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RE: Team Transform- State Championships in less than 3 weeks! Get Prepared for your metagame!

P3 the list you are speaking of is out dated..honestly the only form of kingdra that wins anymore is..
4-3-4 kingdra
2 crobat
2-2 clyadol
2 uxie
1 unown G(option)

that is bout it. faster then the old lists of kingdra : / and you only run 6 energy all water..it is epic and you should test it if you haven't played it before.
 
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Frozendukie said:
P3 the list you are speaking of is out dated..honestly the only form of kingdra that wins anymore is..
4-3-4 kingdra
2 crobat
2-2 clyadol
2 uxie
1 unown G(option)

that is bout it. faster then the old lists of kingdra : / and you only run 6 energy all water..it is epic and you should test it if you haven't played it before.
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Only 6 water? I strongly disagree. A y kingdra decks in my area run 8 at the least. A d I don't see claudols in that list. Itnwill be a very sad match when you go to Set Up for 7, and they Power Spray. :/
 
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um there is a 2-2 claydol in there?
I usually would run kingdra w/ 10 just to get more potential KO's(100+1 crobat g =alot of Ko's on things compared to 6)
IDK I've never liked Kingdra that much.
 
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I never have an issue with power spray the trainer line plays atleast 3 powers a turn lol..
 
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But why wouln't you run more you could have the random time where you can't get the energies or get powerlocked. Or prize them.
 
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CFOURCOLTSFAN said:
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um there is a 2-2 claydol in there?
I usually would run kingdra w/ 10 just to get more potential KO's(100+1 crobat g =alot of Ko's on things compared to 6)
IDK I've never liked Kingdra that much.
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Oh... wow... that was my bad. Sorry 'bout that rock wrecker. :\
Just disregard my whole message then. :p
I might play 1 Regice, in case your opponents play Mr. Mime MT, and there's 2 free {W} in the discard for you. The extra slot of 1 Pokémon doesn't really take up that much room either.

@Arcanine King: 10 energies is actually about average in a Kingdra deck. now I played about 12 in mine, but did mine ever win anything? No it didn't. :p I think 10 is about good, with PlusPowers, Expert Belts, and Crobat G's.
 
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I'm sorry but my arguement is just that the little energy and extremely fast varient played by a totally bad player in masters has taken first or second at almost every tournament from the last 15 like cities battle roads and such, but the regice is totally worth testing easy knocks ftw.
 
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The Power of Three said:
Oh... wow... that was my bad. Sorry 'bout that rock wrecker. :\
Just disregard my whole message then. :p
I might play 1 Regice, in case your opponents play Mr. Mime MT, and there's 2 free {W} in the discard for you. The extra slot of 1 Pokémon doesn't really take up that much room either.

@Arcanine King: 10 energies is actually about average in a Kingdra deck. now I played about 12 in mine, but did mine ever win anything? No it didn't. :p I think 10 is about good, with PlusPowers, Expert Belts, and Crobat G's.
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I know thats how much I would run if I built Kingdra but I can't because I have none.
 
RE: Team Transform- State Championships in less than 3 weeks! Get Prepared for your metagame!

How do you guys think a Dusknoir deck would do? Here's a few props/slops
Props:
Night Spin shuts down JUmpluff and Gyarados
Damage Even is pretty nasty if played right
Ability to take out bench techs
extra draw power
only requires 2 energies to snipe
Free Retreat off Moonlight

Slops:
Night Spin doesn't do much against decks like Luxray
Unown G prevents easy snipes
 
RE: Team Transform- State Championships in less than 3 weeks! Get Prepared for your metagame!

My bud just built this for semi-competetive weekly tournaments at the local shop, and it works great. The lux match-up does kind of suck tho, as it distrupts the slower set up. It does well against flygon varients for obvoius reasons.
 
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He is playing it for states Lukas, so it isn't "semi-competitive" anymore, its the real deal. Lol. Dusk is godly. 2 SF, 1 Promo, 1 DP make it uber. No X. Nidoqueen also. Shadow Command makes Damage Even an uber attack, allowing you to easily snipe Claydols, and Uxies. Night Spin makes the SP match up fantastic, because now E-Gain is basically worthless, your gonna have to attach a new energy anyways. DP Dusk works so well, bouncing like it normally does, but also it has a side purpose, to draw fire away from the normal ones I guess. Someone could see Dusk DP and realize how bad of a threat it can be, so it works in two ways. Its a great deck. I played against it, but came out on top, without much difficulty. However, I didn't beat him. I only won because he misplayed and yada yada. The person who built it NEVER admits I fair and square beat him, its always some reason or something. Lol. However, he DID make a misplay that cost him the game:

Folks, whenever you have a Spiritomb on the field, and your playing a Flygon, you better watch out. Especially when it hits mid game. Because if somehow that thing gets active, Flygon lock wins. Auto Win. Why? Flygon will do 0 damage to it from Sand Tomb because it has -20 colorless resistance, and because neither player can play trainers, its stuck in the active. And thus the deck out begins. Lol.
 
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It doesn't begin it never stops xD, but good for him and i like dmg even on a agro level too haha. it destroys everything.
 
RE: Team Transform- State Championships in less than 3 weeks! Get Prepared for your metagame!

I'll say now that Dusknoir doesn't need the Level X, just 3SF HOolo and and 1DP.
 
RE: Team Transform- State Championships in less than 3 weeks! Get Prepared for your metagame!

TP03 is running 2 shadow command and 1 DP+lv.X. I don't know how but his deck is spreading like crazy.
 
RE: Team Transform- State Championships in less than 3 weeks! Get Prepared for your metagame!

Wouldn't the lx
v. X be a help to the deck, by helping spread? Or do you guys not think so? (in which case I will get a promonoir)
 
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I don't think you need spread that much. You are playing a more sniping kind of deck rather than a spread deck. Things nidoqueen ruin spread anyway.
 
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Yeah... I'll try it w/o the Lv. X. I guess I'll have to proxy a PromoNoir for now, but try to get my hands on one.
 
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That is kind of hard because no one has the promonoir anymore.
 
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Thats not true, I have like 3 haha. They still sell it at like Best Buy.
 
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Could someone please gonto he Fix my Deck area and fix up my dusknoir deck, Thanks.

If dusknoir is a bust, I could always run shuppet donk. I don't know what a good list looks like though...
 
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