The WORST card of Pokemon TCG

[Ariadosguy]

I cannot disagree with you more.

Explain how it's not bad. An energy switch will accomplish the same thing, and a few Poke Powers as well. I just don't ever consider running it.

Energy Switch will not accomplish the same thing, as it only switches a grand total of one energy.

This trainer plays a cornerstone in Salamence/Typhlosion, an interesting rogue, and it can be fetched by Lapras.

In decks that have free retreat like Tyranitar (with Moonlight Stadium), Energy Link is amazing. Retreat the battered poke, and move all it's energies onto a fresh one.

 

[Foxtrot]

Every card? Theres been one holo trainer in how many sets? Do you know what the card does, because the way you're speaking about it, you probably don't. It let you put a basic pokemon down from your hand and bring it active. Wait a second...I can play the pokemon and then play switch and DO THE EXACT SAME THING. As for the other card, wiggly is pretty much the only one that comes to mind off the bat, and that deck ran more then enough basics. Its a waste of card and costs you another card in a game that requires as much speed as nessicary. I'd take the extra c.s./I.f./oak/bill/whatever over that if I was to run wiggly. Problem with talkin about porygon now...it does evo. And unless we're talkin about metagame at the time (in which case rocket's persian ex takes the cake), porygon is definately more playable than any of the cards I've listed.

*Psst* I said modified. I'm referring to reverse holos. Even in the WOTC sets, a card doesn't have to be held to a higher standard just because it's holo. I'm well aware that they do the exact same thing. Actually, if the active Pokemon is paralyzed, it does them one better. And that Switch card... I seem to recall seeing that in more than just B1, B2, and LC... maybe because it's USEFUL. Wow! What a novel idea.

As for the other card, there may be other cards you could use, but that doesn't mean it didn't perform some kind of beneficial function. It can provide extra damage, save a card from being discarded if you want to play a Professor Oak, or simply mess with your opponent's head.

Oh, and at least when your "useless" cards are gone, you don't lose a prize for it!

And yes, I am referring to the card used in the modified format at the time. Repeating this is getting kinda old. Unlike the last thread in which we both posted where I was able to crush you with fact, this time around it is not so definite. I think it is fairly reasonable to conclude by the number of people who have mentioned the Porygon in their post (>1) is far ore than those who have mentioned either of your cards (1).

You obviously must not be familar with any cards from the WOTC era. Considering the number of Professor Oak/Bill (and Gambler, depending on their luck), having 4 Maintenence in your deck may well buy you the 4 additional turns you need to beat your opponent before your deck runs out.

Oh boy, I got a good laugh off of all of this.

A.H.s=/(does not equal since my keyboard doesn't have that key. ;/)holo. Looks like somebody doesn't know the basics of collecting cards...The other part is complete babbling so I'll just ignore it.

How does it do any of that? It doesn't stop anything from being discarded as it gets dicarded as soon as it comes active (unless its a basic in which case that trainer acted JUST LIKE SURGE DOES). Mental games work in modified...but in a game of unlimited, in which by t3 the game is usually deteremined, mind games simply don't work.

So its a clefiary doll that works even less than that card does normally? great, worth the deck space and resources to do...

See, the O.P. didn't mention that at all, so we're debating on two different topics. :/ And you crushed me with fact? LOL you got your little 10 cent misprinted basic energy...gfy. Good luck convincing anybody that its worth more than that. And people are drones and just repeat what they know and think is correct. If I recall correctly, porygon actually saw play in decks. Did any of the cards I've listed do that? No in any that I've seen.

YOU must not be familar with WOTC era and matches. If a game lasted more then 11 turns, then it was either a fluke bad start or stalling deck(s). Maitnence would only help against such a deck but then your sacrificing against every other matchup for a bad draw and giving up resources to beat such stall decks (more I.F./GOW/PP).

 

[afnlsjg]

Oh boy, I got a good laugh off of all of this.

A.H.s=/(does not equal since my keyboard doesn't have that key. ;/)holo. Looks like somebody doesn't know the basics of collecting cards...The other part is complete babbling so I'll just ignore it.

How does it do any of that? It doesn't stop anything from being discarded as it gets dicarded as soon as it comes active (unless its a basic in which case that trainer acted JUST LIKE SURGE DOES). Mental games work in modified...but in a game of unlimited, in which by t3 the game is usually deteremined, mind games simply don't work.

So its a clefiary doll that works even less than that card does normally? great, worth the deck space and resources to do...

