I am gonna HATE the fighting hype. I've had Yveltal/Raichu constructed for just around a month now and will then have to change probably once Furious Fists comes out.
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Camoclone said:
Pssh your welcome. But seriously for once I actually agree with you, as terrible as the deck initially sounds.
I'm also going to test Donphan / Flygon / Dusknoir. It might be a bit clunky with beach gone though.
Here is a sample untested list:
Pokémon: 19
Trainers: 36
Energy: 5
Here is a sample untested list:
Pokémon: 19
4 Trapinch
2 Vibrave
3 Flygon
3 Phanpy
2 Donphan
2 Duskull
1 Dusklops
2 Dusknoir
Trainers: 36
4 Professor Juniper
4 N
1 Skyla
4 Random Receiver
4 Roller Skates
1 Bicycle
2 Muscle Band
1 Silver Bangle
4 Float Stone
4 Ultra Ball
3 Rare Candy
1 Startling Megaphone
2 Fighting Stadium
1 Dowsing Machine
Energy: 5
4 Strong
1 Fighting
Maybe not... you could incorporate Shadow Circle to help.LoneWolf2113 said:
Dark will still be a good deck but it does lose dark patch and sableye, But yveltal is good at psudoenergy accleration and gets damage at the same time.
I agree it wont be the dark we have seen in the past but it still has potential.
Ironman131 said:
What potential? Every attacker takes at least two energy ATTACHEMENTS (big difference than just Energy) to attack and you need a lot more to do actual good damage. And you can't stream attackers. That was the whole point of dark decks and they lost it all. You have no big acceleration when evrything else in format does. You have no prize trade advantage as that is the only thing that keeps other decks a float. You can't even heal. The minute they take out your only attacker how do they respond? Usually you'd power up another attacker, but you can't do that anymore. If you honestly think dark type variants will be any good, it would have to revolve around a different pokemon.
You'd have to run Thundurus/Plasma Badge I guess
It won't be doing much in tournaments, but people won't move on because they've played the deck for three years and they figure "It was good then ---- it'll be just as good now."
No Patch. No Attackers
No attackers. No engine.
No engine. No deck
And now the prevelance of Pyroar is even bigger, and not even Garbodor can get the job done now.
When yveltal EX is your main attacker you can set it up in 2 turns just as long as it takes now. You will just have to manually attach to the benched yveltal ex, there are not many pokemon that can one shot an Yveltal EX and with fightings types being powerful less people will play lightning types.
Right now it takes one turn. Dark lost what made it a good deck. Denying that is silly. Yveltal on the other hand is still one of the best (if not the best) attacker in the format. But like I've said before it really doesn't belong in a straight dark deck after the rotation. It's time to move on. Manually attaching to Yveltal just won't cut it.Ironman131 said:
I already agreed with you about dark patch and proved why the deck will still be competitve. Hell a deck that had no energy accelartion at all just won the national tournamnet and I'm sure lands judgment was used a few times, that takes even longer to power up than an yveltal EX. I merely said that dark decks will still be competitve.
Ironman131 said:
Comparing Yveltal to Raichu / Landorous EX / Mewtwo / Garb just doesn't work. The decks have different strategies. Not to mention all the Pokemon cards in Raichu / Landorous / Mewtwo / Garb can be powered up in one turn (bar Garb). I don't think that Dark will be competitive post rotation. People will try to make it work for sure but in reality it is outclassed.
Ironman131 said:
The difference with the Landorus/Mewtwo/Raichu/Garbodor deck is that they take a single Energy card to attack. Hammerhead requires [F] and both X-Ball and Circle Circuit need [C][C], so their attacks are easier to power up in one turn. In Yveltal's case after Rotation, the only way you can power up an Yveltal would be Ether, because it requires [D][C]... e.e Unless we see something like Double Rainbow Energy applying to Basics, Yveltal will undoubtedly need 2 attachments. If you're playing Dark.dec after September, you'll have a hard time attacking quickly, specially if you go second.
There is no way to power up an active yveltal ex in one turn right now anyways. So it will take just as long to power up.
. Let's get back on topic (The Next Rotation). Off topic posts will be removed. This means please stop talking about Yveltal in the current format.Fighting decks are going to get even more powerful. I am also thinking of paring Seismatoed EX with dark energy and shadow circle to ease the match up with virizion genesect.
Ironman131 said:
I actually think that a Seismitoad/Garbodor deck with heavy Hammer counts can be very