Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament IT ALL STARTED HERE!

What do you think of Project Custom?


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RE: Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament BY INVITATION ONLY!

Well I usually help everyone who asks.....Its just a real pet-peeve of mine when people SPAM my important threads.....so I kinda get lippy. So hopefully we can put this behind us and everyone who dosent know me can learn some fun tips about how not to piss me off :]

-Black Rayquaza
 
RE: Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament BY INVITATION ONLY!

Ok guys I finished my first draft! Ill take the feedback please. Wow im first 3 times in a row! Im usually the procrastinator!

Bannercopy.png


Ok um relvence to the challenge, no sprites, anamation, or Muk, so Im good!

Time:6 hrs, I tried alot of diffrent things to make this and ended up doing something COMPLETELY diffrenent than what I originally tried.

75 gradient for all pokemon and 25 for all but misty, who is 40
Bulbapedia for all pics
Backround: Rectangle with satin and gradient over lays, dont really know what else, I was playing around and I liked it.
Font: Paprus, 40 and 30 pt.

This is also going to be my new banner after I get feedback advertising my fic!

Hope everyone else gets their stuff in. Also wishing that the next challenge extrends into the weekend because I get home at 6 every night and no easter vacation for me this year. We have to go on friday AND monday! Dumb teachers strike!
 
RE: Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament BY INVITATION ONLY!

Im sorry for all the spaming but I just can find some program to teach me to make banners and alll the other stuff.
 
RE: Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament BY INVITATION ONLY!

i is dropping out since i have other things to do and b-ray has been a b#### to me

kthxbai
 
RE: Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament BY INVITATION ONLY!

Allright then....your choice,but dont expect me to let you in again. You've been alot of trouble leaving and then coming back and making hypocritical remarks towards not only me but Project Custom In general.
Good luck with whatever you may do with Art in the future.

-Black Rayquaza
 
RE: Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament BY INVITATION ONLY!

I just have one thing to say, and youre probably going to use it against me: learn to be a little more...i don't know...polite? you flame me just for asking a question, insult most of the things people make, and are just generally rude to me. If this is what art is, congratulations, because i'm going to quit doing art. i hope you're happy.

Someone's going to flame me, i know, just let me tell u that i won't be reading this thread. goodbye.
 
RE: Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament BY INVITATION ONLY!

I've been nothing but polite to you the entire time this contest has been going on. Im not the one who critisizes Project Custom and how it works.....I mean you go and say the challenges are horrible and then say their pretty good??? I dont think thats pretty polite TBH.....if you're looking for a contest that wants someone like that go and join a N00B contest.....they'll take anyone even though you may join and then say how horrid it is. Im done with this...you've got some issues you need to sort out.

Until Then,
-Black Rayquaza
 
RE: Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament BY INVITATION ONLY!

this WAS the only thing i enjoyed doing...thanks, just thanks
 
RE: Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament BY INVITATION ONLY!

pika2 dont quit if its about him being inpolite to me because it was bad that I just kept on asking people to help over and over agan.
 
RE: Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament BY INVITATION ONLY!

Well, I quit too. This just sucks up my time, and I really want to do other stuff than work on entries all day. 7Lucario7Master7, I think Pika2 was talking about B-Ray being mean to Pika2.
 
RE: Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament BY INVITATION ONLY!

Zzzdark said:
Well, I quit too. This just sucks up my time, and I really want to do other stuff than work on entries all day. 7Lucario7Master7, I think Pika2 was talking about B-Ray being mean to Pika2.

Wow....I give 6 Days to make one piece of art and people suddenly start having time issues. This sucks. I guess I just have to be way more careful when picking who Im gonna invite......but its cool. Learning experence for me, and I can reform and then make a more sucessful one in the future. But seeing as 85% of the teams in Max's tourney never even said anything, I think I'm doing at least slightly better. Well good luck to all of you guys.....just getting all the way through the challenges in Custom is half the battle....at least we know who can hang now :]

-Black Rayquaza
 
RE: Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament BY INVITATION ONLY!

