Yanmega Prime is still stalled by a baby too?
I also run ZPS with Reversals and Circulators so that isnt much of a problem
I also run ZPS with Reversals and Circulators so that isnt much of a problem
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Reshiphlosion NEEDS to be added to the list somewhere. It has consistent turn 2-3 setups and can chain Reshirams effortlessly, whereas Reshiboar struggles to match said consistency, gets demolished by a well-timed Judge, and relies heavily on Energy Retrievers to chain Reshirams. I'm certain that I'm not the first to say this.
Also, Leafeon/Roserade should be mentioned somewhere. It's not Tier 1, but its consistent turn-2 setups shouldn't be entirely dismissed.
Also, Leafeon/Roserade should be mentioned somewhere. It's not Tier 1, but its consistent turn-2 setups shouldn't be entirely dismissed.
sToRm07 said:
Where's yo proof bro?
^Who are you talking to?
I agree that Reshiram/Typhlosion should be on there and I think it's a great deck as well; I'll modify White Out to include Typhlosion variants. I haven't heard of Leafeon/Roserade, but if somebody else feels like you do, I'll add it in on Tier 4.
I have a Reshiram/Emboar list that consistently sets up by Turn 3 and it's an accepted fact that the deck sets up turn 3 so consistency is not an issue for the deck. You're probably trying to run it with Ninetales, or just haven't tried it and that's why you find it inconsistent.Wes1234 said:
I agree that Reshiram/Typhlosion should be on there and I think it's a great deck as well; I'll modify White Out to include Typhlosion variants. I haven't heard of Leafeon/Roserade, but if somebody else feels like you do, I'll add it in on Tier 4.
I should've probably specified that "inconsistency" is in the late game. If it's Ninetales, you eventually find yourself needing to top deck an Energy Retrieval/Junk Arm to continue. If it's Shuckle, you may find yourself needing to top deck a PONT/Juniper to continue. The Typhlosion variant doesn't have to worry about this. In all matches I've played, once it's setup, the Reshi-chain never stops and doesn't rely heavily on Energy Retrievals or shuffle-draw Supporters like Reshiboar does.win said:
Also, I'm in NO WAY trying to bash Reshiboar. It's just as good as Reshiphlosion (I don't care if the name sounds cheesy, that's just what I'm going to call it
). Each has its pros and cons, and I was simply stating one of them. I apologize for any confusion I may have caused.Concerning Leafeon/Roserade, it holds up fine for now, but I highly doubt that such will remain the case when Pokemon Catcher comes out. Losing the Roserade puts a real damper on the deck's offense, which makes me a bit sad. I was hoping that it would've had the chance to shine once the SPs left the format. ^^;
Well my Reshiboar deck doesn't run Ninetales or Shuckle. I've tried it both ways and each of those just overcomplicated the deck. Even without them, I've never whiffed on the energy late-game. When I do have troubles late-game (about 1 in 15 games) it's because I can't make room for any Pokemon recovery cards except one Rescue Energy. Because of the heavy hitters in the format, the prize exchange is often even. Therefore, I always need 6 Reshiram to attack but the deck I use can only give me five. However, once I make room for 1 more card this will not be an issue.
But it short, the deck is amazing as it sets up by turn 3 almost every game and I literally never have an energy drought. Don't hate it till you've tried it PM me if you want my list.
But it short, the deck is amazing as it sets up by turn 3 almost every game and I literally never have an energy drought. Don't hate it till you've tried it
PM me if you want my list.
Oh I've never hated it. I would've actually tried it out myself had I owned enough Emboars, but I lacked said cards, instead having 3 Typhlosion Primes rotting in my binder at the time. It happened to work out quite well, and it's been my personal preference over the Emboar variant ever since. I never wanted, nor intended, to give the impression of hating the deck. I personally love the deck. I simply opt to use the Typhlosion variant to fit my personal play style, just as you've opted to use the Emboar variant to fit your play style, and there's nothing wrong with that. (Besides, I'm trying to get Emboars to use with Top Burner Magmortar. ^^; )win said:But it short, the deck is amazing as it sets up by turn 3 almost every game and I literally never have an energy drought. Don't hate it till you've tried it
Concerning your recovery, have you ever considered Revive? It'd be easier to use in that it can also be Junk Arm'd.
^Yeah, I have considered Revive but I don't run Junk Arms; I feel like early game consistency is more important than the late-game consistency and I rarely need to Junk Arm PlusPowers. I just put in one Flower Shop Lady along with the Rescue Energy and it works fine.
I'll PM you the list if you want, but the main thing is that I run 4 PONT, 4 Juniper and 2 Pokegear 3.0. It sounds crazy, but it works really well; actually better than Ninetales or Shuckle. I run the bare minimum of Pokemon and Energy.SMP said:
Feral-Prime has found it's new partner in Jellicent :O
Something like
3-2-3 Feral Prime
3/4 Kyurem
2-2 Jellicent
It could be tier 1 at least.
Something like
3-2-3 Feral Prime
3/4 Kyurem
2-2 Jellicent
It could be tier 1 at least.
Riskbreakers said:
IMO Jellicent just doesn't seem to be worth it. Besides, you don't really need it seeing as Gatr becomes a surprisingly hard-hitter after a few hits from Kyurum. If you feel you need a sweeper, Gatr will handle things nicely himself, if you find the spread to be too slow
But Kyurem has things that TTar doesn't
-Energy Acceleration
-Attacker that is Basic which abuses Eviolite
Speedier setup overall. Do note that after your whole bench has received two Glaciates from Kyurem, everything can be OHKOed by Feral Prime.
-Energy Acceleration
-Attacker that is Basic which abuses Eviolite
Speedier setup overall. Do note that after your whole bench has received two Glaciates from Kyurem, everything can be OHKOed by Feral Prime.
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