Finished Werewolf XX: Seleno City
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RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 9 ends Thursday April 24 at 8 PM EST
Kecleon.
VOTE: Kecleon-X
He's on the list of unconfirmed town, if he is a wolf he can potentially tamper with Drohn's ability, and in my opinion he's acted quite scummy as of late.
Eron said:
Kecleon.
VOTE: Kecleon-X
He's on the list of unconfirmed town, if he is a wolf he can potentially tamper with Drohn's ability, and in my opinion he's acted quite scummy as of late.
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 9 ends Thursday April 24 at 8 PM EST
^ Wow, such bandwagon, very vote, many post
(I had to. I regret nothing)
^ Wow, such bandwagon, very vote, many post
(I had to. I regret nothing)
Drohn said:That logic IS being applied to all possible wolves. It's how we will win. I "magnet" you first, because you are the only possible wolf that can risk us losing with your ability. Do you recommend we take out the non-threatening possible wolves first? Where is your logic in that? If I were a wolf, why would I use my actual role as my farce one? If I thought it would make me look suspicious, I would change it. Besides, I still don't know what you're afraid of. I use the ability once on someone I think is going to be a threat (i.e. not you), open a bottle of whiskey and have a good day (Jurassic Park reference). I still don't get why you see me as a threat. It's like arresting the guy with the gun in the room just because he has a gun.Kecleon-X said:
Here you can find my sister's role (and how she died in my arms): http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thread-active-werewolf-xx-seleno-city-day-9-ends-thursday-april-24-at-8-pm-est?pid=2591426#pid2591426
Me being wolf and camo being town wouldn't make any sense, but if there is doubt about my role I'm sure it will be removed the next morning when I'm likely eaten and when the person I seer has their role publicly revealed due to my ability. I never said you were. I was just wanting a refresher.
I'm glad you're okay with this plan. To me it seemed like you weren't before. If you really are town at least you'll still win despite being lynched today. Wait, that's how that works?
Right now your ability is not needed for us to win, since the confirmed town are a majority. Letting it exist amongst possible wolves is an unneeded and illogical risk to take in my opinion. My previous point still stands. If I were a wolf, I wouldn't even tell you I had such an ability. I would come up with another role and just say that I had that one repeatedly, muttering of your ignorance of simple "facts". And then get lynched.
Arguing over it is pointless. All four possible wolves will claim to be town. There is no way we can know for sure whom to believe, so the smartest thing to do is to take out the threats and continue lynching the possibles until both wolves hidden in it are gone. This I agree with, though I just don't think that lynching a possibly helpful role would be a good idea. I mean, sure, I could target a Townie accidentally, but that just means that I cleared them as not the alpha. C'mon, man. You're making a big mistake.
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 9 ends Thursday April 24 at 8 PM EST
^ Even so, it honestly doesn't matter if what Drohn said is true about me still winning in the team victory even if I die. I didn't see anything that stated such a thing in the OP, so I'm going to wait on TT to clarify that. If what he said is true, then I'm voting for myself.
By the way, guys, just to get this out there. I'm vouching for RaichuGirl's Town alignment. We're in a mason group.
^ Even so, it honestly doesn't matter if what Drohn said is true about me still winning in the team victory even if I die. I didn't see anything that stated such a thing in the OP, so I'm going to wait on TT to clarify that. If what he said is true, then I'm voting for myself.
By the way, guys, just to get this out there. I'm vouching for RaichuGirl's Town alignment. We're in a mason group.
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 9 ends Thursday April 24 at 8 PM EST
Heck, if you read your wincon it says that you win if at least one town guy is alive when all the threats are gone.
bro you even hosted a spinoff game
But wait. Whoa. You were a mason group this whole time and didn't bring it up until now!?
Heck, if you read your wincon it says that you win if at least one town guy is alive when all the threats are gone.
But wait. Whoa. You were a mason group this whole time and didn't bring it up until now!?
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 9 ends Thursday April 24 at 8 PM EST
Yeah, I didn't want the wolves to know. Raichu can vouch for my claim (when she returns from... Well, wherever.). But since I'm going to be lynched, I thought it would be a good idea to bring everything up so you don't lynch two town in a row.