Will anyone be eliminated this round?

Sorry I know I'm not in the contest. I just wanted to know.
 
RE: Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament BY INVITATION ONLY!

PIPLUP said:
Will anyone be eliminated this round?

Sorry I know I'm not in the contest. I just wanted to know.

dont worry about it.....anyone can post in here :] Well, as long as it relates to Project Custom. I really dont think so. I need to get 1 more Challenge off for sure.....and then its off to The Finals. Hopefully no more dropouts! If My 2nd to Last challenge is ruined, Im gonna cry....I've planned this one from the start :)

-Black Rayquaza
 
RE: Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament BY INVITATION ONLY!

I'm gonna throw in my two cents here on how the atmoshere (sp?) of Project Custom has been...

For one, I agree with Pika2 to an extent. I think he exaggurated the whole rudeness thing a bit, but he is right about one thing... BR, no offense, but you need to know how to handle certain situations better and look from others' point of view if you are to host a contest/competition of any kind. I've noticed that about half the time someone asks you something, you get bent out of shape and say things you probably don't mean, such as with our own incident. I also don't believe 7Lucario7Master7 did anything wrong that allowed you to accuse him for "spamming." It shouldn't really suprise you, seeing as there's a good number of active members/judges in this contest with my Project Custom banner linked to this thread. With how many awesome works in this thread have been created, with the banner attracting other viewers, it's only natural that new artists are going to ask questions that many of us already know the answer to and are not going to search 75+ pages of posts just to find the answer to their question. There's a great deal of talent in many competitors that have entered this contest, and new artists are going to want answers/suggestions from such people so they can start their own art-spree. As far as I can see, 7Lucario7Master7 is clear of any wrong-doing. He asked a question that many of us knows the answer to, but that doesn't make his question spam. It was art related, and art is the name of the game here, so it was not off-topic. It might have been different if the answer to his question was in the post directly before his, but that was not the case. If I was a newbie artist, I bet you that I would've done the same thing as 7Lucario7Master7 did.

Time was a big issue in this contest. We shouldn't be having to rush ourselves to complete our works just because some people finish their works faster than others. I personally think that the time-span given in the first round should've sufficed decently for all challanges except fanfics (those should be given 2 weeks, IMO). It didn't rush us, but it also wasn't too long as to make the contest take a year or so. Some challanges that required a great deal of brainstorming, such as the Avante-Garde (if that's how it's spelled) challange, may have been simple for some, but for others, such as myself, it's a difficult task to think way outside the norm like that. Luckily, time extensions were granted to avoid a mass elimination situation, but in other cases like the spy-themed avatars, where origionality can be an issue since there's not a whole lot that is completely origional, more than just 3-4 days would've been nice. The extra time left over from the work time, if any remains, can be used to make corrections in response to recieved feedback, something that many serious and new artists will much appriciate (like me, again).

Overall, the competitive atmoshere itself was exciting and pushed every participant to do their best... couldn't be any better, but the general lack of time in combination the constant arrival of tiny issues here and there that could've been easily avoided is what has dulled Project Custom's comfort level, IMO. Simple, easy question were often bashed, discouraging new artists and sometimes "de-moralizing" someone even if it wasn't intended. Rushing is something that no artist should be forced to do, as being rushed means that the artist may and probably will miss simple problems in his/her piece that could ultimately ruin it. The timing for this contest didn't help things, either. Being held at the mid-beginning of the spring semester of school, or just anytime during school, is bad thinking on the part of the organizer, no offense. The comfort atmoshpere didn't seem comforting at all. I only stayed in as long as I did before dropping because for one, it was a new thing for me and judging from others' reactions, I have an extrodinary talent that I've only begun tapping into. Being one of the few things that I have an awesome and highly potent ability in, I wanted to see where I stood, as well as learn the principles of design that I could use to further my goal of improving this talent. It was too bad that time issues ended up claiming me. I personally might have been able to live the the rough comments torwards others here and there, but there are those that are very sensitive and will not stick around watching such drama unfold.

