SSB Brawl Discussion Thread

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Link is cool on a whole different level.

And link doesn't have as many spammy OHKO moves as Ike, like PMJ pointed out.
 
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i think kirby is pretty popular cause there's people who are like "ooo kirby he's sooo cute" and later spam up special and/or down special.

i really like PT because you get to use soo many moves only thing i wish was that to pokemon could battle by them selves rather than switching all the time. squirlte is my fav out of the 3...the other two are equal for me.
 
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popular spammers:

Kirby, jump float float float float stone, up B
Ike, all smashes
Pikachu, all smashes
Sonic, B, taunts from morons who think they're cool wasting out the clock
space animals - lasers
Pit - arrows, side B
anyone with a projectile - said projectile

Pokemon Trainer is really fun, despite Ivysaur's horrendous recovery and Squirtle's tendency to die easily. Ivysaur is my favorite one to play as. I'll always start the match with Charizard (before it was because I needed to practice with him, but I've improved since then) so I can be Squirtle on my second guy and then clean up with Ivysaur. I feel Ivysaur is my best out of the three - I've come back from 1-3 deficits with Ivysaur alone. He's awesome :D

I thought about switching mid-guy so my Pokemon stay refreshed, but becoming tired really hasn't been a problem for me (I once 3-stocked my brother with Charizard alone, lol). I also enjoy playing as Squirtle, so switching to him after two minutes usually means Squirtle has enough damage to get killed from a single smash attack, and that means I get hardly any time to play as him.

c-m, what percentages is the dthrow-uair combo effective, do you know? I haven't really tried it because usually I'll have softened them up with Squirtle so they go too high for me to reach. Then again, you did say it was only good vs noobs, so maybe that's why I haven't had much success with it. ;o
 
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It's not a combo.

1) There are very few combos in brawl because of the oh so very low amount of hitstun
2) d-throw sends too far away to be efficient
3) It can obviously be airdodged, as hitstun is always way lower than uair's start-up lag
4) It's just for fun
 
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Hey all.

Do any of you guys know of guides for competitive Brawling? I keep thinking there is more to Brawl than just hitting opponents...

Another question: Do people play with Tiers? IIRC no Brawl Character are banned from play...

I just wanna know what it takes to be a good Brawler, cause I suck at it :p
 
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This is probably the biggest competitive smash forums: http://smashboards.com/
... Don't expect to go around posting there without being bashed into infinity, though.
Just read stuff, it'll help.

There is more to Brawl, and there was even more to melee (one of the most competitive games in the world, big-money tourneys and everything). Brawl's not that hard to learn, though (unlike melee), so yeah.

Tiers:
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=192028 (nothing is banned)
Competitive rulings:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5097738#post5097738
 
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First question: Smashboards is the number one place to go to learn about competitive brawling. They have all the information you'll ever need; each character has their own separate forum. Check out your main's forum for all strategies pertaining to that character. It's really good stuff. Alternatively, you could ask me or c-m; we're pretty knowledgeable ourselves.

Second question: No. Anything goes, unfortunately.

Just learn everything there is to know about your main character - strengths, weaknesses, strategies... everything. Then fight me and give me a good battle :D
 
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Pimpwalkin said:
Then fight me and give me a good battle :D
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Lol, who are you, Meta Knight?

j/k

Thanks for the links (though they are the same :p), guys.

Another one: Are there a list of terms involving Brawling? Like in Pokemon there are Tanks, Walls, Sweepers; I'm sure Brawl has some (like Edge guarding and Meteor Smash). I've checked this site and it taught me some stuff...

I've been thinking of trying to specialise in 2-3 different characters and know all about their pros and cons. Are there any good characters (preferably not in the top tier) that have balanced Attacks (Ranged and Close Combat), Jump (at least a decent B-Up) Speed (not as slow as Ganondorf, he's a snail)? I've been thinking of using Pit and Pokemon Trainer, and Luigi and Toon Link interest me.

Any table with all the characters and how they're ranked (based on Attacks, Speed, Recovery, etc). I used to love using MK because he can Fly, Attacks and moves pretty fast, but seeing him in the top tier makes me reluctant.
 
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Smashwiki is made by Smashboards, so yeah.

Well, the differences like "wall" and "tank" and whatever are there, but in the playstyle. Like, for example, camping is the act of avoiding your opponent and damaging with projectiles/far-ranged stuff/shieldgrabs. This is a way of playing, but still, it's beyond obvious that Falco or Toon Link are WAY better campers than, say, Ganon and Jiggly. But, well, usually mixing up your playstyle is better than sticking to 1 strategy, you're not limited to 4 moves like in Pokémon.

Pit is easy to learn, hard to master, and sucky even if you do.
PT is very advanced and not really a successful character, as there might be 3 characters, but none of them are that good.
Luigi is Green.
TL has problems killing, and camping isn't that effective, which only makes him even weaker. He's not bad, he's just not good either.
 
