Finished Mafia XXXVIII: Battle for the Republic (Congratulations Darth Sidious!)

[quakingpunch73]

Not defending yourself gives me very little information to go off. I'm not sure why you're thinking that AtE would come from the scumhunting/overcautious stuff. I'm also not sure why town quaking would be thinking like this. I'm pretty sure they normally don't do this.

AtE comes from that stuff because I'd explain why I don't have the time to scumhunt/why when I'm not cautious, I'm lynched, derailing the scumhunt. I do find you saying how it gives "you" little info kind of suspicous though. It sounds like you're referring to yourself as being separate from the town.

Why would saying "I'm the best lynch" likely make him scum?

His AtE read as being scum AtE to me. It felt to me as if he would have voted himself early if I hadn't, ending the day early, which is what scum tries to accomplish.

##VOTE: quakingpunch73

Reason?

 

[NinjaPenguin]

Reason?

Same as yesterday.

 

[Vracken]

##VOTE: quakingpunch73 reaffirming my vote from the previous day.

His AtE read as being scum AtE to me. It felt to me as if he would have voted himself early if I hadn't, ending the day early, which is what scum tries to accomplish.

which is what you did isn't it? Unless I am miss reading what you meant

 

[Vracken]

His AtE read as being scum AtE to me

Ignore this part from my last post.

It felt to me as if he would have voted himself early if I hadn't, ending the day early, which is what scum tries to accomplish.

so aren't you admitting to scummy behavior here?

 

[bbninjas]

AtE comes from that stuff because I'd explain why I don't have the time to scumhunt/why when I'm not cautious, I'm lynched, derailing the scumhunt.

You are not allowing scumhunt to happen because you aren't giving reasons. If you don't have time to scumhunt, then there's no reason why you shouldn't just say that.

I do find you saying how it gives "you" little info kind of suspicous though. It sounds like you're referring to yourself as being separate from the town.

I'm not going to be the one doing the scumhunt for the entire town. Everyone has a part to play, and I'm referring to my part - my hunt.

 

[quakingpunch73]

so aren't you admitting to scummy behavior here?

When I voted rainy, he was at 5 votes. By all accounts, he shouldn't have been lynched. I didn't vote him with the intention of hammering. So, no, I'm not admitting to scummy behavior.

You are not allowing scumhunt to happen because you aren't giving reasons. If you don't have time to scumhunt, then there's no reason why you shouldn't just say that.

Well, I've been busy with school as of late, which has kind of put a damper on my mafia time. I'm being overly cautious because, like most people, I don't particularly want to be lynched.

I'm not going to be the one doing the scumhunt for the entire town. Everyone has a part to play, and I'm referring to my part - my hunt.

I get where you're coming from, but, with the exception of Vrack, everyone is bandwagoning onto your cases.

Same as yesterday.

Your only reason was that you agreed with bb's case. You pretty much wagoned unless there was a reason that I missed.

 

[bbninjas]

Well, I've been busy with school as of late, which has kind of put a damper on my mafia time. I'm being overly cautious because, like most people, I don't particularly want to be lynched.

I don't recall you normally being this cautious.

I get where you're coming from, but, with the exception of Vrack, everyone is bandwagoning onto your cases.

Perhaps you could provide some different lynch options?

 

[quakingpunch73]

I don't recall you normally being this cautious.

I played similarly to how I am now in Mafia XXXVI. I was only the game for around one Day, but I just wanted to outlive Day 1.

Perhaps you could provide some different lynch options?

Personally, I'd suggest NP.

Many of his Day 1 posts focused on rainy, while not contributing much, such as these:

Jesi's backpedal is scummy, though not out of character for her. I wouldn't vote her for it.

We said this in Duck Hunt, but post volume is not a scumtell. Most of the reason you are on the chopping block is because you haven't seemed to learn from your mistakes, which is either A) Scum trying to play to your town meta or B) Genuinely not learning (showing a lack of listening). Both of those are anti-town.

Inactive Players: If I literally don't know you're playing, it's not a good thing. We will lose if activity is low.

Raniy's claim is edited, but knowing how he plays the rest of the game, it's not that scummy. And after seeing what Prof P said, I'm not sold on his lynch right now. The policy lynch argument is stupid (since he said he was going to try to help), and him not learning can be interpreted as a sign of newness. @rainyman123 If we leave you to tomorrow, you need to learn from your mistakes and listen to us. You also need to cut the AtE and not use WIFOMy reasoning to say you are "obviously" town. I'm only leaving you because you vowed to improve and you are playing to your meta. Get scum hunting.
##UNVOTE: Rainyman123

This looks like some slight buddying to me. TSM has only played one game, and it was as scum. We don't know his town meta at all, so saying it's the same just makes the case better. His lynch could provide good information too, especially on you.
##VOTE: TheSceptileMaster

This also looks strange to me. Jesi is aggressive, but she is also pretty non-committal at times. Sitting on the fence fits her early game meta a lot.

Can everyone who hasn't posted recently offer their opinions of the lynch before it happens?

FoS on everyone who left the Rainy lynch because "it wasn't going to happen". Don't do this. If you truly believe in the Rainy lynch, stick to your conviction.

@rainyman123 Did you read this?