Please keep all of this stuff I've mentioned above in mind when deciding to do a 2nd Project Custom. I would really like to enter it, but I, as well of fellow competitiors and judges, would also like to feel more at home while enjoyong the purpose of the contest: to have fun. I'm not trying to sound rude or say that this contest sucked horribly. As a contestant and likely future contestant, I believe it is my duty to provide feedback over my views of how the contest went, so that the organizer can prepare future competitions to avoid problems that some contestants experienced in this one. Please don't take offense to any of this, as I'm not trying to be offensive in any way, shape, or form. I am merely providing constructive critism.

Anyways, those are my lengthy two cents.
 
RE: Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament BY INVITATION ONLY!

wow so how many people have quit because of all of this?
 
RE: Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament BY INVITATION ONLY!

In my case, it was a time issue. I have too many things going on with college and a full-time job alone.

It may be just the way I'm seeing things, or it may be that I'm the only one seeing these problems. Not that it'll prevent me from entering a future Project Custom, but improvements are always welcomed... or they should be anyhow
 
RE: Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament BY INVITATION ONLY!

Wes1234 said:
I'm gonna throw in my two cents here on how the atmoshere (sp?) of Project Custom has been...

For one, I agree with Pika2 to an extent. I think he exaggurated the whole rudeness thing a bit, but he is right about one thing... BR, no offense, but you need to know how to handle certain situations better and look from others' point of view if you are to host a contest/competition of any kind. I've noticed that about half the time someone asks you something, you get bent out of shape and say things you probably don't mean, such as with our own incident. I also don't believe 7Lucario7Master7 did anything wrong that allowed you to accuse him for "spamming." It shouldn't really suprise you, seeing as there's a good number of active members/judges in this contest with my Project Custom banner linked to this thread. With how many awesome works in this thread have been created, with the banner attracting other viewers, it's only natural that new artists are going to ask questions that many of us already know the answer to and are not going to search 75+ pages of posts just to find the answer to their question. There's a great deal of talent in many competitors that have entered this contest, and new artists are going to want answers/suggestions from such people so they can start their own art-spree. As far as I can see, 7Lucario7Master7 is clear of any wrong-doing. He asked a question that many of us knows the answer to, but that doesn't make his question spam. It was art related, and art is the name of the game here, so it was not off-topic. It might have been different if the answer to his question was in the post directly before his, but that was not the case. If I was a newbie artist, I bet you that I would've done the same thing as 7Lucario7Master7 did.

Time was a big issue in this contest. We shouldn't be having to rush ourselves to complete our works just because some people finish their works faster than others. I personally think that the time-span given in the first round should've sufficed decently for all challanges except fanfics (those should be given 2 weeks, IMO). It didn't rush us, but it also wasn't too long as to make the contest take a year or so. Some challanges that required a great deal of brainstorming, such as the Avante-Garde (if that's how it's spelled) challange, may have been simple for some, but for others, such as myself, it's a difficult task to think way outside the norm like that. Luckily, time extensions were granted to avoid a mass elimination situation, but in other cases like the spy-themed avatars, where origionality can be an issue since there's not a whole lot that is completely origional, more than just 3-4 days would've been nice. The extra time left over from the work time, if any remains, can be used to make corrections in response to recieved feedback, something that many serious and new artists will much appriciate (like me, again).

