Finished Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Rockets Win

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RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST

Because of this:
PMJ said:
The ability targets _anyone_ who is capable of killing another player via any means
and this:
HypnoticLuxray said:
But it seems strange that no one questioned him before, until they were under threat. It seems to me as if you're grasping at straws, trying to accuse someone to excuse yourself from suspicion and create a nice, game-ending bandwagon. A bandwagon on someone who's been constantly helpful. That's not how I want to end the game. I am positive at least one of people Cinesra mentioned is a wolf. I think our chances lie best there.
I'm going to go for it
Vote: Riskbreakers
I figured I'd start with him seeing as how he's a game host who's made it this long, but I don't really care which of the three we go after first.
 
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST

Riskbreakers said:
I'm with Teapot. Cinesra's role only scans kill roles and not alignments, so his scans will only reveal one wolf. How do we know he isn't one as well?

So let's vote off the one with the kill role now, and then go from there? You're the only one who knows who that is. Also, you still misread somebody's role because I'm not a wolf. I'd like a response to this if possible.
 
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST

Teapot said:
So let's vote off the one with the kill role now, and then go from there?You're the only one who knows who that is.
I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean.
Also, you still misread somebody's role because I'm not a wolf. I'd like a response to this if possible.
1. Impossible
2. I have no reason to believe you.
3. This is a pretty lame attempt to save your hide from being lynched tomorrow.
4. Give it up.
 
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST

You're the only one who can scan roles, therefore you're the only one who can know who the one with the kill role is.

also, I'm a townie because my night actions are completely used up. If you don't believe me, Lynch me and say GG to the rest of the town for me. I. Dare. You.
 
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST

the one with the kill role
Do I really have to go over this again. Judging from what PMJ said last night, we're dangerously close to losing, so there's most likely three wolves left. I've scanned three people, and we all know DNS and my role, so that leaves three left to be the wolves. There's this quote that throws the whole "only the aplha shows up as a kill role" idea out the window:
PMJ said:
The ability targets _anyone_ who is capable of killing another player via any means
 
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST

So what your'e telling me is you have no clue who the alpha is, and you can't scan allignments, so you don't know for sure if you've scanned wolves or not.
 
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST

What you're telling me is that you know exaclty what I've been saying all this time and are purposefully acting ignorant to make me look bad. I'll humor you.

I don't know who the alpha is and it doesn't matter. I know who the three wolves are, so it doesn't matter who the alpha is. I don't need to scan alignments, either. I know that five people don't have kill roles. That leaves three people and there are three wolves. It's not rocket science.
 
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST

Judging from what PMJ said last night, we're dangerously close to losing, so there's most likely three wolves left. I've scanned three people, and we all know DNS and my role, so that leaves three left to be the wolves.
The other possibility is that you're a wolf and a masterful liar, but I wouldn't vote on something as shallow as that...not unless there was some evidence.
I still don't think you're completely innocent, though, but you've been a tremendous help to the town so far, wolf or not.
 
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST

You want evidence he's a wolf? I want evidence he's a townie. He's asked us to trust absolutely everything he's said without reason so far, and where has that led us? 1 lynch away from GG.

You seriously want me to give up, Cinesra? That's hilarious. You think a townie would give up this close to defeat? You're high. You think a wolf would give up this close to being the victor? You're so high, that I want some of whatever it is you're taking. What that post sounds like to me is "Give up, we've won even though you don't know it yet." That is only something a wolf would post. The town has wone twice. Maybe. You think we'd be arrogant to say "Just give up, your attempts to save yourself are lame?" No. We have to live in fear because we always lose. Only a faction that's won 10/12 times would be that arrogant.

Secondly, Why should we trust you? You can't scan alignments. While one may deem it "broken" for a wolf to have a scanning role, why would a wolf need to scan alignments? He wouldn't, because he'd already know who his teammates were. The only difference is weeding out the indies from the townies, but to wolves it makes no difference. All of them need to die for the wolves to win.

