Finished Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Nerds Win

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RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 2 End 11/22/2011 7AM GMT+8

Vote: Chillarmy
I'm sorry, but this is better than a random lynch. I think Meaty is more suspicious you, but to avoid the random lynch, this is my vote.
 
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 2 End 11/22/2011 7AM GMT+8

superpokemon67 said:
Vote: Chillarmy
I'm sorry, but this is better than a random lynch. I think Meaty is more suspicious you, but to avoid the random lynch, this is my vote.
DV do you really rather have random lynch than Chillarmy? :/ It's the only vote really happening right now, and EVERYONE is included in the random lynch.
 
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 2 End 11/22/2011 7AM GMT+8

Rock Wrecker, if you aren't even going to bother reading the posts that you are arguing about I'm not going to keep arguing with you. Even though its on the page before, I will quote it once again:

Chillarmy said:
Just a thought guys, the nerds can't kill tonight, and we're suspicious of safariblade hating on tdl, but safariblade can't speak tonight. I say we let safariblade live for today, and see what he has to say in two days. We can afford to let him live as the nerds can't kill.

Also, isn't it convienient that someone tried to kill TDL, and safariblade voted for TDl as a joke that everyone rubbed off. However, TDL was killed AND safariblade was silenced, and then Meaty made a very convenient accusation of safariblade. I'm thinking Meaty is quite quite suspicious. What do you guys think?

Chillarmy did not suggest that we vote for Meaty "for giving us something to go off of." He suggested that Meaty was suspicious because he was trying to incriminate someone who was framed, and asked what everyone else thought about his idea, which is perfectly sensible and means he is open to other's ideas. Then DNA flies off the handle and votes for him without even explaining his vote except for basically saying that everything Chillarmy has said is stupid without explaining why.

Then you ask why I mentioned that Meaty and Chillarmy has different theories on Safariblade. The reason was because I was replying to how in the post before you asked why I was bringing Safariblade up.

Next you say that you are voting for Chillarmy for him jumping on Meaty and defending Safariblade. This is after you say that their theories don't matter. Um...what? Meaty provided a theory about why Safariblade was guilty and Chillarmy provided a theory about why Safariblade wasn't guilty and Meaty could be. So, we are voting for them based on their theories.

Next you say that Safariblade could have been silenced because of his role failing and you crossed out the fact that if being silenced was part of his role that means that he couldn't claim he was framed. Why did you cross that line out? If part of Safariblade's role said he was silenced upon failure to kill, why would he take such a huge risk night 1 by framing himself? Not even reverse psychology can explain that, it would be plain stupid. To invalidate your point even further, no leader of any evil group in any ww game on PB has ever had a backlash to their effect and there is no reason for te jocks to have one.

Also, I'd like to remind everyone that Meaty tried to bandwagon people onto PMJ day one and was very suspicious then. This is hardly the first suspicious thing he's done.

However, I see that way too many people are bandwagoning Chillarmy and nobody is listening to me, and we don't have much time left. So, I propose that we kill Guy today. Sure he is not a threat today, but he's better than a random lynch. Then, our seer can reveal Meaty and maybe Chillarmy or my roles tonight. The reason I think that Meaty should be the first checked is that if he is guilty that will catch 2 bad guys (DNA and Meaty) and maybe a third (Rock Wrecker) as well as freeing Safariblade and to some extent me and Chillarmy from suspicion. Even if Meaty turns out to be innocent, we will still know that DNA and Rock Wrecker are cleared from suspicion for now. Then if our seer gets a power-up again tonight they may be able to check me or Chillarmy. I'd love to have my own role revealed because I'm getting tired of defending myself but Chillarmy is more suspicious than me as of now so he would be a better choice to see. What do people think of that idea? We avoid the random lynch, have a 0% chance of hitting a townie, and get a night for our seer to make huge revelations without much risk to us.
 
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 2 End 11/22/2011 7AM GMT+8

Sixteen votes are needed to lynch. I apologize for not having kept up with this thread, I've been busy this weekend with work and schoolwork.

I am holding onto my vote until I catch up. Dark Void looks like he's put a lot of thought into his posts, so to those of you bandwagoning, I suggest reading what he has to say and take it into consideration. Yes, randomly losing a player is not good, but an informed vote is better than an uninformed one.
 
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 2 End 11/22/2011 7AM GMT+8

Thanks PMJ.