Overall, the competitive atmoshere itself was exciting and pushed every participant to do their best... couldn't be any better, but the general lack of time in combination the constant arrival of tiny issues here and there that could've been easily avoided is what has dulled Project Custom's comfort level, IMO. Simple, easy question were often bashed, discouraging new artists and sometimes "de-moralizing" someone even if it wasn't intended. Rushing is something that no artist should be forced to do, as being rushed means that the artist may and probably will miss simple problems in his/her piece that could ultimately ruin it. The timing for this contest didn't help things, either. Being held at the mid-beginning of the spring semester of school, or just anytime during school, is bad thinking on the part of the organizer, no offense. The comfort atmoshpere didn't seem comforting at all. I only stayed in as long as I did before dropping because for one, it was a new thing for me and judging from others' reactions, I have an extrodinary talent that I've only begun tapping into. Being one of the few things that I have an awesome and highly potent ability in, I wanted to see where I stood, as well as learn the principles of design that I could use to further my goal of improving this talent. It was too bad that time issues ended up claiming me. I personally might have been able to live the the rough comments torwards others here and there, but there are those that are very sensitive and will not stick around watching such drama unfold.

Please keep all of this stuff I've mentioned above in mind when deciding to do a 2nd Project Custom. I would really like to enter it, but I, as well of fellow competitiors and judges, would also like to feel more at home while enjoyong the purpose of the contest: to have fun. I'm not trying to sound rude or say that this contest sucked horribly. As a contestant and likely future contestant, I believe it is my duty to provide feedback over my views of how the contest went, so that the organizer can prepare future competitions to avoid problems that some contestants experienced in this one. Please don't take offense to any of this, as I'm not trying to be offensive in any way, shape, or form. I am merely providing constructive critism.

Anyways, those are my lengthy two cents.

Well, I apprieate [sp?] your opinion. Most of the things you've said I can wholeheartedly agree with. Let me try to respond to this piece by piece.

About the Pika2/Lucario Master 7^3 Paragraph-I agree with you I havent handled every situwation right.....100%. I believe that overall though, I've lead Project Custom well. Each situwation cannot be handled perfectly, and everyone isnt perfect. I dont know if people think the host of something like this isnt allowed to make mistakes or what.....but remember this is my first time running an Art Tournament, which has been quite an experence for me. Every situwation which I have believed to have handled wrong, I apoligize and try to fix it....is there much else I can do? If anyone goes to a thread and says something off topic it is considered SPAM. Plain and Simple. Im not holding anything against those who or continue to do it, I just ask that it be handled elsewhere. One of my main goals is to keep my threads clean and on-topic to make easier and encourage reading the thread to see what they missed. I've found that many people (even those in Project Custom) dont read the thread enough, espically my posts. People miss alot of the details I put into the challenges and just replys to FAQ. I've just been trying to clear SPAM.....the way I handled it wasnt perfect, I agree, but it was handled and I hope no hard feelings were drawn from this. As for Pika2, I just think thats a bunch of _____.(you can fill that in with any explicitive of your choice....Im not gonna swear for you but you get my point) They way he or she acted in this thread is childish and immature. I've tried to handle it as polite as possible....in fact I've had convos with Two competitiors who completly agree with me on this....when I asked what they would do differently they suggested something alot harsher. Sometimes I just dont know how to handle some situations or some peoples actions.....but at least Im learning from it. As far as this topic....this isnt a general art topic. This is a competition for artists....most basic art should have its own thread.....and we did answer the question. But to be honest, who wants to read through 3 pages of things off-topic. Thats part of the reason people dont read the important stuff.

Moving on.....the time issue. I've been talking about the time issue since Project Custom started. The truth is, you just cant please everyone. If I make them long, the thread will die because its not moving fast enough, and Project Custom will last a year or so, which isnt an option. I've really been trying to look at the average artist and the time It would take for them to make this....anyone who spends over 24 hours on an avatar shouldnt be here. This is for art.....I'd rather have an average avatar done on time then people dropping out. It just ruins the fun....remember only one person gets out per week. If 4 people dont finish, were cutting more losses than we would if everyone just submitted something....then it would just come down to how it was handled and 98% of the time the right people would go home. When people drop out or dont turn something in the whole system FAILS.....then the challenges disappear and the contest gets shorter and shorter. I'd much rather see more art submitted at a slightly lower quality then have 2-3 contestants dropping out every week...and Im fairly sure the fans (if we still have any more....they might have dropped out due to time issues too xD) would agree. In spite of all this, I will be taking into account the time into the next Project Custom. Hopefully I can start it at a time where people have a good 4-5 hours to get something done. As far as the thought process, sometimes you just have to open up the Photoshop or Paint or w/e and just run with it.....ideas will come to you, and if not, then just take a break and think for a minute.

