Considering the fact that the ships came from a Turkish terrorist group and an organization called 'Free Gaza', I don't think they were aid ships, therefore I feel Israel was fully in their rights. Also both Israel and Egypt offered to dock the ships and inspect them, so there must have been something in the ships that they didnt want seen.
The Big Questions - Isreal stopping Gaza aid ships and killing 9 people in the process. Panelists on
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No, they do that with all aid ships. (The last was an Irish one).
RE: The Big Questions - Isreal stopping Gaza aid ships and killing 9 people in the pr
Except the Jews.
I said nothing about killing Palestinians. None of those articles said anything about killing Palestinians.
That's what happens when you bite the hand that feeds you every time it feeds you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Intifada
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Intifada
Palestinian Rocket Attacks on Israel
Yep, and they make matzah with their blood too.
Then maybe the Palestinians shouldn't have gone intifada'ing and preaching the destruction of Israel and death to the Jews, hm?
Because the Palestinians would rather have the Syrians oppressing them. Or, the Jordanians, or the Egyptians, or any of the other Araba nations that don't give two cares about the "Palestinians" and their "sovereignty". The moment Israel ever "pulls out" (which it never will, so the Palestinians better rethink their strategy), you can bet that all of those other Arab countries that say they support the Palestinians, that "believe" in their cause, would have tanks crossing the border in days. Then they would fighting with each other over who gets the spoils.
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Whose fault is it in the first place that the Palestinians have to struggle for sovereignty at all? Their leadership and all of the butt hurt Palestinians that bawl, whine, complain, blow themselves up, and demand for their own state. You know what, Kashmaster? There wouldn't be a blockade of Gaza if the Palestinians would just realize that, "hey, if we cooperated with the Israelis, or at a minimum just tolerated them, we'd have it pretty good! We'd be members of a technologically progressive country with a pretty good economy and competent military. We'd be able to trade freely with them and move around freely without restrictions like we have now! Sure, we would have our religious differences, but as long as we don't stir up any trouble, such as behaving belligerently towards the state that accommodates us, or give the Israelis a legitimate reason to limit our freedoms in general, we should be a-okay."
What could the Palestinians possibly have to lose (by cooperating with the Israelis) that is so vital and so much more important than living peacefully and prosperously with them?
There's a village up at the North Eastern tip of the Golan heights. It's an Arab village and they're Muslims. But they love Israel; there are Israeli flags flying around all over. Why? Because the area that these people presently inhabit used to be under the control of Syria and the Syrians had been abusing them until the Israelis came along took the Golan heights from Syria. These people have absolutely no qualms with the Israelis or the Jews (if they do, they don't make it known like the Palestinians and the neighboring Arab nations [notice that I respect the sovereignty of those countries]). And guess what? They don't have any of the problems that the Palestinians living in Gaza, the ones who demanded that land, who curse, who condemn, who terrorize, and who spew bogus, hyperbolic, fallacious rhetoric about the Arab-Israeli conflict (just like you are Kashmaster) because... For God only knows why.
It absolutely is the Palestinians fault for picking a fight with the Israelis when they legitimately lost the land to armed conflict in 1948 and further in 1967. And it absolutely is the Palestinians fault for refusing to at a minimum tolerate Israel. Imagine how much suffering, on both sides, especially the Palestinians, that would end and would prevented.
kashmaster said:
kashmaster said:
Except the Jews.
kashmaster said:
I said nothing about killing Palestinians. None of those articles said anything about killing Palestinians.
kashmaster said:
That's what happens when you bite the hand that feeds you every time it feeds you.
kashmaster said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Intifada
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Intifada
Palestinian Rocket Attacks on Israel
kashmaster said:
Yep, and they make matzah with their blood too.
kashmaster said:
Then maybe the Palestinians shouldn't have gone intifada'ing and preaching the destruction of Israel and death to the Jews, hm?
kashmaster said:
Because the Palestinians would rather have the Syrians oppressing them. Or, the Jordanians, or the Egyptians, or any of the other Araba nations that don't give two cares about the "Palestinians" and their "sovereignty". The moment Israel ever "pulls out" (which it never will, so the Palestinians better rethink their strategy), you can bet that all of those other Arab countries that say they support the Palestinians, that "believe" in their cause, would have tanks crossing the border in days. Then they would fighting with each other over who gets the spoils.
_______________________
Whose fault is it in the first place that the Palestinians have to struggle for sovereignty at all? Their leadership and all of the butt hurt Palestinians that bawl, whine, complain, blow themselves up, and demand for their own state. You know what, Kashmaster? There wouldn't be a blockade of Gaza if the Palestinians would just realize that, "hey, if we cooperated with the Israelis, or at a minimum just tolerated them, we'd have it pretty good! We'd be members of a technologically progressive country with a pretty good economy and competent military. We'd be able to trade freely with them and move around freely without restrictions like we have now! Sure, we would have our religious differences, but as long as we don't stir up any trouble, such as behaving belligerently towards the state that accommodates us, or give the Israelis a legitimate reason to limit our freedoms in general, we should be a-okay."
What could the Palestinians possibly have to lose (by cooperating with the Israelis) that is so vital and so much more important than living peacefully and prosperously with them?
There's a village up at the North Eastern tip of the Golan heights. It's an Arab village and they're Muslims. But they love Israel; there are Israeli flags flying around all over. Why? Because the area that these people presently inhabit used to be under the control of Syria and the Syrians had been abusing them until the Israelis came along took the Golan heights from Syria. These people have absolutely no qualms with the Israelis or the Jews (if they do, they don't make it known like the Palestinians and the neighboring Arab nations [notice that I respect the sovereignty of those countries]). And guess what? They don't have any of the problems that the Palestinians living in Gaza, the ones who demanded that land, who curse, who condemn, who terrorize, and who spew bogus, hyperbolic, fallacious rhetoric about the Arab-Israeli conflict (just like you are Kashmaster) because... For God only knows why.
It absolutely is the Palestinians fault for picking a fight with the Israelis when they legitimately lost the land to armed conflict in 1948 and further in 1967. And it absolutely is the Palestinians fault for refusing to at a minimum tolerate Israel. Imagine how much suffering, on both sides, especially the Palestinians, that would end and would prevented.
A lot of Palestinians were killed, and I don't think that they would agree that their land was "legitimately" obtained. The Palestinians aren't just going to forget and forgive. And I can't blame them for that.
I think both sides should be willing to make big compromises if they truly wish to resolve this conflict. And I don't believe that either side is willing to do this. Which will only result in more deaths and more suffering for both sides.
I think both sides should be willing to make big compromises if they truly wish to resolve this conflict. And I don't believe that either side is willing to do this. Which will only result in more deaths and more suffering for both sides.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
I cant really tell you if this information is true, but it seems pretty legit...
I know for a fact that a lot of children have been killed and I dont see that justified by both parties. Im not going to sugar coat it, Israel have caused more deaths to innocent people.
I cant really tell you if this information is true, but it seems pretty legit...
I know for a fact that a lot of children have been killed and I dont see that justified by both parties. Im not going to sugar coat it, Israel have caused more deaths to innocent people.
It is fact that the death ratio of Palestinians to Israelis is 3:1. Not taking sides, just want to point that out to anyone who's planning on saying that Palestinians kill more people. For the conflict as a whole, I think that first things first, the Israeli Settlements need to go, because they cause violence (not that the settlers themselves cause violence, but most of the violence itself happens due to the settlements, trying to stay impartial here). As for the boat, I think that Israel acted a little rashly, but they have every right to be careful.