I realize you guys are trying to avoid a random lynch, but I strongly suggest you read over Dark Void's posts. They pretty much bold, underline, italicize, highlight, and underscore everything I've been trying to tell you guys. Reconsider your votes, you won't regret it.
 
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 2 End 11/22/2011 7AM GMT+8

Dark Void said:
Rock Wrecker, if you aren't even going to bother reading the posts that you are arguing about I'm not going to keep arguing with you. Even though its on the page before, I will quote it once again:


Chillarmy did not suggest that we vote for Meaty "for giving us something to go off of." He suggested that Meaty was suspicious because he was trying to incriminate someone who was framed, and asked what everyone else thought about his idea, which is perfectly sensible and means he is open to other's ideas. Then DNA flies off the handle and votes for him without even explaining his vote except for basically saying that everything Chillarmy has said is stupid without explaining why.

Then you ask why I mentioned that Meaty and Chillarmy has different theories on Safariblade. The reason was because I was replying to how in the post before you asked why I was bringing Safariblade up.

Next you say that you are voting for Chillarmy for him jumping on Meaty and defending Safariblade. This is after you say that their theories don't matter. Um...what? Meaty provided a theory about why Safariblade was guilty and Chillarmy provided a theory about why Safariblade wasn't guilty and Meaty could be. So, we are voting for them based on their theories.

Next you say that Safariblade could have been silenced because of his role failing and you crossed out the fact that if being silenced was part of his role that means that he couldn't claim he was framed. Why did you cross that line out? If part of Safariblade's role said he was silenced upon failure to kill, why would he take such a huge risk night 1 by framing himself? Not even reverse psychology can explain that, it would be plain stupid. To invalidate your point even further, no leader of any evil group in any ww game on PokéBeach has ever had a backlash to their effect and there is no reason for te jocks to have one.

Also, I'd like to remind everyone that Meaty tried to bandwagon people onto PMJ day one and was very suspicious then. This is hardly the first suspicious thing he's done.

However, I see that way too many people are bandwagoning Chillarmy and nobody is listening to me, and we don't have much time left. So, I propose that we kill Guy today. Sure he is not a threat today, but he's better than a random lynch. Then, our seer can reveal Meaty and maybe Chillarmy or my roles tonight. The reason I think that Meaty should be the first checked is that if he is guilty that will catch 2 bad guys (DNA and Meaty) and maybe a third (Rock Wrecker) as well as freeing Safariblade and to some extent me and Chillarmy from suspicion. Even if Meaty turns out to be innocent, we will still know that DNA and Rock Wrecker are cleared from suspicion for now. Then if our seer gets a power-up again tonight they may be able to check me or Chillarmy. I'd love to have my own role revealed because I'm getting tired of defending myself but Chillarmy is more suspicious than me as of now so he would be a better choice to see. What do people think of that idea? We avoid the random lynch, have a 0% chance of hitting a townie, and get a night for our seer to make huge revelations without much risk to us.
Finally you've made some points that make sense to me. What I crossed out I thought you were trying to make a different point but I read over it again and you were right. The backlash does seem like it may not make sense actually, but we've never had wolves like these before. I still believe Chillarmy was too quick to get on Meaty, but you do make valid points. You still say he was framed and for him to be framed that would mean that there was some evidence toward him doing the killing which I still think is important. On your last paragraph I think killing Guy is a good idea but we don't have much time or active members. So should we try quickly now or what? We already have a bunch of votes on Chillarmy The seer should go ahead and check out and check out any of todays six suspicious people I guess (Safari, Chillarmy, DV, Meaty, DNA, and myself), but Meaty, Chillarmy, and safari are probably the best choices.
 
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 2 End 11/22/2011 7AM GMT+8

By the way, just for the record (and to please people who are going to obviously go the route of "you defended chillarmy who is guilty, that is very suspicious!!!!", I'm not trying to say that Chillarmy is innocent, but just to be sure you're voting for someone you really believe is guilty before you go blowing your vote.
 
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 2 End 11/22/2011 7AM GMT+8

Interesting idea to lynch Guy, but I'm sticking with my vote for now because of my reasons stated earlier. Also, I would just like to say voting for someone because they jumped on someone quickly is not a good idea. The person could be a seer and is jumping on another person because he/she knows who they are.
 
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 2 End 11/22/2011 7AM GMT+8

RW said:
I still believe Chillarmy was too quick to get on Meaty

Just clarifying, you think a1 full day and 1 1/2 pages is too quick?
 