See, the O.P. didn't mention that at all, so we're debating on two different topics. :/ And you crushed me with fact? LOL you got your little 10 cent misprinted basic energy...gfy. Good luck convincing anybody that its worth more than that. And people are drones and just repeat what they know and think is correct. If I recall correctly, porygon actually saw play in decks. Did any of the cards I've listed do that? No in any that I've seen.

YOU must not be familar with WOTC era and matches. If a game lasted more then 11 turns, then it was either a fluke bad start or stalling deck(s). Maitnence would only help against such a deck but then your sacrificing against every other matchup for a bad draw and giving up resources to beat such stall decks (more I.F./GOW/PP).

Sure does. It was done to make people want to get them, making the printers of these cards more money. Claydol is a very useful card, and isn't a holo rare. Holographic status does not dictate usefulness. Otherwise, all energies would be holo.

Really, seek help. How many times must I say this. THE THREAD IS NOT DISCUSSING UNLIMITED FORMAT. It's impractical to do so. Otherwise, I could argue that there may be a card comes out that allows you to draw all your remaining prizes if there is a Lt. Surge in your hand. The cards were designed to work (and be limited) by other cards in their format - MODIFIED FORMAT. It doesn't have to be stated, it's common sense.

Clefairy Doll didn't cost you a prize. Porygon did.

I'm glad you recognize it's misprinted. You ran so fast with your tail between your legs I wasn't sure if the thought would have time to catch up. And I've already been offered $199.99 by another eBay seller once the card is graded (likely a PSA 9 or 10, but the case, as you pointed out, is very bent, I hope it won't decrease the value...). I plan on listing it for more than that, though. If they repeat everything that is posted, why aren't the repeating yours? You're probably recalling wrong. If there was a reason for it to be in there, it would have been stated already.

Then the contenders in your leagues must have been terrible (maybe they didn't last long because they all played with Porygons!). So please, pull your head out of your rear and conjure up enough common sense to last one minute. Ready? Okay. I think we can all agree that Porygon does nothing to advance the player towards getting a prize. Now we look at your two selections. " Wait a second...I can play the pokemon and then play switch and DO THE EXACT SAME THING." Lt. Surge can accomplish something that a card that was deemed worth reprinting does. Sounds like a positive function to me! Oh, and when it's gone, you don't lost a prize. "Its a waste of card and costs you another card in a game". Whether you agree it is the best card for the job or not, it still has a positive effect on the lasting play of the game (Wigglytuff's damage dealing). Your cards have a positive function, whether you feel it is the best suited card for doing it or not. Porygon doesn't, and quickly brings you closer to losing to top it off. I'll play you with a deck where my only Pokemon is Blaine's Kangaskhan, and my only trainers are Maintenence and the Surges (and energy). Your will be composed of only Porygon (and energy). I wonder who will win... (thank you, maintenence).

 

[Lord Atmo]

Worst DP series card? That one's tough.... So many of them are terrible on their own. But pair them with a Pokemon with a useful power and they suddenly become awesome.

LA Holo Heatran for example. As a standalone card, he's dealing a lot of damage but mercilessly eats your energy away. Level him up with the SF card and suddenly you can keep doing a steady 80 damage without losing a single energy to do so.

The card I guess I wasn't too fond of in LA was holo Regigigas. For one thing, the body makes it pretty useless unless There's some way of disabling poke-bodies. But otherwise this card pretty much goes against the metagame. Add that to the effect of its only attack that makes it difficult to use effectively. Chances are by the time you get him out there and can attack, you've probably been hurting the defending pokemon already and now can only deal 40 damage for a rather...colorful energy cost. And retreating is out of the question for ol' Gigas!


Unlimited, on the other hand...oh god...

Gym Heroes brought forth the worst cards ever.


Misty's Goldeen...

This is the worst card among several others in Gym Heroes that was rare when it should never have been. Look at its stats. Its attack is identical to that of Nidoran Male from Base Set. Same energy cost, same base damage, and same probability of failing if you don't flip heads. In fact, the only differences between this card and the Nidoran is that Misty's Goldeen has 10 less HP, no retreat cost, and....isn't a Nidoran or from the same series.

I weep for anyone who had the misfortune of pulling this bonfire fuel in a GH pack.

And there were so many other incorrectly-rare cards in that series. Basic pokemon that evolved into cards that SHOULDVE been the rares.

I never regret skipping that whole set....

 

[yoyofsho16]

Ha, it's Night Pokemon Center! I have never seen ANYONE run that in a deck, not even noobies.

 

[Zyflair]

I used it in Kingdra. Been said and done.