Yeah, I didn't want the wolves to know. Raichu can vouch for my claim (when she returns from... Well, wherever.). But since I'm going to be lynched, I thought it would be a good idea to bring everything up so you don't lynch two town in a row.
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 9 ends Thursday April 24 at 8 PM EST
Wait a minute, I'm not voting for myself. That'd be stupid. Raichu and I are both town. Process of elimination dictates that r3versor and reinforce are the wolves, unless Raichu has been lying to me, which could be possible.
Wait a minute, I'm not voting for myself. That'd be stupid. Raichu and I are both town. Process of elimination dictates that r3versor and reinforce are the wolves, unless Raichu has been lying to me, which could be possible.
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 9 ends Thursday April 24 at 8 PM EST
Kecleon-X doesn't know the town's win condition. Enough said.
Since I'll be eaten tomorrow I'll say it now:
If Kecleon is town (0,00000....0%) he is probably being honest and RG is safe. If Kecleon is wolf he knows anyone he protects will be under suspicion. He could be saying this in the hopes of us thinking he'll lie too, though.
SO if Kecleon is wolf:
I'll Seer RG tonight to see if his claim is true. Meanwhile, can you role block either Reinforce or rev3rsor, Porygon-X? I think Reinforce's claim was good so I would go for role blocking rev3rsor. If we get no kill, rev3rsor is wolf. If RG is wolf it will be revealed from my ability. If we have a kill and RG is cleared from my seer ability, Reinforce is the remaining wolf.
It could still be that Reinforce now doesn't want to kill to get people to suspect rev3rsor, so in case there is no kill and rev3rsor shows as town when we lynch him, Reinforce should be next.
So change the previous lynch list based on the results of the plan. ^
Kecleon-X doesn't know the town's win condition. Enough said.
Since I'll be eaten tomorrow I'll say it now:
If Kecleon is town (0,00000....0%) he is probably being honest and RG is safe. If Kecleon is wolf he knows anyone he protects will be under suspicion. He could be saying this in the hopes of us thinking he'll lie too, though.
SO if Kecleon is wolf:
I'll Seer RG tonight to see if his claim is true. Meanwhile, can you role block either Reinforce or rev3rsor, Porygon-X? I think Reinforce's claim was good so I would go for role blocking rev3rsor. If we get no kill, rev3rsor is wolf. If RG is wolf it will be revealed from my ability. If we have a kill and RG is cleared from my seer ability, Reinforce is the remaining wolf.
It could still be that Reinforce now doesn't want to kill to get people to suspect rev3rsor, so in case there is no kill and rev3rsor shows as town when we lynch him, Reinforce should be next.
So change the previous lynch list based on the results of the plan. ^
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 9 ends Thursday April 24 at 8 PM EST
"If Kecleon is wolf he knows anyone he protects will be under suspicion. "
With this I mean he may be using this to protect the actual wolf by acting as if he works with RG, but like I said, RG can also be the real wolf and he wants us to think he's lying. My ability should reveal it in the next morning.
"If Kecleon is wolf he knows anyone he protects will be under suspicion. "
With this I mean he may be using this to protect the actual wolf by acting as if he works with RG, but like I said, RG can also be the real wolf and he wants us to think he's lying. My ability should reveal it in the next morning.
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 9 ends Thursday April 24 at 8 PM EST
Claiming a mason partner is very risky as a wolf as you basically hand your partner to the town if you flip scum. RG is as good as dead tomorrow if Kecleon flips scum, and she's pretty much cleared if Kecleon flips town. We'll know who the scum is regardless with a Kecleon-X lynch. Coo coo.
That being said, I really don't buy the mason claim since it happened so freaking late in the day that I dunno what positive things to think about it. Coo coo
Claiming a mason partner is very risky as a wolf as you basically hand your partner to the town if you flip scum. RG is as good as dead tomorrow if Kecleon flips scum, and she's pretty much cleared if Kecleon flips town. We'll know who the scum is regardless with a Kecleon-X lynch. Coo coo.
