Finished Werewolf XX: Seleno City

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RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 5 ends Saturday March 1 at 11 AM EST

I still think Darclord is wolf. I never played this game, so maybe I'm wrong.
But Eron also suspicious, he usually not this dumb in other thread.
I think TheGuy also suspicious, but I'm more neutral in this.

We have 17 alive people. 2 died wolf, 1 died indie with night kill ability. I think it's safe for speculative lynch, we always did a speculative lynch though.

[v]Eron[/v]
 
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Celever said:
Why should we lynch a townie to skip a night phase? The mafia don't get to use their kill, but the village can't use their PRs. TheGuy is almost definitely town role if he is telling the truth.
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Isn't the whole point of this game to assume that people aren't?
 
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alex said:
Celever said:
Why should we lynch a townie to skip a night phase? The mafia don't get to use their kill, but the village can't use their PRs. TheGuy is almost definitely town role if he is telling the truth.
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Isn't the whole point of this game to assume that people aren't?
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If that was the case everyone would start claiming werewolf.

The point of this game, as far as I am concerned, is to pick which info you trust and act accordingly from it. No point killing him today, his role appears to be a little better late game anyway.
 
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Celever said:
alex said:
Isn't the whole point of this game to assume that people aren't?
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If that was the case everyone would start claiming werewolf.

The point of this game, as far as I am concerned, is to pick which info you trust and act accordingly from it. No point killing him today, his role appears to be a little better late game anyway.
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You can't just trust a role because it sounds like a town role... If he was a wolf he would have made it like that for that very reason! We have 0 reason to trust TheGuy, and a very good reason not to.
 
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Sorry for the double post, I just have to add these next two points:

Chaos made his daily message with the assumption that he would be alive today, as anyone does. Given that he is a seer, there is a very good possibility that he saw something incriminating - why else would he say to interrogate him? Saying "interrogate TheGuy", he gives himself a perfect excuse to push on TheGuy without needing to out himself as a seer.

And on top of this, if we lynch TheGuy and it turns out he isn't lying, it won't even hurt us! The wolves don't get their nightly kill, and as I showed in my earlier post that extremely benefits us. And while it is a good point that it also skips our PRs from using their abilities - how many do we really have left? We've lost like 3 seers, I doubt we really have (m)any left and if we do it would be a small enough number to still keep it a good option to lynch TheGuy.
 
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Please think about this guys. We could kill a mafia today, have a night kill on a villager and lynch another mafia tomorrow, or we could lynch a town today, skip the night kill and lynch a mafia tomorrow. In two days we get far more progress by not lynching theguy than we get by killing him.
 
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Celever said:
Please think about this guys. We could kill a mafia today, have a night kill on a villager and lynch another mafia tomorrow, or we could lynch a town today, skip the night kill and lynch a mafia tomorrow. In two days we get far more progress by not lynching theguy than we get by killing him.
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I would really like to know why you are so 100% convinced that TheGuy is town...
 
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I am not by any means 100% that he is town! but lynching him right now really doesn't make sense when we have better targets. I have explained why, it is simple game theory.
 
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We have better targets? You mean a "newb wolf", which has always been one of the worst scumtells in the game? Compared to lynching someone who we were directed to by a confirmed town seer? Who also has an ability that gives us almost 0 drawback from lynching him, whether he flips wolf or not?
 
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I feel the need to remind people of something here. By no means are CJ's results even accurate. He could only see theguy's actions, not his alignment.
Alex I have already said that I feel MTC is a better lynch than Eron, I asked the towns opinion on it but you were all too wrapped up in trying to get theguy lynched, which is blatantly stupid in terms of game theory and basic common sense. I out the numbers above, I shouldn't have to say it again. An OC game which I am playing on another site just got the town in an almost definite losing position thanks to messing a round trying to prove claims etc. with lynches and not hammering down quickly enough onto the mafia which was a noob mistake on the village leader's part. Don't make the same mistake guys.
 
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lovandra said:
I still think Darclord is wolf. I never played this game, so maybe I'm wrong.
But Eron also suspicious, he usually not this dumb in other thread.
I think TheGuy also suspicious, but I'm more neutral in this.

We have 17 alive people. 2 died wolf, 1 died indie with night kill ability. I think it's safe for speculative lynch, we always did a speculative lynch though.