*Continues watching Foxtrot and vilebaseball debate.*

 

[Blue Thunder]

Zyflair, I think you should divide this up into categories:

-Worst common
-Worst uncommon
-Worst rare
-Worst holo
-Worst ex
-Worst LV. X
-Worst other ultra-rare
-Worst Trainer card

*pops popcorn and tunes into the debate on this thread*

 

[Full Moon]

Magikarp Delta Speicies. That is the worst card ever.

 

[Zyflair]

Zyflair, I think you should divide this up into categories:

-Worst common
-Worst uncommon
-Worst rare
-Worst holo
-Worst ex
-Worst LV. X
-Worst other ultra-rare
-Worst Trainer card

*pops popcorn and tunes into the debate on this thread*

I don't feel like making a list. Besides, vilebaseball and Foxtrot are getting close.

 

[Blue Thunder]

You are so lazy....

I can't wait to see how this turns out. I'm on vilebaseball's side for this on, though Foxtrot has some points.

 

[elekid957]

i think magicarp DS is still the worst. 30 HP with one attack that's hard to use is lame.. or it could be feebas cuz that sucks as well.

 

[Foxtrot]

Oh boy, I got a good laugh off of all of this.

A.H.s=/(does not equal since my keyboard doesn't have that key. ;/)holo. Looks like somebody doesn't know the basics of collecting cards...The other part is complete babbling so I'll just ignore it.

How does it do any of that? It doesn't stop anything from being discarded as it gets dicarded as soon as it comes active (unless its a basic in which case that trainer acted JUST LIKE SURGE DOES). Mental games work in modified...but in a game of unlimited, in which by t3 the game is usually deteremined, mind games simply don't work.

So its a clefiary doll that works even less than that card does normally? great, worth the deck space and resources to do...

See, the O.P. didn't mention that at all, so we're debating on two different topics. :/ And you crushed me with fact? LOL you got your little 10 cent misprinted basic energy...gfy. Good luck convincing anybody that its worth more than that. And people are drones and just repeat what they know and think is correct. If I recall correctly, porygon actually saw play in decks. Did any of the cards I've listed do that? No in any that I've seen.

YOU must not be familar with WOTC era and matches. If a game lasted more then 11 turns, then it was either a fluke bad start or stalling deck(s). Maitnence would only help against such a deck but then your sacrificing against every other matchup for a bad draw and giving up resources to beat such stall decks (more I.F./GOW/PP).

Sure does. It was done to make people want to get them, making the printers of these cards more money. Claydol is a very useful card, and isn't a holo rare. Holographic status does not dictate usefulness. Otherwise, all energies would be holo.

Really, seek help. How many times must I say this. THE THREAD IS NOT DISCUSSING UNLIMITED FORMAT. It's impractical to do so. Otherwise, I could argue that there may be a card comes out that allows you to draw all your remaining prizes if there is a Lt. Surge in your hand. The cards were designed to work (and be limited) by other cards in their format - MODIFIED FORMAT. It doesn't have to be stated, it's common sense.

Clefairy Doll didn't cost you a prize. Porygon did.

I'm glad you recognize it's misprinted. You ran so fast with your tail between your legs I wasn't sure if the thought would have time to catch up. And I've already been offered $199.99 by another eBay seller once the card is graded (likely a PSA 9 or 10, but the case, as you pointed out, is very bent, I hope it won't decrease the value...). I plan on listing it for more than that, though. If they repeat everything that is posted, why aren't the repeating yours? You're probably recalling wrong. If there was a reason for it to be in there, it would have been stated already.

Then the contenders in your leagues must have been terrible (maybe they didn't last long because they all played with Porygons!). So please, pull your head out of your rear and conjure up enough common sense to last one minute. Ready? Okay. I think we can all agree that Porygon does nothing to advance the player towards getting a prize. Now we look at your two selections. " Wait a second...I can play the pokemon and then play switch and DO THE EXACT SAME THING." Lt. Surge can accomplish something that a card that was deemed worth reprinting does. Sounds like a positive function to me! Oh, and when it's gone, you don't lost a prize. "Its a waste of card and costs you another card in a game". Whether you agree it is the best card for the job or not, it still has a positive effect on the lasting play of the game (Wigglytuff's damage dealing). Your cards have a positive function, whether you feel it is the best suited card for doing it or not. Porygon doesn't, and quickly brings you closer to losing to top it off. I'll play you with a deck where my only Pokemon is Blaine's Kangaskhan, and my only trainers are Maintenence and the Surges (and energy). Your will be composed of only Porygon (and energy). I wonder who will win... (thank you, maintenence).

I never claimed that being a holo means a card is good. I was saying that surge didn't deserve to be printed as a holo because of how bad it is.

