Finished Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - TOWN WINS

[Puff-Sun]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Posting to give TheGuy a chance to fix his vote on a new line without editing.

So PMJ is pretty clean and KA is as well, but to a lesser extent. since the Cinesra vote is going nowhere, I'll vote just to speed things along.

Unvote: Cinesra
Vote: No Lynch

 

[safariblade]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

C'mon guys stop bandwagoning on no lynch in order to speed up the day.

By choosing speed you are choosing the death of a townie. Let's be aggressive with this.

 

[Meaty]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

C'mon guys stop bandwagoning on no lynch in order to speed up the day.

By choosing speed you are choosing the death of a townie. Let's be aggressive with this.

That's the idea... Puff, unvoting Cinesra really isn't helping our cause, which you seemed to be for until you just gave up. Why haven't you people learned? We lost the last two games, and I'm pretty darn sure that we didn't lynch on the first day of either of those games...

 

[Dork Void]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Well then. With his most recent move Puff has, he's showing himself to be bandwagoning more to try and end the day faster. This is after he was already accused of wolfish behavior by bandwagoning earlier, something he has yet to give a defense to. I'm tempted to actually vote for Puff now because either he's a wolf or a bandwagoner imo, more so than the others because he keeps doing it when its pointed out as suspicious, and neither wolf nor bandwagoner helps us much.

 

[Argetlam]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Okay. The Day ends today! So far we have Cinesra, Teal, Puff, and a couple others that are inactive/noobs/??wolfs??. I don't know why everyone is ignoring a possible clue. I am for voting Cinesra. If the clue is a mistake, then you can lynch me (please don't, as these just are my honest suspicisions.) Does anybody else think this way, or do we not want to elimenate a possible threat early? WE HAVE LESS THAN 1 DAY as of me posting! We need some sort of desicion.

 

[PMJ]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Day ends next Saturday, bro.

 

[Nengeni]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

I'm almost tempted to lynch you for that nice big mistake...
I don't like people who don't triple check things before posting and/or will screw the town later.

 

[Zyflair]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Welp, still a week to go. Safariblade and Argetlam made one derp each. Puff, Bippa, 9tailz, Bisharp, and Glistica are bandwagoners. I particularly am unsettled with Glistica's:

Voting with no evidence is a bad idea.
Vote: No Lynch

I think someone doesn't know how the game works.

 

[HypnoticChairman]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

I'm almost tempted to vote for you, Nengeni, for almost having lynched someone for making an uniformed mistake. That's not some huge mistake that's gonna screw us over. Ever.

 

[Nengeni]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

I'm not "almost having lynched someone"

I'm saying, I would like a game where people check their information before they post it. Thus saving us confusion.

 

[TheGuy]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

By choosing speed you are choosing the death of a townie. Let's be aggressive with this.

By lynching someone you speed to death of the most likely outcome of the death of two townies. Having only one dead with another night's evidence than having two.

 

[PMJ]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

I'm almost tempted to lynch you for that nice big mistake...
I don't like people who don't triple check things before posting and/or will screw the town later.

To be fair, I don't think that's the kind of mistake that's going to screw the town later.

 

[PMJ]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

By lynching someone you speed to death of the most likely outcome of the death of two townies. Having only one dead with another night's evidence than having two.

This argument is flawed because you can use it to justify No Lynch every single Day. As I mentioned before, statistically speaking, we will guess wrong before we guess right. That's just because the town:scum ratio is so heavily skewed in town's favor. That's no reason to not lynch anyone, because the lynch is the town's main weapon to eliminate scum. By voting No Lynch, you're essentially throwing away a chance for the town to do something.

The only time No Lynch should ever be considered is if lynching a townie means a loss for the town. Otherwise, roll the dice.

 

[Zyflair]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

This argument is flawed because you can use it to justify No Lynch every single Day. As I mentioned before, statistically speaking, we will guess wrong before we guess right. That's just because the town:scum ratio is so heavily skewed in town's favor. That's no reason to not lynch anyone, because the lynch is the town's main weapon to eliminate scum. By voting No Lynch, you're essentially throwing away a chance for the town to do something.

The only time No Lynch should ever be considered is if lynching a townie means a loss for the town. Otherwise, roll the dice.

