raymond25962 said:
Yeah, but it's still completely even. You just have to except that about Stadiums, even though they are good, they are usually going to help your opponent. You just have to play ones that help you more then your opponent.
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Yeah, but it's still completely even. You just have to except that about Stadiums, even though they are good, they are usually going to help your opponent. You just have to play ones that help you more then your opponent.
Once you play with 2 beach in a stage 2 deck, you will never want to go back. Its too good in Blastoise. Best money I ever spent in this card game IMO.
SheNinja said:I think Tropical Beach is the best starter for this deck. I feel that 2 should be played if that's possible, to counter Virbanks and Skyarrows that are poopping up. The first turn should end up with an energy on the board, 2 Klinks in play, and a Beach to end the turn.
Congrats Baby_Bl!I was just talking to you about that lol.
3 is a better amount because people generally only run 2 of their stadium, unless you just want it early game. In that case I'd go 4 Skyla 1 Beach 1 Shift Gear Klinklang.
exdarkrai01 said:
Blui129 said:SheNinja said:I think Tropical Beach is the best starter for this deck. I feel that 2 should be played if that's possible, to counter Virbanks and Skyarrows that are poopping up. The first turn should end up with an energy on the board, 2 Klinks in play, and a Beach to end the turn.
Congrats Baby_Bl!
3 is a better amount because people generally only run 2 of their stadium, unless you just want it early game. In that case I'd go 4 Skyla 1 Beach 1 Shift Gear Klinklang.
I only want 1 early game, and the other is in case one is prized or I want to discard their stadium. I agree that 2 Tropical Beach in a Stage 2 deck is a good use of money, if you are playing competitive.
Actually, I've taken out the Pokémon Center and played HTL in their places. I don't like helping my opponent out, and HTL has actually come in handy. So if they play Virbank, it'll help me too. I don't mind it.
What are your guys' opinions on playing Benchtini for the mirror?
What are your guys' opinions on playing Benchtini for the mirror?
Serperior said:
I'm sure it could be alright. I think the mirror can be won by enough Max Potions and a consistent list... and going first, but I wouldn't have a problem with someone running it.
I don't know...
Adding 1-2 Victini and 2-3 Fire energy isn't going to help consistency. And the deck really doesn't have the room for it either.
But it is a good idea. So if you can get it to work, kudos to you.
Adding 1-2 Victini and 2-3 Fire energy isn't going to help consistency. And the deck really doesn't have the room for it either.
But it is a good idea. So if you can get it to work, kudos to you.
Keeper of Night said:
You'd run Prism's, not Fire's.
Serperior said:
Wait - your tech for the mirror is a single copy of a card, but, you only run a single copy of the energy necessary to use it? So if you prize the Prism or the Benchtini, it's an entirely useless tech. Why would you... and why Mewtwo, even? In what scenario is it soooooo helpful? Or, rather, in what situation is it helpful enough to devote 2 energy slots to DCE (inconsistent/harder to get to in lower numbers unless you devote a comp search just to finding them), when you can't move them, they make Mewtwo a glaringly easy target to return KO (which defeats the point of the lock), and they can just get Enhance Hammer'd and then you find yourself down a turn of attachments?
I run Mewtwo in the case my PlasmaKlang is down and/if there's a Mewtwo for the taking. When I can't get Victini out, I get Mewtwo EX to return KO it with X-Ball. At that point, I'll have the only threat to my Metal-types down. I don't care if they take two Prizes off of the Mewtwo, because they won't be getting any more. It's also kind of fun to have the option to Gear Grind if need be. A fun rogue idea would be to run 2/2 of the Klinklang, run Fliptini, and 4 DCE to Gear Grind for 160 haha.
Machamp the Champion said:
That's even worse. They play Enhanced Hammer and then you lose your tech.
Keeper of Night said:
Klinklang doesn't run Enhanced Hammer. I guess there's Cobalion EX, but if you run Fire's, then your consistency and Max Potion power go waaaaay down. I also run Blends for Keldeo anyway, so if you already run Blends, just take the Blends out for Prism's.
You don't really want to run special energy in this deck, Darkrai/Hammers already gves Klinklang a hard time. You don't want to waste energy attatchments, especially since they don't even need to flip a coin to get rid of any Prism/Blend you play.
Keeper of Night said:
Yeah, I can understand your point. I'm not arguing it doesn't make the Darkrai/Hammer match up worse, I just prefer the ability to deal decent damage with Keldeo. It can also do 110 to 130 if you get 3 or 4 Blends on it, which is more then any other attack in the deck (other then Energy Press or Gear Grind on occasion).
Machamp the Champion said:
It may be able to do the most damage, but you also must remember that it is open to attacks from EXs since it isn't protected by Klinklang. I don't think you should be piling energy on Keldeo unless they are trying to use BenchTini.
Serperior said:
I don't understand how... Mewtwo is the "only threat" to your Metal-types. Which deck are we talking about here that runs heavy Mewtwo and can OHKO Plasmaklang in a hit (except for Blastoise, which doesn't really run Mewtwo anymore anyways)? Mewtwo should be afraid of Metal-types, not the other way around. And why would you give up two prizes at all? You just two hit them, and they can't hit you at all back... I'll even humor you and say that the only potential way that a Mewtwo could get big enough to KO Cobalion's would involve a lot of DCEs, so you just use the first attack and discard a double, ensuring that Cobalion would survive... I'm not sure why you're running Victini either.