting for more evidence on Jesi?
B. You are not wasting your vote unless you actually vote. Thus, you are free to say if you think someone should be lynched.

wdym? Camo gave his answer; I gave mine, which I suspect might also have been Camo's.

Where did Camo give his answer about why DoS is scummy?

 

[TheSceptileMaster]

@scattered mind I want more evidence on Jesi before I vote for Jesi and realize there was no solid reason for me too do so.
@Jabberwock My thoughts on Day 1 are that it was big voting spree with nobody having actual proof, but the Professor Paultena and Robin argument just gave us two choices to vote for, and we eventually voted for PP

 

[Jabberwock]

Where did Camo give his answer about why DoS is scummy?

He said "Yes". Several times. I can quote them for you if you'd like.

I didn't figure he was going to say anything more. NP was asking for a point against double-o; why shouldn't I have given him one, if Camo wasn't going to? Are you that concerned about double-o?

@Jabberwock My thoughts on Day 1 are that it was big voting spree with nobody having actual proof, but the Professor Paultena and Robin argument just gave us two choices to vote for, and we eventually voted for PP

Yes, I gather that is indeed what happened. But what are your thoughts on it?

Were you in favor of the PP lynch? Why or why not?
Were you in favor of the Robin lynch? Why or why not?
If you answered no to both of the above, who would you have voted for in Day 1 and 2, and why?

 

[TheSceptileMaster]

I was in favor of the PP lynch since Robin seemed like he wasn't lying but PP was over reacting

 

[Scattered mind]

I think the dos thing is that she was really pressuring new players (mainly @Inferno390, iirc), which is kinda scummy if they're the only ones you're pressuring.

That about right, Camo? And, uh, why aren't you saying anything? :U

Here is where you give your own opinion on why Camo thinks DoS is scummy, not why he is scummy in general, otherwise why would you ask " is that right Camo?"

wdym? Camo gave his answer; I gave mine, which I suspect might also have been Camo's.

You are saying this as if you have two different points on DoS, but that's not true. Camo did not answer why DoS is scummy and just said yes to another thing I said and then kept commenting yes until he said he will tell us why DoS is scummy when he has time. You didn't gave your answer to a general question " why DoS is scummy?" but instead, you answered for Camo to a question that was not directed to you.

He said "Yes". Several times. I can quote them for you if you'd like.

I didn't figure he was going to say anything more. NP was asking for a point against double-o; why shouldn't I have given him one, if Camo wasn't going to? Are you that concerned about double-o?

Where did NP ask for a point against DoS? And again, you didn't say why DoS is scummy, but why you think Camo thinks he is scummy.

 

[Jabberwock]

Here is where you give your own opinion on why Camo thinks DoS is scummy, not why he is scummy in general, otherwise why would you ask " is that right Camo?"

Nono, I think this is a misunderstanding. Back before I subbed in, when I was just reading through the thread to stay more or less connected to the game, I saw double-o's pressuring of Inferno and I noted it as scummy behavior. Then, scrolling down to the next post, I saw that Camo had placed a vote on double-o. I figured that Camo had voted him for the same reason I thought he was scummy, so I brought that up when I was subbed in.

You are saying this as if you have two different points on DoS, but that's not true. Camo did not answer why DoS is scummy and just said yes to another thing I said and then kept commenting yes until he said he will tell us why DoS is scummy when he has time. You didn't gave your answer to a general question " why DoS is scummy?" but instead, you answered for Camo to a question that was not directed to you.

What two points on dos? I don't think I have more than one.
And okay, I can understand you wanting Camo's response, and if he's going to give it to you when he has time, then that's all great. But I don't see a problem with me bringing up a point on dos. Are you thinking Camo wouldn't actually have had a response, and that my response gave him a way out?

Where did NP ask for a point against DoS? And again, you didn't say why DoS is scummy, but why you think Camo thinks he is scummy.

My mistake; it was you asking for a point, not NP. >.> Link to the relevant post.

 

[Scattered mind]

Nono, I think this is a misunderstanding. Back before I subbed in, when I was just reading through the thread to stay more or less connected to the game, I saw double-o's pressuring of Inferno and I noted it as scummy behavior. Then, scrolling down to the next post, I saw that Camo had placed a vote on double-o. I figured that Camo had voted him for the same reason I thought he was scummy, so I brought that up when I was subbed in.

Yeah but if you answer for and before someone y..

What two points on dos? I don't think I have more than one.
And okay, I can understand you wanting Camo's response, and if he's going to give it to you when he has time, then that's all great. But I don't see a problem with me bringing up a point on dos. Are you thinking Camo wouldn't actually have had a response, and that my response gave him a way out?

Yep you read my mind.. That is kind of what I was thinking about. It may not be likely that Camo would actually not have a response, but the act of answering a question for him is still weird. I mean, why would you not wait to read what Camo is actually talking about, and if the answer he gives is not a real answer, pressure him to answer the question? I do understand what you said in the quote above the above quote, and it is ok to share your own opinion on someone, however the part where you figured that Camo had voted him for the same reason is what bugs me a bit.

My mistake; it was you asking for a point, not NP. >.> Link to the relevant post.

Oh, ok, so yeah that is just my same point that you answered a question that was not " why DoS is scummy" but more like "Camo, why were you mentioning DoS as scummy throughout the game but have not actually told us why?".