RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST
Oh yay, people are gossiping about me!
In all seriousness, let me peruse this.
Either way we look at this, the wolves have the advantage. :/ We are all fighting amongst ourselves and that is exactly what they want because it allows them to frame all of us.
Exactly. They have the advantage regardless, so the only way I think we have any hope of winning is to lynch a wolf, today.
If I had to choose a lynch right now I would choose DNA. Everyone always seems to follow his lead and I don't see why the wolves haven't lynched him yet. I just really REALLY don't want to be wrong on this, but there's nothing to go on except people's guesses.
I'm...actually not offended at all by this. I also find it weird. But, in the interest of actually trying to win this game, I'd like there to be evidence against me before you guys start voting. If it turns out I'm a townie after all - and I am obviously a townie - then we've screwed up even more.
Are we able to make a "No Lynch" or would that bring us to a loss?
It won't bring us to a loss if we do it today, but all it really does is forestall the inevitable - thus, not a good idea.
Um, what? Please give me a quote that proves this.
I think PMJ said it on one of the prior days. I believe it happened shortly right after TDL died...? I could be mistaken, though. I could have sworn PMJ mentioned it, though. I can look through the thread if you want. It has something to do with TDL's Top Dog ability I think.
@Cinesra From what I can tell, your ability only tells you who can kill, not who is a wolf.
Did Cinesra's ability tell him that Zyflair could kill? Or was it that Zyflair said he could kill but only under specific circumstances? Either way, Zyflair technically can't kill, so I don't know what's up with that.
That's a very lame reason, especially since the same logic can be applied to every townie.
I agree. If I had to think of a reason why the wolves haven't lynched me, then...well, the sad bit is the best reason I can think of is that I am, unwittingly and accidentally, making their job easier. Either that, or they don't see me as much of a threat and they can wait to kill me until later.
I agree with eevee about DNA. I think the wolves aren't killing him because he is instigating kills in their favor. Either that or he is a wolf.
*repeats the above*
Now, in the time that I was not online, I began thinking of who actually might be the most likely to be a wolf. I did not want to go off of just mere suspicion about people's behavior and such; I wanted to try and find good solid reasoning.
And I did manage to come up with a thought; I think
Cinesra is a wolf.
Before I go on, first I'd like to say that I might be totally wrong, for reasons that have been stated previously - I want to go after wolves and I'm accidentally going after townies. That happened with Zyflair and it could very well happen again.
Now I would like to explain my reasoning as to why I think Cinesra is a wolf.
First off, his role. It states that at night he gets to look at someone and see if they have a kill role or not. That's basically correct, if I understand what you've been saying, yes?
I don't doubt the fact that is your role. However, it is possible that you might be using this information in 2 ways: first, to tell the Rockets to see who does (and doesn't) have a killing role, and then act appropriately on it - either kill that person yourself, or (if the Rockets think it's too risky) let the townies kill that person, so they can suffer the consequences. Second, you tell us as well and do the exact same thing. We can try and lynch that person because they can kill, and possibly kill us, which might be more of a bad thing than a good one - or we can give the Rockets the chance and they'll suffer for it.
The end purpose is that you come off as a sort of double agent, while trying to look innocent in being forthcoming with information, we won't end up suspecting you for being helpful and look elsewhere. However, it could just turn out that you're being helpful to the town, and this argument could instead prove your innocence. Either is possible.
Next, picking and choosing who you believe the wolves to be. This could go along with the double agent bit. Going under the assumption that there are 3 wolves (since PMJ said we're in deep trouble, and if there are 3 wolves and today's lynch backfires, we lose), you use process of elimination to determine who the last 3 wolves are, giving us the names of 3 people. This, however, could be a false lead, since if there are 3 wolves you just need to lynch a townie. Odds are that at least 1, maybe even 2 or 3, of the people you mentioned is a townie. But you probably threw a wolf name in there as well so that, in the event we do lynch one of the people you said and that person's a wolf, we'll automatically trust you and proceed to lynch the other two. And then boom, one of them is a townie. We lose. Goes back to the double agent bit.
I'm aware that everything I have said revolves mostly around what you have stated in this thread about your role and what you can find with it, and there isn't exactly a guarantee that any of it is 100% accurate. Plus, I could very well be wrong, even though I'm very sure about this. Yes, I know this is a risky move, but out of the possibilities, it seems to be a lot less risky than trying to look at someone else. I don't really have much evidence against other people.
Thus, I am not going to vote for Cinesra at this time. Rather, Cinesra, I want to hear your defense about how you couldn't be a wolf.