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 2 End 11/22/2011 7AM GMT+8

Chillarmy 13
Meaty 2

Less than 24 Hours to get random.org'd
 
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 2 End 11/22/2011 7AM GMT+8

I didn't hop on the Chillwagon because there just wasn't enough evidence for me to vote, and the same went for Meaty (although I personally thought trying to mass bandwagon two people in two days was a lot more suspicious than what Chillarmy did). Dark Void makes perfect sense with the Operation Lynch Guy plan, and that's what I'm going to choose.

Vote: Guy89
 
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 2 End 11/22/2011 7AM GMT+8

Unvote: Meaty
Vote: Guy89


Let's do this
LEEEEROOOOOY JEEEENKIIIINS
 
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 2 End 11/22/2011 7AM GMT+8

I'm not really caught up with everything that's been going on. Was really busy yesterday and today and didn't get a chance to read everything.

Going to take the PMJ approach and save my vote until I really know what's happening.
 
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 2 End 11/22/2011 7AM GMT+8

Unlike you guys, I actually have a life on the weekends and I don't really spend it here, so I had to read through about 3 pages worth (at 25 posts/page). Moving on.

TheDarkLucario said:
Meaty and DNA were a little too quick to jump on Chillarmy, but I don't think that's really reason to lynch the either of them. I actually think they had the right idea by suspecting Chillarmy, who in return didn't really make a solid defense. Even though he says he misread, his defense was still silly, and he used the classic "NOOO I'M GOOD MY ROLE IS HELPFUL TO YOU DUDES." Even if he was telling the truth, that's basically shooting yourself in the foot since you put a target on your head, like PMJ said.
This basically explains my reasoning here. I admit, I was probably a little quick in pointing a finger at Chillarmy right away as usually I wait a while until deciding to cast my vote in. However it was mostly because of Chillarmy's lacklustre defense that I realized something might be up.
Like I said I am not targetting Safariblade at this time because I don't know what caused his silencing. As people have said it could be anything. I just found it strange that Chillarmy found himself rather quick to jump in front of SB with rather strange reasons, hence my vote.

And it's really the only lead we have to go on...or at least, the strongest lead I can see (after reading through this thread for a long time my brain starts to get really bored of it), so I might as well do something. It's less of a shot in the dark this way.

Meaty said:
Chillarmy was not quick to jump on me because I was quick to jump on him, it was the opposite. I accused safariblade, Chillarmy said some things against me, DNA jumped against Chillarmy, and I kind of agreed with DNA. If you guys think that DNA is defending me because we are wolves, well, neutrals are meant to defend each other as well... Honestly, I don't really know why DNA defended me or if he really meant to at all.
He put it pretty well also. Chillarmy was jumping the gun, I'm thinking "what's he doing?" and my eyebrows raise.

Was I trying to defend Meaty? Not even close. If you guys think I'm trying to defend Meaty with my post you must be all crazy; anyone who knows how we get along on chat will know what I mean :p

But seriously yeah. I don't really agree with Meaty's accusation (at least I think it was his) that SB is suspicious...at least not yet. That's why I'm going to wait and see how things unfold before making a more serious decision.

on a side note, why are we voting for guy again
 
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 2 End 11/22/2011 7AM GMT+8

Chillarmy 13
Meaty 1
guy89 2

23 Hours to get random.org'd
 
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 2 End 11/22/2011 7AM GMT+8

I'll say it AGAIN. I said it 1 full day and 1 1/2 pages later. I don't know about you, but I think tha's nto that quick >.<
 
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 2 End 11/22/2011 7AM GMT+8

There's no point in voting for Guy89. If anything, he's helpful to the neutral faction, and why waste a lynch on him when he'll most likely be killed at night? If you ask me, anyone who wants to lynch Guy89 is either a jock/nerd, or an unintelligent neutral.

Chillarmy's defenses are seeming a lot weaker to me. The point wasn't that you accused me quickly, it's that your evidence wasn't very credible.
 
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 2 End 11/22/2011 7AM GMT+8

I'll tell you again you said it all in one short post.
@ Gale, we don't have much time left. With voting Guy we know we're gettig rid of an indie. Is 23 hours enough time to lynch amother person? Idk :/
 
RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 2 End 11/22/2011 7AM GMT+8

Wait wut. Why would we lynch Guy now...he is completely useless in this game right now besides voting for lynches. We're better off letting him stay to keep his vote than kill him while he can't do anything.

inb4 I get ninja'd since I had this page open for so long :p
 
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