Vote: Cinesra

While I do find it odd RB has survived this long, I do find it even odder that the wolves would let somebody who has the ability to scan abilities and figure out who the wolves are from there live longer. I don't like it.
 
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST

Teapot said:
You want evidence he's a wolf? I want evidence he's a townie. He's asked us to trust absolutely everything he's said without reason so far, and where has that led us? 1 lynch away from GG.
You're partially right. I can't prove I'm a townie, other than it sounds a little OP that a wolf would be able to tell who can kill. PMJ specifically announced that I can't scan for alignments. This wouldn't matter to a wolf because anybody who's not on my team would be an enemy. However, you can't prove I'm a wolf either. You can't seriously think that it's my fault we're one wrong lynch away from losing. Remember when people wanted to lynch corn bread? Remember how I said he was innocent? Remember how that turned out?
You seriously want me to give up, Cinesra? That's hilarious. You think a townie would give up this close to defeat? You're high. You think a wolf would give up this close to being the victor? You're so high, that I want some of whatever it is you're taking.
You sound incredibly desperate and mad. I want you three to give up because I know you're wolves. You must not be able to take getting found out very well because you're making yourself look worse and worse as you continue posting.
What that post sounds like to me is "Give up, we've won even though you don't know it yet." That is only something a wolf would post. The town has wone twice. Maybe. You think we'd be arrogant to say "Just give up, your attempts to save yourself are lame?" No. We have to live in fear because we always lose. Only a faction that's won 10/12 times would be that arrogant.
You obviously haven't seen me play before. I know you three are wolves, so I have every right to tell you to give up. It looks like pressuring you has worked because you look extremely suspicious to me. Me telling you to give up may sound to you like something only a wolf would post is your opinion. I don't live in fear of losing because I believe we always have a chance to beat the wolves. For the first time since I've been playing, I can finally almost touch victory. I'm excited that because of my role, I can actually help the town achieve victory. I made a few mistakes when I was seer two games ago. I want to make up for that by helping the town win when I should've been able to earlier.
Secondly, Why should we trust you? You can't scan alignments. Please tell me why the hell it matters that I can't scan alignments. I've narrowed the list of possible wolves down to three. There are three wolves left. It's not rocket science. That is why I want you to give up. I know who you are and there's no point in fighting it. Spare yourself the inevitable.While one may deem it "broken" for a wolf to have a scanning role, why would a wolf need to scan alignments? He wouldn't, because he'd already know who his teammates were. That's exactly what I've been saying. It's nice to know that we're on the same page...The only difference is weeding out the indies from the townies, but to wolves it makes no difference. All of them need to die for the wolves to win. Why would it matter? What point are you trying to make? I said THE SAME THING earlier. If anything, you just gave evidence as to why I'm not a wolf

Vote: Cinesra

While I do find it odd RB has survived this long, I do find it even odder that the wolves would let somebody who has the ability to scan abilities and figure out who the wolves are from there live longer. I don't like it.
So you're voting for me even though you just gave evidence to my innocence in the last paragraph. You are finally making some sense. I'm not really sure why the wolves have let me live this long. I guess they were under the assumption that I could only find the alpha and weren't afraid of me. Turns out, I am a threat to them. That was a mistake. That is why I will help the town win. That will mean their downfall. That will mean your downfall.


In summary, give it up wolfy-boy.
 
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST

Ok so.

Let's say Cinesra is telling the truth. Ok great, but he can't really help us anymore.

Now let's say he is lying. Well crud that makes everything we believe complete bogus.

Either way, he is not an essential player in my eyes.
Vote: Cinesra
 
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST

Let's say I am telling the truth. How would I not be able to help you? I found out who the three wolves are.

Essential player or not, you still need me. We can't afford to lose any more townies. We're one away from losing to the wolves and you want to lynch me because I'm not "essential".