The tiny issues were bound to happen. They are in any contest. Lets look at the example book.
  • Forum Wars-Incomplete or people cant battle on time
  • Max's Contest-3/12 entrys turned in total?
  • INFERNAPES Contest-Didnt finish final round :/

So as you can see, things happen. They always do.....you just gotta take the good with the bad.....and I think alot of people have been focusing on the bad. Epsically the people who have dropped out. Im a positive person....so lets explore my mind here. Did you guys think that this thread has over 11,000 views making it the 4th most viewed thread in the Fan Creations Forum? Or that its the biggest contest ever to hit Pokebeach? Or that the banner has been in over 10 Members Sigs.....havent seen that anywhere else. Seems like I've been the only one mentioning that.....everyones been focused on the negatives. Easy questions have been bashed (allegedly [sp?]) because I've stated them in my previous posts that people cant read for some reason. As far as when it was started, I had the thought and the will-power to set this all up and I took the oppertunity [sp?] and ran with it. I think overall, it didnt go so bad. But I'll be sure to put that into consideration next time. I've got many ideas for Contests and things that I'd like to see happen in the next few years.....this was the Trial :] As far as the atmosphere goes, this isnt the My Little Pony fun land.....this is the Elite Fan Creations Tournament (it is actually in the title for a reason, not just to be touché.) Its actually part of the reason I made it by invite only....you didnt have to join it.....noone did. I'm fairly sure that I mentioned there would be weekly challenges.....Im definately only gonna invite a few people next time around.....I've gotten to see the artists I want to see more of and to be perfectly honest, the ones I dont want to have anything to do with. Again, trial and error....

In conclusion, thanks for the constructive critism Wes......I am trying to learn from it all and try to make it a great contest.....I'm proud to say I've put a ton of effort into this tourney.....and I hope it shows though this. The biggest thing I'd like to remind everyone is that nobodys perfect.....and I really hope you see that before you say some things.....thats all. :]

Thanks,
-Black Rayquaza
 
RE: Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament BY INVITATION ONLY!

I have to agree that this is, compared to many contests on this forum, is far superior. However, it also looks like an ****ing soap opera to the casual passerby. I understand that that isn't all, or even mostly, your fault; but that and your occasionaly hostile attitude is putting a few dents in it's repuation.

If people have given a good reason to make a change, take it into consideration for the next challenge. I hope and believe you're doing this.
 
RE: Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament BY INVITATION ONLY!

I think BR has done good job with Project Custom. I know he has handled some situations kind of poorly, but everyone seems to jump on him whenever he's not "Perfect". He is just like everyone else...He makes mistakes sometimes. But when he makes a mistake it seems everyone gets so mad, and expects him to handle everything perfectly. He is just trying to run a fun contest, and alot of people (Not you Wes) are taking alot of the fun out of it. I'm not saying everyone is, I'm just saying a few people.

Sorry if anyone finds this offensive, I'm just trying to make a point.
 
RE: Project Custom-The Elite Fan Creations Tournament BY INVITATION ONLY!

Thanks INFERNAPE.....I think that some may have read my post but really didnt "read" it. I thought I explained everything as well as I could have.

It isnt a Soap Opera.....people like you are just blowing some things out of proportion thats all lol. :] Jk....but kinda.

I've still only seen 1 piece of art submitted.....I'd like to get back on that track if possible.

-Black Rayquaza
 
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