Finished Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (OVER)

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RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 8)(D/L 8/25)

TheGuy said:
Fancy,

I can understand your point of view now. But I can hope you understand why I clear Luckyfire. Her survivor claim just leads me to believe that she is an indie. I'd also like to agree with you that voting for/ supporting doesn't necessarily mean that someone is or is not mafia/wolf, but with most of my votes going for mafia and relentless support for their lynches on the majority of occasions, I think we can at least say I'm not apart of the mafia.

For now, I'll back off on my accusations and would like to entertain different ideas.

UNVOTE: Fancy

James86134 said:
First thing:

TheGuy with the wording~


Lets rephrase this with your name:

Obviously, TheGuy was scared of SS and how he got mafia pretty quick.

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It could be used either way, it works. But the thing is:

Chill didn't have access to Internet, you did. Second thing, how could you possibly know how SS died? Soldier could have died because the killer did RNG.

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And with the whole 'scared of SS and how he got mafia'. Serial Killer would also be scared. As they have a killing role, and cannot win unless they survive until THE VERY END. Unlike the town, mafia and wolf, you cannot win unless you yourself win. Which would get rid of some fear that the wolves had, especially considering the number of players alive at that point, compared to scum. This is because, scum can win even if only one of there players are alive.
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Honestly, this post doesn't make any sense at all. I tried to rationalize the ideas of who I thought was the last wolf and why they killed the person they killed. I don't think it's a crime to try to understand your opponent's actions. And why are you bringing up a serial killer? We know that Chillbill/ another wolf made that kill.

Finally, I want to pose you a question. If you thought that Chillbill had no access to the internet, so therefore there should have been no night kill and there was another wolf, why didn't you bring that up a day ago?
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First things first:

Read my posts. I thoroughly believe you are a Serial Killer... And that's why I bring up serial killer. How many times am I going to have to say that?

Second:
You sounded extremely confident in your decision that Chill had killed SS because of fear.

Third:

Your question has no sense involved as it takes things that I am not agreed on. You're putting words in my mouth.

But I'll answer it anyway:

I do think that there should have been a NK. Obviously, with two kills even if the other kill hadn't happened, mafia still would have killed Chillbill. Another thing, why are you saying that I am thinking things that you, yourself have said you believe.

'Finally, I want to pose you a question. If you thought that Chillbill had no access to the internet, so therefore there should have been no night kill and there was another wolf, why didn't you bring that up a day ago?'

When have I ever stated that I thought another wolf was alive? You said that, not me... And now, you're pawning off onto me.

To answer your question, I didn't bring it up a day ago because I hadn't thought properly about the NKs and roles as a hand in hand though. By which I mean, I didn't think about it at all.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 8)(D/L 8/25)

My question probably should have been worded: "If you knew Chillbill didn't have Internet access, therefore he could not make the NK for the wolves, then why didn't you alert us that there was another killer?" I think it makes a bit more sense and isn't as specific. That was the general premise in me asking that question, so I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth. 'I didn't think about it' is a perfectly reasonable answer, I just find it weird that you brought it up today after the fact.

I see, you're trying to say that me rationalizing a wolf kill, means that I would have killed the person for the same reason. Well, duh. Pointing that out really just means that someone could have used that reason to kill SS, just because I said they may have killed this person for this reason doesn't mean I killed that person. It simply states why I think that person was killed. And I seem sure about it because it makes sense and you can't be sure about everything. If you really wanted everyone to not overestimate their different ideas, put probably in front of every accusation. Because if you think that when someone says something they're 100% sure, you're going to have a bad time.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 8)(D/L 8/25)

I think I'll rate people now, since I'm bored.

Aggressiveness Level (1 is high, 10 is low):
Fancy - 8. Seems kinda cool... or should I say fancy?
TheGuy - 6. He's getting a bit frustrated.
James86134 - 5. A tad touch more angry than TheGuy, I guess.
Me - 9. I'm confused.
Drohn - 8. I have no idea.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 8)(D/L 8/25)

Okay, honestly I don't want to vote TheGuy because we have an open dispute between him and James going on, and I'd like to save my vote until it reaches the climax of the argument and I get more insight on who I should vote for and why. So, until then, Luckyfire is the only one who may deliver the hammer vote for him, since I'm not voting, Drohn and James have their vote, and TheGuy wouldn't vote himself.

Luckyfire said:
Fancy - 8. Seems kinda cool... or should I say fancy?
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Fancy indeed. I think all of you guys are fancy as well ^_^
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 8)(D/L 8/25)

Keep in mind that the deadline is on the 25th! (I lost track of the date haaalllppppp)
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 8)(D/L 8/25)

How many hours until this day ends... My timezone is too different for me to even estimate!
Haaaalp!

Please!

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(Does the above line make it look like I edit stuff in after I post, lol)

Anyway,

TheGuy,

While saying something to the effect of 'Chill probably killed SoldiersSpirit because of how quickly Soldiers playstyle killed Haunted Water' may be what you would have been going for when rationalising the kill, you sounded overly confident saying 'OBVIOUSLY, Chill killed SS because of fear'


Lets think about the previous NKs.