[v]Eron[/v]
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Of course I am dumb in this... I don't know the plot of this game. Idk what's going on.
I'm trying to get it.
 
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Eron every time you post something like that you look scummier and scummier lol. Stop dwelling on the fact that you're new and try to help the village on some way, PLEASE.
 
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Celever said:
I feel the need to remind people of something here. By no means are CJ's results even accurate. He could only see theguy's actions, not his alignment.
Alex I have already said that I feel MTC is a better lynch than Eron, I asked the towns opinion on it but you were all too wrapped up in trying to get theguy lynched, which is blatantly stupid in terms of game theory and basic common sense. I out the numbers above, I shouldn't have to say it again. An OC game which I am playing on another site just got the town in an almost definite losing position thanks to messing a round trying to prove claims etc. with lynches and not hammering down quickly enough onto the mafia which was a newbie mistake on the village leader's part. Don't make the same mistake guys.
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You want to lynch Machamp? Am I missing something here? Why do you suddenly want Machamp lynched? Not only do I see the lack of any reason whatsoever, Chaos Jackal, a confirmed town seer (only one step down from a regular seer), listed him as extremely town-like. Not only is Chaos currently the only confirmed town that we have who's opinions we also have, he was also a seer which puts a lot more weight in his lists given he may have seen abilities of people.

Also, given that your vote is currently on Eron, I'm a little confused when you say "I feel MTC is a better lynch than Eron".

And for some reason you still don't seem to understand anything about why TheGuy would be a good lynch whether he flipped wolf or not so I'm just going to give up on you and hope that the rest of the town will be enough to get him lynched.
 
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Celever said:
Eron every time you post something like that you look scummier and scummier lol. Stop dwelling on the fact that you're new and try to help the village on some way, PLEASE.
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That's the point Celever...

Btw, no one told me if TheGuy is Town. Is he?
 
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Celever said:
Eron every time you post something like that you look scummier and scummier lol. Stop dwelling on the fact that you're new and try to help the village on some way, PLEASE.
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That is not the post of a scum! That is the post of a player new to Werewolf who was recently subbed in the middle of a game and thus has no idea what is happening!
 
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alex said:
Celever said:
Eron every time you post something like that you look scummier and scummier lol. Stop dwelling on the fact that you're new and try to help the village on some way, PLEASE.
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That is not the post of a scum! That is the post of a player new to Werewolf who was recently subbed in the middle of a game and thus has no idea what is happening!
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Thank you alex, you know my situation.

Nvm, I read your post, and I saw that you don't know if TheGuy is Town or Wolf, we can lynch him and avoid night, night is bad for us.
 
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 5 ends Saturday March 1 at 11 AM EST

Ugh Alex why are you saying things like "suddenly"? Please read the thread carefully..

And as I am on an iPad I won't reiterate my points right now because typing on the iPad is hard enough as it is. Read back a couple of pages and you'll see I went on this whole thing about it resulting in an Eron bw instead of on MTC, as I listed both as being scummy.

Please stop talking about CJ as of he is some kind of god. He is a semi-seer. He doesn't even see alliances, not even the names of the characters, he just sees one of their roles. He may have just thought that this particular role was quite scummy, as I know many of you guys will not have heard of the role from epic mafia, CJ will likely be included in this. Yes, he had OPINIONS, but he didn't know the setup of the game. Opinions are just that, they are not fact and shouldn't be something to use as concrete evidence to lynch someone, period. Now, scum reads are very important in mafia because it lets us know what individual players are thinking in the game and we can make connections. We can't just get one confirmed towns reads and say "lynch this guy CJ thought he was scum" because he had no way of knowing such a thing.
 
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 5 ends Saturday March 1 at 11 AM EST

Celever, I read your posts again, and I don't understand why you're voting for Eron when you think I'm the best lynch.

Sorry for the short, uninteresting post. I was planning on making a longer one, but I have to leave for a few hours. Later I will post something more helpful.
 
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 5 ends Saturday March 1 at 11 AM EST

I get it. Your scumreads (you are not confirmed town btw...) are better than the confirmed town ability seer's scumreads.

And then refer back to the point that nothing bad happens if we lynch TheGuy and he's town.
 
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