Get help? When a topic is started about the best/worse of XXXX, the general assumtion is that is implies all time. Maybe your misunderstandin is from a lack of board experience or general speaking to people, in which case don't start crap you're not used to dealin with. How is it impractical to do so? Dealing with >6000 cards too hard for you (not sure if thats really under or not...)? You're weak point about them possibly making a new card that does XXX is a desperate attempt to prove a cards usefullness. Since such a card has never been released, your clearly not winning this arguement. As for how cards are designed, of course thats how it works. Why would you make a card thats 3 formats beyond its time? Or a card thats belongs 2 formats ago? Rocket's persian ex is a good example of that mistake but those type of mistakes are pretty rare.

I was talkin about surge's secret plan, not porygon. All 3 are wastes of space, but porygon can at least evolve and help your feild develop (via stalling).

I was mocking it but okay. And LOL what a fool. I doubt you'd actually get that money and is probably a joke bid. And people are restating what you are because they haven't done any research/played this game since it started and have only heard of porygon and nothing else.

There were at least 3 world quality players at my league. Also, I never claimed porygon was the focus of any deck (mearly a tech in a few). Also, so what your saying is that porygon does not help against a grass deck that heals when your playing a water deck that doesn't hit for a whole lot? LOL right.

WRONG! Surge is 100X WORSE than switch, as it requires you to switch with a pokemon in your hand and you can't use it if you have a bench. As for SSP, the card would never be on the feild for long at all. Stalling a turn with a pesudo-fossil (which didn't give up a prize and could actually do something) just because it "didn't give up a prize" is laughable in any format. You're pick has positive functions that I've listed and you've simply dismissed because you didn't like the format. lol way to lose. As for the little deck battle there, I'd gladly take my porygon along with my porgyon 2 and porygon Z, thank you very much. But you can have the amazing maitnences as a parting gift.

 

[Lord Atmo]

I may be alone here, but how about all those "star" cards from the EX series? I've looked at many of them and I must say their attacks are dreadful. The Gyrados decks you completely and ensures that you will lose on your next turn, Jolteon inflicts damage on the defending pokemon...and you. Plus its attack is just pitiful, Pikachu.....shouldn't even be among them, Alakazam requires you to kill your own team in order for it to use that card's attack, Charizard has a great attack but getting 4 darkness energies onto him at the time would take forever, and the Regis all have WAY too tough attack requirements to use them effectively.

"You can only have 1 Pokemon star in your deck". pfft I wouldnt have ANY in my deck. BLUGH!

 

[The Fallen One]

I may be alone here, but how about all those "star" cards from the EX series? I've looked at many of them and I must say their attacks are dreadful. The Gyrados decks you completely and ensures that you will lose on your next turn, Jolteon inflicts damage on the defending pokemon...and you. Plus its attack is just pitiful, Pikachu...shouldn't even be among them, Alakazam requires you to kill your own team in order for it to use that card's attack, Charizard has a great attack but getting 4 darkness energies onto him at the time would take forever, and the Regis all have WAY too tough attack requirements to use them effectively.

While I agree on most of those, some I don't.

Whith Gyarados, I would think that you would run quite a few energy. Send out Delcatty EX and use Upstream for massive damage.

Jolteon was used to great effect in one deck that one Worlds (you know the one).

And Charizard became much more viable when DP was first released. You could probably have run that well during that time period, but you never know.

 

[Zyflair]

Jolteon inflicts damage on the defending pokemon...and you.

And thus one of the most epic disruption tech in the HP-DP era.

 

[Lord Atmo]

I have that WC deck with jolteon. but i still don't know how it works

 

[don()shinobi]

I've looked at many of them and I must say their attacks are dreadful.

Rayquaza star says hi.

I'd say the worst card of all time is magikarp HP. It has only 30 hit points, and its only attack does 10 damage for 1 metal energy. And this was when metal was special only.

 

[The Fallen One]

I have that WC deck with jolteon. but I still don't know how it works

Damage Spreading. It was epic for that, though I can't play it worth a darn either.

I guess you have to be the builder to know how it works.

 

[afnlsjg]

I never claimed that being a holo means a card is good. I was saying that surge didn't deserve to be printed as a holo because of how bad it is.

Get help? When a topic is started about the best/worse of XXXX, the general assumtion is that is implies all time. Maybe your misunderstandin is from a lack of board experience or general speaking to people, in which case don't start crud you're not used to dealin with. How is it impractical to do so? Dealing with >6000 cards too hard for you (not sure if thats really under or not...)? You're weak point about them possibly making a new card that does XXX is a desperate attempt to prove a cards usefullness. Since such a card has never been released, your clearly not winning this arguement. As for how cards are designed, of course thats how it works. Why would you make a card thats 3 formats beyond its time? Or a card thats belongs 2 formats ago? Rocket's persian ex is a good example of that mistake but those type of mistakes are pretty rare.