This is probably my lack of experience speaking, but given the uncertainties right now, wouldn't it make sense that we wait just one day and see if we get a bit more info? As of now, the chances of nailing scum on day one is improbable.

 

[Professor Palutena]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

This is probably my lack of experience speaking, but given the uncertainties right now, wouldn't it make sense that we wait just one day and see if we get a bit more info? As of now, the chances of nailing scum on day one is improbable.

If we vote no Lynch, DNA will randomly select a townie to be killed. Chance of a townie being killed: 100%
If we vote for someone, we have a shot at getting a wolf. Chance of a townie being killed: however many townies there are/32 (but not 100% because there are not 32 townies)

Yeah, the odds are not in our favor. But we can still try to get a wolf today. Voting No Lynch says that you aren't willing to try, and after all that has been said, makes me more suspicious of some of you.

 

[Zyflair]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

If we vote no Lynch, DNA will randomly select a townie to be killed. Chance of a townie being killed: 100%

... that's not how I remembered it last game. No Lynch means no one is lynched.

 

[TheGuy]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

This argument is flawed because you can use it to justify No Lynch every single Day. As I mentioned before, statistically speaking, we will guess wrong before we guess right. That's just because the town:scum ratio is so heavily skewed in town's favor. That's no reason to not lynch anyone, because the lynch is the town's main weapon to eliminate scum. By voting No Lynch, you're essentially throwing away a chance for the town to do something.

The only time No Lynch should ever be considered is if lynching a townie means a loss for the town. Otherwise, roll the dice.

Not having any vote lynches a townie 100%.

While No Lynch this early in the game allows us to gather more information so that we can make a sound decision during the next day. The point is that if we have no leads or any evidence against anyone, there is no reason to kill anyone. Someone should only be killed if you actually have something against them. We don't have anything against anyone except for one vague note that we don't even know if it's some sort of clue, most likely it's just someone messing with us. Right now it just looks like you're eager to kill someone and make an irrational decision if you are explicitly against no lynch. What if the wolves could kill some of their own and didn't know who each other were, if it came down to the fact that it was highly probable that they would kill one of their own, would they? Of course not, a random shot in the dark is always a bad idea, no matter for which side. I'd much rather wait to make an informed decision than to vote off one of my own.

 

[PMJ]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

This is probably my lack of experience speaking, but given the uncertainties right now, wouldn't it make sense that we wait just one day and see if we get a bit more info? As of now, the chances of nailing scum on day one is improbable.

Improbable is not zero.

Someone should only be killed if you actually have something against them. We don't have anything against anyone except for one vague note that we don't even know if it's some sort of clue, most likely it's just someone messing with us.

Do you think we'll have enough information for a solid lead on Day 2? If we don't, are you going to advocate for No Lynch until we do?

Right now it just looks like you're eager to kill someone and make an irrational decision if you are explicitly against no lynch.

I am against No Lynch because it robs the town of a chance to take out one of the wolves. We have only so many chances to take out a wolf before it's good game, and we shouldn't squander any of them unless it's vital to our survival.

What if the wolves could kill some of their own

I'm going to stop you there because this would never happen. Wolves killing off their own specifically goes against their win condition. They gain nothing by killing their own members.

I'd much rather wait to make an informed decision than to vote off one of my own.

Of course an informed decision is better than an uninformed one, but we don't have enough information to make an informed decision. Still, that doesn't mean we should throw away this chance.

The only way there is a 100% chance to lynch a townie is if the town lynches a confirmed townie.

 

[Zyflair]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Well, if we're going to lynch someone, and I'm not supposed to lynch out of spite, I'm personally all for voting Glistica, who's being too passive, inactive, and just not contributing in any many. I'm still iffy about the Cinesra/Teal note. If that note was completely rubbish, then we're just going to waste two day lynches on the two.

 

[Riskbreakers]

RE: Werewolf XIII - Gunfire at Dusty Gulch - Day 1 ends Saturday, July 7th, 11.59pm PDT

Everybody can play it safe and give out no leads, will we still vote "no lynch" of course not. Stats don't lie and a no lynch helps the wolves just as much as a lynch does.

I still blame PMJ for introducing the idea of "No Lynch" though. We should have just let random.org do its job lol