Lots of folks complaining saying these are Vmaxes again, but what made the Vmax in-game dynamic bad was the fact that whoever was going first, would evolve on the second turn and kill their opponent's basic V, often meaning they lost the game on that tempo swing alone. This is not that, like, at all. The fact that they have corresponding stages of evolution to their regular counterparts is also huge. So you really have to weigh wheter having a bit more HP than their regular counterparts is worth the extra prize they'll give. Plus, we'll have a much more varied distribution of 2 prizers and 3 prizers than we had back then, with all the regular exes around. Lots of bad knee jerk reactions floating around...