I'm going to direct you to a post an ask you to please read it. In this post I summarized how I proved who the wolves are. This is irrefutable evidence. Please read the other past few posts because I don't think you really understand what's going on if you, a person I know is a townie, want to lynch me, a person who should be a townie because being a wolf with a confirmed seer role is wrong on multiple levels.
 
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST

Let's say Cinesra is telling the truth. Ok great, but he can't really help us anymore.

Now let's say he is lying. Well crud that makes everything we believe complete bogus.

Either way, he is not an essential player in my eyes.
It doesn't matter if he's essential or not. If a townie is lynched, we lose. That is all there is to it.
Do you really think Cinesra is a wolf, Safari?
 
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST

This day has torn all off my suspicions apart and re-assembled them in strange ways. The people I thought were wolves before now appear more innocent, and vice-versa I'm going to voice out everything I have.

Let's start with Riskbreakers. I definitely over-reacted. I don't know what got into me. There's still the stuff I said, but it's much less credible than I originally thought. But Cinesra is sure he's a wolf. Which brings me to him.

Cinesra, the uncertain seer. We've trusted him the entire game. He's successfully told us that Negeni had a kill role, so we pretty much know he's legit. But there's been some controversy over what side he's on. Now if he's lying, he could easily fake a couple wolves and innocents. This has been claimed because ESP doesn't think ESP's a wolf. He seems really desperate, but that could be easily explained by the point in the game. Now, there's two ways they could both be right. One, we're mistaken on the number of wolves. Or Two, someone who we've always assumed to be innocent isn't.

I already proposed this in a rush this morning. We are certain DNS has a mason role, he's one of the Sensational Sisters. Well, we've had Mason/wolf pairs before. He's been a certain townie because someone(I don't remember who, I think it was DNA) said there's no way a Sensational Sister could be a wolf. Well, I'm sure we'd have also thought there's no way Caroline(Teal) could be an indie. But, she(he) was. Another thing to consider is the re-crowning of the Alpha. The peson who took over was described as being really girlish. Does a Sensational Sister cover it? Well, the first kill of the new Alpha was Guy, another Sensational Sister. One of the reasons we went after Zyflair was because Guy attacked Zyflair, then was killed. Well obviously, that wasn't why. Then why was Guy killed? His vanilla status only lasted three days.(It was Blui's role, I think) The night he was killed was right before he was getting his role back. Maybe the new Alpha didn't think it was safe to have a mason? It all seems to fit.

Meanwhille, Eevee's been real quiet today, and safariblade is posting really stupid stuff. I know my role, and DNA hasn't been an issue at all. Nothing new.
 
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST

He's been a certain townie because someone(I don't remember who, I think it was DNA) said there's no way a Sensational Sister could be a wolf.
I don't think I said that. I said it was highly unlikely, but not impossible.
 
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST

Ok then, tell me the reason he's been exempt from all suspicion.
 
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST

I'd assume his role would've said something about him being able to take over as alpha wolf if he was able to.
 
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST

HypnoticLuxray said:
Ok then, tell me the reason he's been exempt from all suspicion.
He isn't, but based on how the game is going, it would be a bit of a stretch to imagine he is.
Then again, our assumptions that he's been innocent could be exactly why he's still alive.
 
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST

I'd assume his role would've said something about him being able to take over as alpha wolf if he was able to.
No.

PMJ said:
Day 5
Sorry, doubters, but TDL wasn't lying this time. Night 5 begins now and ends Friday, May 25, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST or when I receive all relevant info for the night. Rockets: Stay tuned for the next person to receive the kill ability.


PMJ said:
Sweet Celestia, you guys fail at searching

That's not what it seems like to me. Up to this point, I've never seen anyone question him. Cinesra even said: "We all know dns's role" Well thing is, we actually don't. We've been completely ignoring him from the game, just another innocent townie. I'm challenging that.
 
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST

While it's not impossible, I'd like to add that the sensational sisters aren't the only girls in the Pokemon universe.
 
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