That being said, I really don't buy the mason claim since it happened so freaking late in the day that I dunno what positive things to think about it. Coo coo
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 9 ends Thursday April 24 at 8 PM EST
She'll vouch for me -- trust me. We've been in this group since... Day one, I think. We've been working together ever since. Teal was also in that group, but he's dead. Also, on the note of me not knowing the town's win condition, it's not like I memorize my entire role PM or anything. I legitimately forgot who and what I did earlier in the game and had to look at my role.
I can even tell you what role she has: On even nights, she can target people and she is told who they targeted and who targeted them. That night, she picked my brother and told her that he targeted me. On another night, she targeted either Grant or Celever (not sure which since it goes both ways) and saw that Grant targeted Celever. She hasn't been altogether active as of late (the last six messages on the QT are mine), but either way, we're town.
I could also be using reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse psychology.
Drohn said:
She'll vouch for me -- trust me. We've been in this group since... Day one, I think. We've been working together ever since. Teal was also in that group, but he's dead. Also, on the note of me not knowing the town's win condition, it's not like I memorize my entire role PM or anything. I legitimately forgot who and what I did earlier in the game and had to look at my role.
I can even tell you what role she has: On even nights, she can target people and she is told who they targeted and who targeted them. That night, she picked my brother and told her that he targeted me. On another night, she targeted either Grant or Celever (not sure which since it goes both ways) and saw that Grant targeted Celever. She hasn't been altogether active as of late (the last six messages on the QT are mine), but either way, we're town.
I could also be using reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse psychology.
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 9 ends Thursday April 24 at 8 PM EST
@Porygon-X: Ok, we can at least try. If nothing else it might prevent a possible wolf from using an ability we don't know anything about. You can at least see if the role block worked, right? If you get a message that it didn't work it probably still means he's wolf and we can follow the same plan.
Okay. Anyways..Kecleon-X said:
@Porygon-X: Ok, we can at least try. If nothing else it might prevent a possible wolf from using an ability we don't know anything about. You can at least see if the role block worked, right? If you get a message that it didn't work it probably still means he's wolf and we can follow the same plan.
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 9 ends Thursday April 24 at 8 PM EST
VOTE: Kecleon-X
so you guys arent picking reinforce for any negative action right tonite.. I hope not for tonight. Doing an experiment on my role to him
5 half the way to my shut up point
VOTE: Kecleon-X
so you guys arent picking reinforce for any negative action right tonite.. I hope not for tonight. Doing an experiment on my role to him
5 half the way to my shut up point
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 9 ends Thursday April 24 at 8 PM EST
What is your role? Or can we not know yet? I trust you're town so I don't mind if you don't want to share yet. Don't do anything that role blocks him, though. Porygon-X is role blocking rev3rsor. If both him and rev3rsor get role blocked we won't know which one of them is the wolf if we don't get a wolf kill. I trust Reinforce more, since his story makes more sense, but I don't want to base it on trust. RaichuGirl can also be the wolf (depending on how many times Kecleon is going reverse with his reverse psychology), but if that is the case we'll find out when I reveal her role.
Also @ TwistedTurtwig: We should have a majority vote now, right? Since camoclone unlocked my second ability (my vote counting for 2). Since day might end soon I'll repeat the plan once more in case I can't tomorrow:
If Kecleon is wolf, there is one wolf left amongst RaichuGirl, rev3rsor, and Reinforce. My ability should identify one of them.
If my reveal shows RaichuGirl is wolf, lynch her.
If RG is town and there is NO wolf kill, lynch rev3rsor. He will likely be the wolf, since Porygon will role block him (although this might fail).
If she is town and there IS a wolf kill, it could either mean Reinforce is the wolf or that we really can't role block an alpha wolf and rev3rsor is the wolf. TwistedTurtwig, without revealing roles of course, can you tell us if it's possible to role block an alpha wolf from killing us? If your answer is we can't role block I suggest we lynch rev3rsor then Reinforce. If we CAN role block, it means there was a kill despite rev3rsor being role blocked, meaning Reinforce is the wolf.
UNLIKELY, but if Kecleon is town lynch rev3rsor, Reinforce, and RaichuGirl if that didn't kill both wolves (in the unlikely case Kecleon is honest, but RG tricked him).
Stick to this and don't vote for confirmed town and we should win!