I was talkin about surge's secret plan, not porygon. All 3 are wastes of space, but porygon can at least evolve and help your feild develop (via stalling).

I was mocking it but okay. And LOL what a fool. I doubt you'd actually get that money and is probably a joke bid. And people are restating what you are because they haven't done any research/played this game since it started and have only heard of porygon and nothing else.

There were at least 3 world quality players at my league. Also, I never claimed porygon was the focus of any deck (mearly a tech in a few). Also, so what your saying is that porygon does not help against a grass deck that heals when your playing a water deck that doesn't hit for a whole lot? LOL right.

WRONG! Surge is 100X WORSE than switch, as it requires you to switch with a pokemon in your hand and you can't use it if you have a bench. As for SSP, the card would never be on the feild for long at all. Stalling a turn with a pesudo-fossil (which didn't give up a prize and could actually do something) just because it "didn't give up a prize" is laughable in any format. You're pick has positive functions that I've listed and you've simply dismissed because you didn't like the format. lol way to lose. As for the little deck battle there, I'd gladly take my porygon along with my porgyon 2 and porygon Z, thank you very much. But you can have the amazing maitnences as a parting gift.

Okay, so let me get this strait. A card doesn't have to be good to be holo, it just can't be bad? What kind of ludicrous statement is that? I'm going to edit the rest of this and include the rest, this is just too funny for you to be able to edit away.

Yes, that is correct. The worst card in Pokemon TCG. Cards are meant to be used with and limited by other cards within the window that the set is allowed in modified. Again, for all you know, they could make a card that makes one of your cards incredibly good. There's no way to know. This whole arguement may not matter if the world ends. These need to be in terms of the practicality of this debate (because we don't know what may come out and make a card far better) as well as in judging the card based on it's intended use (I'm not entirely certain, as I haven't played competitively since WOTC left, but do "unlimited" format matches count towards your player rating? Do they have unlimited matches for scholarship prizes at tournaments?), in modified format. I'm not sure where you're going with the Rocket's Persian ex garbage. My point is, that regardless of what they've released now, or what you think they will or won't do, it doesn't matter. They purposely come up with a card to counter every card out there (lest there be some unbeatable deck).

Porygon cannot evolve in MODIFIED, given that's what counts. It cannot stall for umm, crap. Eevee in play. Porygon changes resist to colorless. Eevee evolves into Flareon/Jolteon/Vaporeon, Porygon loses. It has 30 HP. Anything that hits 40 has it down in 3, and even with resistance, a "low hitting" Blastoise in a water deck (which is also powered up very quickly) could take it down in one hit. As long as you didn't have any grass weakness cards (no big deal), a water deck should have had no problem against a grass deck. Again, I don't know what kind of league you played in. Maybe those three "world quality" players didn't use Porygon and didn't underestimate water Pokemon like you do. And yes, I would actually get that money. Both they and myself do business transactions on a weekly basis. That is one of many I have gotten (out of the 4 major Pokemon retailers on eBay I asked for identification help with, 4 offered over $150 for it after saying they have no clue). We've been going on with this discussion for pages, although it seems like you just keep rephrasing your same incorrect statement over and over and over again. People have acknowledged our debate. They repeat Porygon, they repeat Magikarp. Where are yours? Are you trying to say everyone repeats every answer BUT the right one. What are the odds of that? Okay then, who here is willing to enter a legally binding contract to give me $100? My plan is, for each person that picks no, that's not the right answer, so they really mean yes. I'll be rich. See the logic in that?

If there was a Hitmonlee on the field, the player may prefer to go from the hand. And for the last time, even though you may feel there is a card that better performs the function, the card you mention still PERFORMS A FUNCTION, and maybe if not in the most efficient way by your standards, it is still a useful one. Porygon DOES NOT. It has no positive functions whatsoever. It's not that I don't like the format, it just makes no logical sense to judge by it. No, no, no. Don't get ahead of yourself. No selecting decent cards now. I have no qualms with Porygon2 (well, the NR one wasn't very good, but certainly not "worst" material like you claimed the ones I'm taking are) or Porygon Z.

Really, I'm sorry that you don't win this one. I feel bad, considering this seems to happen every time. Just a suggestion, but maybe it would be a good idea to start picking the correct stance. I know it sounds crazy, but often times the correct person wins.

 

[TofU]

Magikarp Delta Species...

30 HP... 10 for 1 Metal Energy... when only there were special energys...