In Day 2, he barely contributed much, once again, except for his case on Blakers, which was flawed because Blakers was a new player and could not have been judged to the standards of an experienced player, and his rolefish, which was blatantly scummy, and I could see scum trying to do something like that in order to see if they should kill you. In Day 3, he still did close to nothing aside from clinging to your case on me and still continues to do so in Day 4.

Personally, he's the most likely person to flip scum to me, so I'll put my money where my mouth is and ##Vote: NinjaPenguin.

 

[NinjaPenguin]

Many of his Day 1 posts focused on rainy, while not contributing much

Are any of those posts fully focused on Rainy or non-contributing (besides the last one)?

In Day 3, he still did close to nothing aside from clinging to your case on me

In Day 3, I pressured Robin. I never "clung to the case against you."

 

[Jabberwock]

Why would I do it is the definition of WIFOM.

But I do find it odd that you would actually do that as scum. That also makes NP no longer on my suspect list for now.

NP is not clear. Why would NP be clear? If he's scum he's one of the few players who would know Rainy's and TFP's alignments for fact (bar indie but w/e). It's fairly easy for a scum to gain towncred by saying "Hey I think this guy is town" and having them flip––surprise––town.

 

[bbninjas]

I played similarly to how I am now in Mafia XXXVI. I was only the game for around one Day, but I just wanted to outlive Day 1.

But you have outlived Day 1?

I think NP has been contributing more than about half of the players, so I don't think they're a good lynch. He seems to get tunnel vision occasionally, but at least he's trying to scumhunt.

 

[VinculumStellarum]

But you have outlived Day 1?

He's referring to the game I hosted, I think.

I honestly really don't know what to say. I haven't really thought about posting as much as I normally do, and I know I should change this, but school is also a really big priority for me this year. Maybe it's just because I haven't had a lot of pressure on me and that makes me feel less inclined to post. I don't know.

I don't have much to say because I haven't followed the game too intensely. I should probably ready back sometime soon so that I can catch up.

 

[Robin Aisaga]

PikaMasterJesi, I get that school is a priority, but if you have time to make a small post like the one above. Please give us something that is slightly contributional even when it's just one small read.

I agree with BBninjas that QuakingPunch is a better lynch candidate for today. I for one don't think TGK's claim was a made up. I have to believe he used some kind of common sense when he claimed no Jedi was targeted by an ability. Any one of us could've proven him wrong. But TGK probably thought it was save because the message came from Squirtle Squad.

Some fair points have been made against QuakingPunch. But I admit the case he made on NinjaPenguin has some merit. So far NinjaPenguin has only been pushing lynches on players that flipped Jedi. quakingpunch's behaviour does seem out of place though. What convinced me he is likely scum is the sudden claim. And that ability he has looks too strong. I'm going to place my double vote and that will put quakingpunch in the red zone, be careful if you don't want to end day 4 early.

##VOTE: quakingpunch73

 

[Scattered mind]

Why do you do that?

 

[Robin Aisaga]

Why do you do that?

The vote count of two is my passive ability. I couldn't place one vote even if I wanted to

 

[Scattered mind]

Yeah I get that, but why did you vote if the day just begun and you know scum might want to use this momentum to end it?

 

[Robin Aisaga]

Hm okay fair point. He could vote himself to end the day.

##UNVOTE

 

[bbninjas]

PikaMasterJesi, I get that school is a priority, but if you have time to make a small post like the one above. Please give us something that is slightly contributional even when it's just one small read.

I agree with BBninjas that QuakingPunch is a better lynch candidate for today. I for one don't think TGK's claim was a made up. I have to believe he used some kind of common sense when he claimed no Jedi was targeted by an ability. Any one of us could've proven him wrong. But TGK probably thought it was save because the message came from Squirtle Squad.

Some fair points have been made against QuakingPunch. But I admit the case he made on NinjaPenguin has some merit. So far NinjaPenguin has only been pushing lynches on players that flipped Jedi. quakingpunch's behaviour does seem out of place though. What convinced me he is likely scum is the sudden claim. And that ability he has looks too strong. I'm going to place my double vote and that will put quakingpunch in the red zone, be careful if you don't want to end day 4 early.

##VOTE: quakingpunch73

Most things here are echos, which is ironic considering you're calling Jesi out for not contributing.

The bolded is either false or a fallacy. NP pushed for Rainy (who later flipped Jedi) and TSM Day 1 (who flipped Senator), Blakers Day 2 (who flipped Jedi) and quaking Day 3 (who is yet to flip). And if what you said is true, I'm not sure exactly what you are implying by saying that.

 

[Robin Aisaga]

Most things here are echos, which is ironic considering you're calling Jesi out for not contributing.

The bolded is either false or a fallacy. NP pushed for Rainy (who later flipped Jedi) and TSM Day 1 (who flipped Senator), Blakers Day 2 (who flipped Jedi) and quaking Day 3 (who is yet to flip). And if what you said is true, I'm not sure exactly what you are implying by saying that.

Echos? Those are points I made myself a while ago and they still stand. I stated them to explain my vote. And yes, Ninjapenguin was also onto TSM but he was a senator. I don't think his arguments for these lynches were that strong either.

 

[simsands]

Hey guys, I'm back from my V/LA (which @Squirtle Squad seems to have forgotten all about). I should have time to read back on what's happened in more detail later on tonight, so I'll try to compose some thoughts by then.