#KingAdrianHasFaithInHisPeople
What is your role? Or can we not know yet? I trust you're town so I don't mind if you don't want to share yet. Don't do anything that role blocks him, though. Porygon-X is role blocking rev3rsor. If both him and rev3rsor get role blocked we won't know which one of them is the wolf if we don't get a wolf kill. I trust Reinforce more, since his story makes more sense, but I don't want to base it on trust. RaichuGirl can also be the wolf (depending on how many times Kecleon is going reverse with his reverse psychology
), but if that is the case we'll find out when I reveal her role. huh?GM DracLord said:
Also @ TwistedTurtwig: We should have a majority vote now, right? Since camoclone unlocked my second ability (my vote counting for 2). Since day might end soon I'll repeat the plan once more in case I can't tomorrow:
If Kecleon is wolf, there is one wolf left amongst RaichuGirl, rev3rsor, and Reinforce. My ability should identify one of them.
If my reveal shows RaichuGirl is wolf, lynch her.
If RG is town and there is NO wolf kill, lynch rev3rsor. He will likely be the wolf, since Porygon will role block him (although this might fail).
If she is town and there IS a wolf kill, it could either mean Reinforce is the wolf or that we really can't role block an alpha wolf and rev3rsor is the wolf. TwistedTurtwig, without revealing roles of course, can you tell us if it's possible to role block an alpha wolf from killing us? If your answer is we can't role block I suggest we lynch rev3rsor then Reinforce. If we CAN role block, it means there was a kill despite rev3rsor being role blocked, meaning Reinforce is the wolf.
UNLIKELY, but if Kecleon is town lynch rev3rsor, Reinforce, and RaichuGirl if that didn't kill both wolves (in the unlikely case Kecleon is honest, but RG tricked him).
Stick to this and don't vote for confirmed town and we should win!
#KingAdrianHasFaithInHisPeople
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 9 ends Thursday April 24 at 8 PM EST
I'm holding my vote because kecleon's got enough votes anyway (I think), and because I want to wait for RG to confirm whether the group is legit or not, just in case kecleon's actually town. (but at this stage it seems unlikely given what's happened today.)
Also I think draclord means he can post up to 10 times a day (halfway there until he has to stop talking, is what I'm understanding).
I'm holding my vote because kecleon's got enough votes anyway (I think), and because I want to wait for RG to confirm whether the group is legit or not, just in case kecleon's actually town. (but at this stage it seems unlikely given what's happened today.)
Also I think draclord means he can post up to 10 times a day (halfway there until he has to stop talking, is what I'm understanding).
RE: Werewolf XX: Seleno City - Day 9 ends Thursday April 24 at 8 PM EST
Ah, thanks. That makes sense now, haha. I didn't know there were things like post limitations in WW.
RG's role will be revealed by my ability. She hasn't been online so I don't see a point in waiting for it. Even if RaichuGirl backs Kecleon up, it can mean that they are both the wolves that are now desperate enough to work together publicly. We'll find out by lynching Kecleon and by using my ability on RG! It's the best route to take. The wolves might as well give up at this point to be honest.
I still have one doubt about Porygon-X. I'm sure you're not a wolf since you got attacked by one, but not being able to get wolf killed plus being able to role block seems like an overpowered ability for a regular town. You might be indie, I don't know. Since you seem to work with us I'm guessing you're not a threatening one and we can win/work together. You might be a regular town with a super awesome ability, though..
Ah, thanks. That makes sense now, haha. I didn't know there were things like post limitations in WW.
RG's role will be revealed by my ability. She hasn't been online so I don't see a point in waiting for it. Even if RaichuGirl backs Kecleon up, it can mean that they are both the wolves that are now desperate enough to work together publicly. We'll find out by lynching Kecleon and by using my ability on RG!
It's the best route to take. The wolves might as well give up at this point to be honest.I still have one doubt about Porygon-X. I'm sure you're not a wolf since you got attacked by one, but not being able to get wolf killed plus being able to role block seems like an overpowered ability for a regular town. You might be indie, I don't know. Since you seem to work with us I'm guessing you're not a threatening one and we can win/work together. You might be a regular town with a super awesome ability, though..
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