Finished Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (OVER)

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RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 1) (D/L 6/20)

I'm suspicious about how willing RaichuGirl is to reveal her role... I think she's lying.

VOTE: RaichuGirl
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 1) (D/L 6/20)

>chocolate townies

sheninja is clearly racist, and racist people are scum.

vote sheninja


also I bet raichu is lying about being vanilla. let's see how the day develops though
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 1) (D/L 6/20)

Alright something is up... You clearly don't claim VT D1 at the start of the day. More than anything this is most likely a wolf tactic. Then the apparently good player James claims VT too. No good player would do something like that.
Vote:James 86134
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 1) (D/L 6/20)

~Vote Count 1.2~

Sir Taco-[1] (Astra)
Flys Gone 2071-[1] (Machamp the Champion)
Astra-[1] (pokemeister899)
ChillBill-[1] (James86134)
RaichuGirl-[1] (Hegafire0)
James86134-[1] (camoclone)

Not Voting (21): RaichuGirl, Haunted Water, PMJ, Flys Gone 2071, Blui, Sir Taco, Glace, ChillBill, MDL, King Arceus, Shocker, Chillarmy, Bisharp37, Jay, Teal, sillykyle, RogueChomp, Lemonnade, TwistedTurtwig, Rally, {27-slot}

With 27 alive, it takes 14 to lynch. Deadline is 6/20/2013 at 19:00:00 PM EST.

Actively searching for the last player (slot 27).

Please "/confirm" by PM before you post in-thread if you haven't already.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 1) (D/L 6/20)

camoclone said:
Alright something is up... You clearly don't claim VT D1 at the start of the day.

Why not? I don't understand why I wouldn't claim.
 
Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 1) (D/L 6/20)

RaichuGirl said:
camoclone said:
Alright something is up... You clearly don't claim VT D1 at the start of the day.

Why not? I don't understand why I wouldn't claim.

Would you claim in any other town role? Of course not! VT is no different. Also when you claim VT it allows the wolves to cross you off their NK list. Making it easier to find power roles. You and James are playing against your win conditions if you are town but I have a feeling that you guys are wolves. Town never claims unless they are close to a lynch. You and James are a scum team.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 1) (D/L 6/20)

camoclone said:
RaichuGirl said:
Why not? I don't understand why I wouldn't claim.

Would you claim in any other town role? Of course not! VT is no different. Also when you claim VT it allows the wolves to cross you off their NK list. Making it easier to find power roles. You and James are playing against your win conditions if you are town but I have a feeling that you guys are wolves. Town never claims unless they are close to a lynch. You and James are a scum team.

No, I wouldn't, but that's because I'd have something to hide from the wolves. I don't with this role. Plus, for all the wolves know I could have a power role, but I'm claiming Vanilla to try and not seem like a threat. Personally I don't think I'm playing against my win condition, because I knew once I revealed, the wolves would start going after me, thinking they could get an easy lynch. Way to put yourself right up on top of my scum list.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 1) (D/L 6/20)

RaichuGirl said:
camoclone said:
Would you claim in any other town role? Of course not! VT is no different. Also when you claim VT it allows the wolves to cross you off their NK list. Making it easier to find power roles. You and James are playing against your win conditions if you are town but I have a feeling that you guys are wolves. Town never claims unless they are close to a lynch. You and James are a scum team.

No, I wouldn't, but that's because I'd have something to hide from the wolves. I don't with this role. Plus, for all the wolves know I could have a power role, but I'm claiming Vanilla to try and not seem like a threat. Personally I don't think I'm playing against my win condition, because I knew once I revealed, the wolves would start going after me, thinking they could get an easy lynch. Way to put yourself right up on top of my scum list.
So your helping the wolves PR hunt... Congrats! Nice job scum.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 1) (D/L 6/20)

camoclone said:
RaichuGirl said:
No, I wouldn't, but that's because I'd have something to hide from the wolves. I don't with this role. Plus, for all the wolves know I could have a power role, but I'm claiming Vanilla to try and not seem like a threat. Personally I don't think I'm playing against my win condition, because I knew once I revealed, the wolves would start going after me, thinking they could get an easy lynch. Way to put yourself right up on top of my scum list.
So your helping the wolves PR hunt... Congrats! Nice job scum.

how'd you get that from my response? =.=
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 1) (D/L 6/20)

RaichuGirl said:
camoclone said:
So your helping the wolves PR hunt... Congrats! Nice job scum.

how'd you get that from my response? =.=
You claimed VT meaning that if your town the wolves won't kill you making it easier for them to kill PR's. Alos if I read scum to you why no vote on me? Only scum watches there vote carefully. Nice try trying to clear yourself scum.


Unvote: James86134
Vote: RaichuGirl



(I didn't edit I posted again) Man I hate pokebeach software. Now this will show up as a 3rd edit :(.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 1) (D/L 6/20)

I believe that RG's move was scummy but I believe James made a scmmier move. With 2 VT out, he was asking for the other VT to claim. Camoclone is definitely suspicious. Wolves don't "save" their vote. You can easily be a wolf while changing votes all the time and you can be a town without changing votes (it's personal playstyle). If you consider RG to be scummier, why don't you vote her instead of James?
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 1) (D/L 6/20)

Flys Gone 2071 said:
I believe that RG's move was scummy but I believe James made a scmmier move. With 2 VT out, he was asking for the other VT to claim. Camoclone is definitely suspicious. Wolves don't "save" their vote. You can easily be a wolf while changing votes all the time and you can be a town without changing votes (it's personal playstyle). If you consider RG to be scummier, why don't you vote her instead of James?
Wolves do "save" their vote. Town's biggest weapon is their vote so they use it frequently. Also note I actually did vote RG.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 1) (D/L 6/20)

I can confirm James as town. Sheninja sent the PM to himself and then BBC'd me, James, and one other member whose name I will not mention at this time.
 
Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 1) (D/L 6/20)

King Arceus said:
I can confirm James as town. Sheninja sent the PM to himself and then BBC'd me, James, and one other member whose name I will not mention at this time.
Neighbors?
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 1) (D/L 6/20)

camoclone said:
Flys Gone 2071 said:
I believe that RG's move was scummy but I believe James made a scmmier move. With 2 VT out, he was asking for the other VT to claim. Camoclone is definitely suspicious. Wolves don't "save" their vote. You can easily be a wolf while changing votes all the time and you can be a town without changing votes (it's personal playstyle). If you consider RG to be scummier, why don't you vote her instead of James?
Wolves do "save" their vote. Town's biggest weapon is their vote so they use it frequently. Also note I actually did vote RG.

Wolves can manipulate the lynch in their favor. You voted for RG in you double post.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 1) (D/L 6/20)

King Arceus said:
I can confirm James as town. Sheninja sent the PM to himself and then BBC'd me, James, and one other member whose name I will not mention at this time.

Are you guys masons then? Because otherwise, that must have been a mistake, and you guys got an unfair advantage, as far as I can tell.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 1) (D/L 6/20)

Flys Gone 2071 said:
camoclone said:
Wolves do "save" their vote. Town's biggest weapon is their vote so they use it frequently. Also note I actually did vote RG.

Wolves can manipulate the lynch in their favor. You voted for RG in you double post.
Wolves may "manipulate" the vote however town controls it for the most part. You are acting as if your vote isn't your only weapon. Are you a wolf? You act as if your vote isn't important. Why?
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 1) (D/L 6/20)

camoclone said:
RaichuGirl said:
how'd you get that from my response? =.=
You claimed VT meaning that if your town the wolves won't kill you making it easier for them to kill PR's. Alos if I read scum to you why no vote on me? Only scum watches there vote carefully. Nice try trying to clear yourself scum.

You're accusations are beginning to sound desperate, Camoclone. Your accusations are becoming weaker and weaker. Plus I always vote carefully, look at everygame on pokebeach I've played. (I was a wolf in two of them so tat's not a very good example, but I'm not one to rush into voting). I like to see how people react to my posts before I cast the vote (70% chance you're going to claim this is a wolf tactic, but it's really not, it's just something I do.)

Think about my reveal - it was straight away, revealling my vanilla towness - a role tat is very hard to prove because you can literally do nothing with it (Except vote and be an extra body against the wolves). Because I have little to no way of defending myself (except being seered, or copped or watched, in which I wouldn't want them to reveal to prove my innocents unless they're really sure they want to), I'm a prime target fr the wolves to get an easy lynch. I revealled my role in order to try and bate wolves into targeting me due to them trying to take the opportunity of the easy lynch. (And let's face it, what wolf wouldn't want an easy lynch).

Three people have taken the bate, you PMJ and Hegafire0. Hegafire is pretty knew to this, I believe and seems to be eager to try to help the town. I don't get a wolf vibe of him. I get a neutral feeling about PMJ currently, but I'm leaning towards town. PMJ's very experienced in this game, so it's reasonable to doubt my claim, even if his doubt is misplaced.

You on the other hand, are way to eager to vote with no evidence. Honestly, there are eight potential VTs, more than any other role, and when James came out as town (following my lead probably, I think you may have wanted to keep that a secret for now, as I just came out as an attempt to draw scum out) you didn't hesitate to cast a vote. Now your falsely accusing me of trying to harm the town by using my Vanilla role in the only way I can think of - to draw out scum. Your posts are becoming more and more desperate as I continue to post, and some of your logic makes little sense.

I will place my vote now though, as your last post made me feel that you have a 80%+ chance of being scum rather than the 65% I believed when you first started irrationally accusing me.

Vote Camoclone
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 1) (D/L 6/20)

TwistedTurtwig said:
King Arceus said:
I can confirm James as town. Sheninja sent the PM to himself and then BBC'd me, James, and one other member whose name I will not mention at this time.

Are you guys masons then? Because otherwise, that must have been a mistake, and you guys got an unfair advantage, as far as I can tell.

We are not. Sheninja is the one who did it, so I will let him decide what he wants to do about it. Not that I have an important role anyway.
 
RE: Werewolf XVII II: The Greatest Idea (Day 1) (D/L 6/20)

TwistedTurtwig said:
King Arceus said:
I can confirm James as town. Sheninja sent the PM to himself and then BBC'd me, James, and one other member whose name I will not mention at this time.

Are you guys masons then? Because otherwise, that must have been a mistake, and you guys got an unfair advantage, as far as I can tell.
I agree it is an unfair advantage if they are not neighbors however you wolf slipped. You say "you guys" which means that you are on a different team then us. Nice wolf slip.
 
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