Cinema said:
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Archeops said:
The problem with Zekeels is they can't OHKO any EXs and they get dead draws way to much.
I had a feeling CTM would win the ECC. Also I keep hearing that ZekEel is more consistent and faster than EelZone although I think EelZone still has the edge it depends on the matchup really.
T-Peezy said:
Then, they OHKO the EX back to take 2 easy prizes.
Magneels is just harder to get setup than ZekEel. It feels soooooooooo much better to be able to Collector for three Tynamos than two Magnemite and a Tynamo. In a format where almost every deck can kill Tynamo T1 (T2 at latest) if it wants to, Magneels is a risky play. It's still very good, but it feels slightly inferior to ZekEel.
Celebi23 said:
I like to apply my regionals strategy to Magneels. I run 2 Level Balls, 3 Communications, 2 Pichu, and no Collector. It is really fast and gets set up every game.
How does that work, though? You theoretically need to have three Magnemites and three Tynamos to ensure the next turn you get two Magnezone and two Eelektrik. You don't get six bench spots. Plus having to throw a free prize in the active slot feels terrible in a format where every prize counts more than it should. Furthermore, this takes away the option to damage the opponent early-game, and Pichu is often very helpful to the opponent.
Celebi23 said:
Why do you need 2 of each next turn? My list can run easily with 2 of one and 1 of the other. You can also set up others later game. I also run a seeker to pick up Pichu, but even if that doesn't work they usually go for more important KOs on Zones and Eels.
ZekEels is faster and more consistent than MagnEels. ZekEels doesn't lose its energies like MagnEels does. ZekEels has an incredible early game, and a so so late game, and MagnEels has a pretty good early and late game. ZekEels hits quicker and can easily use both Zekrom BW and Zekrom EX, both giving more damage options. Also, i think MagnEels decks a little more than ZekEels. .-.
Rougechomp said:
Why can't Magneels use both Zekroms?
I never said they couldn't, I just think ZekEels need them more.
Actually, most magneel decks are running 2-3 DCE, because they usually run 1 of mewtwo EX, zekrom EX, and zekrom as their main attacker. DCE can also get an eelektrik out of the active spot if you don't have a switch.Cinema said:
On a side note, does someone have the tested matchups for these decks against each other?
-MTC
-Zekeels
-Durant
-Magneels
Thanks!
Celebi23 said:
Thanks, that really helps my decision for states. I think I'm going to go with Magneels or Magnephlosion, simply because Magnezone provides great drawpower and can easily ko any EX. However, I am thinking of a truth build with 2-2 donphan prime to counter all the {L} decks out there, and a reshiboar (maybe) with 2-2 RDL.
