The Next Rotation

RE: BW- On Format Discussion

I'm not so sure about that. To me, it seems like they are saying on Day 2 you play in Extended, meaning not only top cut, but any Swiss rounds that happen to be on Day 2. Maybe they didn't intend to mean day 2 Swiss rounds and just top cut, but wither way it seems pretty clear that Extended is part of the main event.
 
It's interesting that Tropical Beach has been rotated out. This will affect Stage 2 decks a lot.

Also no more Rayquaza EX in modified. See you in BW-On, Rayquaza!
 
So what decks do you think will be prevelant in both formats. I for one am playing Meweels in BW-on.
 
I'm really glad that it's BCR-On, because without Skyla the game could become a lot more random. And man, that was quick. I didn't expect them to announce the rotation so soon.
 
RE: BW- On Format Discussion

Having extended part of the main tournament is stupid in my opinion. It gives players the opportunity to change their deck completely for day 2. It would be more beneficial if we were allowed to have like a 10-15 card side board of standard cards and change the deck around between swiss matches instead of possibly changing the deck your playing completely for day 2.
 
Do you think next format is going to be either play fighting type, or counter it? I have a feeling the early tournaments will come down to that. Maybe the next set will give us a card that resists fighting and does great damage. I think lock decks will come back. Gothitelle is a stage 2 without beach, but Trevenant is stage 1 with bad damage. Garbodor will see a lot of play to combat lock decks(While being one).

Blastoise/Keldeo/Seismitoad could see some play. It just stalls early game to set up, and locks them out of there set up.
 
Mr.Muffin said:
Do you think next format is going to be either play fighting type, or counter it? I have a feeling the early tournaments will come down to that. Maybe the next set will give us a card that resists fighting and does great damage.
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Considering that the next set "Phantom Gate" will most likely be based off Ghost types (ie Phantom), we could see a lot of Psychic type cards that resist Fighting types while also being SE against them. There may even be a ghost Pokemon that has an ability that makes it unable to be damaged by Fighting types and Colorless types.
 
2015 Season Card Sets Rotation - What Will You Miss?

The 2015 season card sets rotation has been announced: http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/play-pokemon-2015-season-format-rotation/

What cards will you miss most and what potential impact might those rotated cards have on the current game format?

With the announcement of next season's card set rotation, there are some cards that I will miss (IMO current game format "impact" from */low to ***/high):

  • Blend energy (GRPD) and
  • Blend energy (WLFM). Each set provided the necessary "fuel" to power-up certain combinations of Poké. Very useful in certain decks. Impact: **
  • Bouffalant (Bouffer). This particular Poké was quite versatile in that it had only a Colorless energy attack, its Ability reduces damage from an attacking Poké; and it could inflict either 60 or 120 damage depending upon if the defending Poké was a non-EX or EX type. Used in a variety of decks. Impact: *
  • Dark Patch. A staple in most Dark Poké decks since it provided some energy attachment acceleration and was a Junk Hunt'able. Impact: ***
  • Enhanced Hammer. An Item that required no-flipping and was a sure way to remove opponent's attached Special energy. Used mostly as a tech in some decks. Impact: *
  • Level Ball. This particular Item was used to search for needed Poké (with <=90 HP) and a key staple in setup decks. Impact: **
  • Prism energy. A Special energy that supplied every energy type when attached to a basic Poké. Very, very useful in certain decks. Impact: **
  • Rayquaza EX. A once very popular Poké that was an integral component of a top tier deck for a period of time. Will probably re-surface again in the extended play game format. Impact: *
  • Sableye. The "Mr. Spock" (beside "Captain Kirk") of many Dark type decks. This was, IMO, a HUGE contributor to the success of those decks. Will definitely miss this Poké. Impact: ***
  • Skyarrow Bridge. A Stadium that reduced the retreat cost of Basic Poke; useful in certain decks. Impact: *
  • Super Rod. A great Item that allowed a player to recover and recycle Poké and Basic energy back into one's deck. Impact: *
Given these particular changes, it will be interesting to see how the game might change. For example, will we start to see more Stage 2 decks being played?
 
RE: 2015 Season Card Sets Rotation - What Will You Miss?

Super Rod, Level Ball, Gabite, Foul Play Zoroark, Drifblim, Reuniclus and Ho-Oh EX are probably the only cards I will miss greatly. (Though certain aspects of the game that Super Rod facilitated I am fine with going.) Kinda Giratina EX also.

I am GLAD Sableye, Dark Patch and Accelgor are going. Dark Explorers as a whole in all honesty. Also glad Prism Energy is going.

There's a few minor bits and pieces like Zebstrika, Sneasel (I feel the Corner one was actually pretty useful), Aerodactyl, Archeops, Gardevoir, Milotic, Shedinja, Heavy Ball, and Random Receiver I'll kinda miss, but I'll get over it.
 
RE: 2015 Season Card Sets Rotation - What Will You Miss?

Yeah, Sableye, Dark Patch and Accelgo are the main cards that I won't miss from Dark Explorers.

@RiverShock; Random Receiver will still be legal because of its secret rare print in Plasma Storm. c:

As for stuff I will miss, mainly Rayquaza EX. v.v
 
RE: 2015 Season Card Sets Rotation - What Will You Miss?

Probably Prism energy.
 
RE: 2015 Season Card Sets Rotation - What Will You Miss?