Day 1:

, Blui (who was replaced by TheGuy) was active.

Night 1:

Three kills, Blui was active

Day 2:

Blui was active, and town ended up making Glace the obvious kill.

Day 3:

I think that all three kills overlapped on Glace during N2

Night 3:

Blui stopped being active, and only 1 kill a night appeared, sometimes being two.

Skip to Day 7:

TheGuy replaces Blui (I believe) and is active.

Day 8:

We get two kills, right after TheGuy replaces Blui, who has been inactive since the three kills of Glace.

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Coincidence? TheGuy, explanation?
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 8)(D/L 8/25)

Today is the day, if we don't change our vote effective immediately TheGuy is done for. I believe what James was saying about how Blui was inactive and we got less kills because of that until TheGuy showed up...and that seems incredibly suspicious. TheGuy might indeed be a serial killer.

Oh what to do... I could easily vote TheGuy and end this right now...But I still want to hear how he elaborates on this. But...on the other hand, what is there to elaborate on? He couldn't 100% explain why those kills suddenly started showing up around the time he replaced Blui, if he could 100% explain it that would give me reason to doubt him even more...If he is a townie and has no intelligence on the scum team, all he can give is plain and simple guesses.

This is a real conundrum. Camoclone said earlier that townies should use their vote because it's their only weapon and power. But, with power comes great responsibility, and I don't want to be responsible for the death of a townie... But I also can't let a possible serial killer threaten the town. And...TheGuy's death is most likely inevitable no matter what I do, so...I guess....I'm going to do this, to put an end to this unfancy circumstance. Nothing personal, TheGuy!

VOTE: TheGuy
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 8)(D/L 8/25)

Astra made there be three kills night one. Check your facts before you vote.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 8)(D/L 8/25)

I wonder who's going to call game freeze first before SheNinja gets on. Huh, nobody's here. Guess I'll do it.

GAME FREEEEEEEEEEZ- *shot*

...now I'm dead. Might as well continue it.

-ZZZZZZZGLE

:p
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 8)(D/L 8/25)

TheGuy said:
Astra made there be three kills night one. Check your facts before you vote.
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That excuses one day. Its not as if one flaw cancels outt the whole thing, it instead strengthens the argument by cancelling out the fact that a Vigilante couldn't have made any of the kills later.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 8)(D/L 8/25)

James86134 said:
TheGuy said:
Astra made there be three kills night one. Check your facts before you vote.
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That excuses one day. Its not as if one flaw cancels outt the whole thing, it instead strengthens the argument by cancelling out the fact that a Vigilante couldn't have made any of the kills later.
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Night 1 was the only time there was three night kills. All of the other times you just assume that more than one person targeted the same person. Your evidence is extremely weak since there's only one instance of three NK's and that was when Astra, the vigilante, could make the kill.

VOTE: James86134

Because, you know, there's already three votes, but I feel like Fancy's didn't consider the evidence against James' claim, so maybe we'll get an unvote before SheNinja comes and he'll let us continue.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 8)(D/L 8/25)

UNVOTE: TheGuy

Yeah, I think TheGuy is right on this one. I'm even starting to believe he is a townie, and I don't want to see a townie die. So, in light of new evidence, I'm going to do this so TheGuy doesn't get lynched because of the majority vote.

VOTE: James86134

Now, there's a tie between James and TheGuy. ...Luckyfire is the only one who can hammer one of them. And since Luckyfire is trying not to be influenced and vote for townies...I don't think we have to worry about her delivering the hammer vote. But, its still weird, since we left the choice up to someone who isn't even a townie. o.o
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 8)(D/L 8/25)

Note: Me making a tie between James and TheGuy is not discouraging talk between the town. I still want to hear from all of you, that's how the town should move forward.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 8)(D/L 8/25)

My guess is that James is mafia. I mean, he's reading off to me as pretty aggressive now, and his usertitle says wolf. Maybe it's reverse psychology or something.

But that's just my opinion.

VOTE: James86134

I guess I am trying to be not influenced, but you didn't say I couldn't hammer them based off my personal opinions.

GAME FREZGLE
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 8)(D/L 8/25)

All im going to say is that my usertutle is quoting Teal.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 8)(D/L 8/25)

You can keep talking until I post an update.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 8)(D/L 8/25)

~Vote Count 8.2~

TheGuy-[3-LYNCHED] (James86134, Drohn, Fancy)
Fancy-[1] (TheGuy)

Not Voting (1): (Luckyfire)

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. Deadline is 8/25/2013 at 19:00:00 EST.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 8)(D/L 8/25)

TheGuy has been lynched. He was Alpha Werewolf

Night 8 has begun. Deadline is 8/27/2013.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Night 8)(D/L 8/27)

Sorry for the late update, I was at school today for 12 hours.

Luckyfire has been killed. She was Survivor.

Day 9 has begun. I will not place a deadline unless you guys are fartin' around and not discussing.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 9)(D/L N/A)

This is what fartin' around is. doing nothing.
 
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