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Who thinks Wolf is a good battler? I tend to think he's quick and his moves are pretty powerful, but yet again, I'm not exactly sure if he can hold up a good match. What does everybody else think? :)
 
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His moves don't really complement eachother. He's not that fast, not too slow either, his blaster's range's too short, but does decent damage, his recovery is pretty bad, but he has good weight. I'd say he's pretty average.

If Powerful moves would matter that much, MK would be worse than Ike...
 
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Yeah. It isn't really like Pokemon where moves are based on damage. You just have to use combos to defeat your opponent. Moves that punch repeatedly such as Kirby's rapid punching seems to be helpful when I battle slower foes and they can't escape if they're in a corner. :)
 
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I understand that there are no fixed strategies, but surely there is some sort of strategies, right? Like when I use MK, I usually start spamming his Bside and Aside to rack up damage, then go for the kill.

Another question: Does Toon Link (or Link) get injured by their own bombs, and if they hold their bombs too long, would it blow up? I know Samus doesn't get hurt by her own bomb, but Lucas/Ness get injured by their PK Thunder.
 
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Absol said:
I understand that there are no fixed strategies, but surely there is some sort of strategies, right? Like when I use MK, I usually start spamming his Bside and Aside to rack up damage, then go for the kill.

Another question: Does Toon Link (or Link) get injured by their own bombs, and if they hold their bombs too long, would it blow up? I know Samus doesn't get hurt by her own bomb, but Lucas/Ness get injured by their PK Thunder.
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Linik does, so does toon link. Ness and lucas do not, it just makes them go flying.
 
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A good rule of thumb when using MK is to not ever use his side B. It sucks. Really, MK's moves are so great you don't really need to spam anything; rack up some damage, then use your down smash or up B to get a KO. Don't spam them early on, though, because then you'll weaken the moves.
 
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Pimpwalkin said:
A good rule of thumb when using MK is to not ever use his side B. It sucks. Really, MK's moves are so great you don't really need to spam anything; rack up some damage, then use your down smash or up B to get a KO. Don't spam them early on, though, because then you'll weaken the moves.
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I normally use side A, side Smash, Up A of N Aerial to weaken the opponents. Side A and Side Smash help to KO opponents.

I thought of using Lucario for Brawls, but the prospect of High Risk High Return upsets me. I am not one who often use Shield or Dodge, and I am more of the Go for the Kill guy. I know that user of Lucario must stay calm (especially his Up B, where making a mistake could kill you). Are Luke's moves powerful?

EDIT: After a hours of reading guide and Brawling, I've decided to use Lucario as my main character and TL/MK as my secondary character. I like the way Luke is Balanced, being both ranged and Melee. Luke is also fast, and when I'm getting pwned, his attacks are more powerful. His jumps are okay, Extremespeed is not a bad recovery, Dair and Bside are powerful smashes. Besides, no are is stupid enough to juggle Lucario.

Everyone knows MK pwns (plus he's cool :p), and Toon Link is a real mind-twister, he is unexpected and unpredictable (with an awesome Dair).

Hope someday someone would have time to Brawl with me :) Of course, that would be 2 weeks time, next week is my exams and the week after is time for me to brush up on my Brawl :)
 
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Lucario's moves aren't powerful at all at low damage. He can actually get something resembling a combo going at low damage, too. Once he gets up there, his attacks get a lot stronger and the knockback is better.

His dair is one of his best attacks; it stops your vertical movement, it's strong, and has a good hitbox. It's also a good killing move.

Also, dair and side B are not smash attacks. ;o
 
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Pimpwalkin said:
Lucario's moves aren't powerful at all at low damage. He can actually get something resembling a combo going at low damage, too. Once he gets up there, his attacks get a lot stronger and the knockback is better.

His dair is one of his best attacks; it stops your vertical movement, it's strong, and has a good hitbox. It's also a good killing move.

Also, dair and side B are not smash attacks. ;o
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Lol, I know, but I called them that because of their high knockback.

EDIT: What is the move that cause the highest knockback? Is there a list f moves that are arranged based on knocoback (and damage)?
 
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Does it matter? More knock-back usually means either less range (Rest) or more lag (Warlock Punch). You're usually way better off using high-speed average-knockback moves.
 
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Heavenly Spoon :F said:
Does it matter? More knock-back usually means either less range (Rest) or more lag (Warlock Punch). You're usually way better off using high-speed average-knockback moves.
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Lol, I was just wondering. I know that high knockback moves have low range or major lag.

Of course, one good thing about Brawl is if you don't play it, you won't know it. In Pokemon, everything is fixed (EVs, damage, etc); in Brawl, the best thing to do is just enjoy yourself.

What moves are one of the best KO moves? For example, Pika's Side Smash is fast and has okay range, while Snake's Up Smash is a OHKO at >50%... IIRC :)
 
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