I WILL NOT be missing things like Enhanced Hammer, Sableye, and Dark Patch. But hey, I'll still have to deal with them in extended.

Rainbow Energy replaces the Blends and Prism (except for in Fairy Box where they need Prism and Rainbow). Evosoda sort of replaces Level Ball. Some decks benefit from it less than Level Ball, some benefit from it more. Should be fine overall. Float Stone is better than Skyarrow, except for the fact that in can be hit by Scrapper/Megaphone.

Out of your list, Rayquaza EX and Super Rod are what I'm really going to miss. I'll miss the Zoroark that has Nasty Plot and Foul Play too.
 
Early on, I'm sure Fighting will be really hype, and I can see a lot of people running Mewtwo EX to counter it. Once the hype dies down a little, the format will be pretty much the same as it has been, except with Fighting added, and a couple decks hit hard by the rotation gone.
 
RE: BW- On Format Discussion

Ironman131 said:
Having extended part of the main tournament is stupid in my opinion. It gives players the opportunity to change their deck completely for day 2.
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So? If everyone is changing, it's still fair because it's not like you can try to run something that beats what everyone else was using because they are also more than likely switching decks.

Ironman131 said:
It would be more beneficial if we were allowed to have like a 10-15 card side board of standard cards and change the deck around between swiss matches instead of possibly changing the deck your playing completely for day 2.
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Too many issues there. With 10-15 cards, you can pretty much change your entire deck anyways. Since everyone runs just a bout the same supporter line, all you'd have to do is just change out your pokemon, assuming you're using energy that works with everything, which is a non issue. Also, this game has too many cards that just say NO to certain decks. For example: Facing Plasma? Just put in Haxorus PLB and Silver Mirror and KO everything they have instantly, while they're unable to damage you. You potentially just turned a matchup that might have been unfavorable to even for you or even already in your favor into a straight blowout.

And I'm confident 90% of decks would side into Garbodor or something stupid like that.


EDIT: I just noticed you said between MATCHES. I'm not sure what the benefit of that is since you'd basically just be changing your deck into something that beats whatever is most prevalent at that tournament, or at least turning a bad matchup into a less bad one, which is not really fair or skillful.
 
skullvarnish said:
Early on, I'm sure Fighting will be really hype, and I can see a lot of people running Mewtwo EX to counter it. Once the hype dies down a little, the format will be pretty much the same as it has been, except with Fighting added, and a couple decks hit hard by the rotation gone.
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Actually, you can also run a Mewtwo EX on a Fightind deck, even 2, and use it with DCEs.
 
Eron said:
skullvarnish said:
Early on, I'm sure Fighting will be really hype, and I can see a lot of people running Mewtwo EX to counter it. Once the hype dies down a little, the format will be pretty much the same as it has been, except with Fighting added, and a couple decks hit hard by the rotation gone.
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Actually, you can also run a Mewtwo EX on a Fightind deck, even 2, and use it with DCEs.
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Yeah, I know. But you're only using your Mewtwo when you know that you're either getting rid of theirs, getting rid of an important Fighting dude and know their Mewtwo can't revenge KO yours, or if you don't even care if their Mewtwo revenge KOs yours.
 
Landuros is very good. I will be adding in Mr.Mime to a couple decks for sure. I think that if there is a counter to fighting I will definitely build the deck.
 
RE: 2015 Season Card Sets Rotation - What Will You Miss?

RiverShock said:
Super Rod, Level Ball, Gabite, Foul Play Zoroark, Drifblim, Reuniclus and Ho-Oh EX are probably the only cards I will miss greatly. (Though certain aspects of the game that Super Rod facilitated I am fine with going.) Kinda Giratina EX also.

I am GLAD Sableye, Dark Patch and Accelgor are going. Dark Explorers as a whole in all honesty. Also glad Prism Energy is going.

There's a few minor bits and pieces like Zebstrika, Sneasel (I feel the Corner one was actually pretty useful), Aerodactyl, Archeops, Gardevoir, Milotic, Shedinja, Heavy Ball, and Random Receiver I'll kinda miss, but I'll get over it.
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Drifblim had a promo reprint that is still legal so no dramas there.

I completely forgot about bouffalant! That's annoying... also prism energy and foul play zoroark are probably the two I'll miss most..
 
skullvarnish said:
Eron said:
Actually, you can also run a Mewtwo EX on a Fightind deck, even 2, and use it with DCEs.
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Yeah, I know. But you're only using your Mewtwo when you know that you're either getting rid of theirs, getting rid of an important Fighting dude and know their Mewtwo can't revenge KO yours, or if you don't even care if their Mewtwo revenge KOs yours.
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That's true, but if your Mewtwo is not damaged and only has 1 DCE, they would need either 3 Energies or 2 and a Muscle Band. But if you can't get to get Mewtwo, you can put Landorus and still damage their Mewtwo, as Landorus EX only uses 1 Energy to attack you won't suffer much damage from Mewtwo, and you can even use a Max Potion, because, losing 1 Energy is not sooooo bad.
 
The Upcoming Meta

What are some of the changes to the meta you expect to see post-Worlds? What will the new set bring to the current metagame? What are some of the big decks that you think have some real potential to do well or what do you think people will choose to to play?

I've heard that VirGen is doing well, and subsequently Pyroar variants have seen some success. I myself am playing around with a Virizion/Mewtwo list I got from one of my friends. It'll be really good if Lucario's catches on, and I've heard something of the local players talking about it doing so.
 
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