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RE: Werewolf XXI-0 - Left4TheWolves - Day 1 ends 3rd July 9am AEST

I also support an Alex lynch. Again I feel as if he and Celever are linked.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI-0 - Left4TheWolves - Day 1 ends 3rd July 9am AEST

Also, skimming cannot prove to be a scum trait. If you really want to argue this, I will gladly sit back and watch your sanity drop.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI-0 - Left4TheWolves - Day 1 ends 3rd July 9am AEST

HW understands me <3
##UNVOTE: Celever
##VOTE: alex
alex is more likely to be lynched today, and I'll probably be voting Celever tomorrow.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI-0 - Left4TheWolves - Day 1 ends 3rd July 9am AEST

Haunted Water said:
Also, skimming cannot prove to be a scum trait. If you really want to argue this, I will gladly sit back and watch your sanity drop.
It's bad and is a scum trait. I'll argue if you want but I don't feel like arguing with you. And look who is still mindlessly wagoning (scorched feathers).
 
RE: Werewolf XXI-0 - Left4TheWolves - Day 1 ends 3rd July 9am AEST

I'm not Mindlessly Wagoning >.> alex was my original vote, and I'm going back to it so we can attempt to lynch someone today.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI-0 - Left4TheWolves - Day 1 ends 3rd July 9am AEST

Scorched Feathers said:
I'm not Mindlessly Wagoning >.> alex was my original vote, and I'm going back to it so we can attempt to lynch someone today.
Give me your case on Alex and Celever.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI-0 - Left4TheWolves - Day 1 ends 3rd July 9am AEST

I'll get to SF later.
Let me explain to you why skimming is not a scum trait.


I've skimmed many times before, because I used to have a personal life that didn't consist of Minecraft or Dead Space 3 or blowing things up with fireworks. During those times, I would skim D1. It saves me time as all that happens on D1 is loose arguments and Camoclone.
A lot of Camoclone.
I can see how skimming is remotely scummy (reading for info sure does suck when you have all of the info), but D1 skimming is just trying to maintain a life.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI-0 - Left4TheWolves - Day 1 ends 3rd July 9am AEST

Oh god, cases. What fun.
Celever: He's not acting as I've seen him usually, and attacked Teal, then tried to make it out that he had simply misread it or something... overall, he has quite a weak argument and is acting very scummy.
alex: Wants a D1 No Lynch, which is never good for town, which also soft supports Celever imo. Also, I don't think Policy Lynch is too good of an idea when we have leads like this.
I know they're short, but I'm no you when it comes to cases, camo.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI-0 - Left4TheWolves - Day 1 ends 3rd July 9am AEST

I swear to god if I am lynched D1 because I want a NL, as I have done every single other game...
 
RE: Werewolf XXI-0 - Left4TheWolves - Day 1 ends 3rd July 9am AEST

In reply to Machamp the Champion's question directed at me, you stop NLing when you have enough of an informational lead to lynch someone (or if that lynch will give information), or if enough scumhunting as been done and a good lead has been found that way. This almost always happens D2.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI-0 - Left4TheWolves - Day 1 ends 3rd July 9am AEST

Ok, so I'm back. Based on what has been said so far today, Celever stands to me out as the scummiest player at the moment. He over-reacted to Teal's comments, which although odd, weren't nearly the scum tells he seems to think they were. This post in particular seem like an attempt to backpedal in a way, and to justify his earlier reasoning:

Teal said:
Noun
imped (plural impeds)
A creature without feet.

You have a... what?

Anyway, during the night WW posted that Bisharp37, Bryan and Eron have not sent in roles but now it's gone? Why would WW even say this? It gives away info that shouldn't be... :/

This is pretty Farfetch'd but since we have nothing much to discuss yet, I shall provoke!
Do you think he would say that if they were wolves? It would feel kinda weird to post a wolf on such a list if I was the GM (not that I would post such a list anyway), somehow I think he would be more cautious about it in that case. It's a weird hunch, but in general, my hunches aren't half bad... ;>

Camo didn't vote, he didn't use ##. Not sure what that fake vote against me is supposed to be though. It doesn't really demonstrate that he can't vote either... ó__ò

To me, this post looked like he was at least making an attack towards the players which WanderingWolf listed. When he said "My hunches tend to not be far off" I reread the post and to me it seems like he is trying to say that his hunch was that at least one of the 3 members listed if a wolf. I can't really see another hunch or theory there. I don't know if anyone else can explain to me what they think Teal meant by that.

Anyway, we all know that cases aren't going to be the best thing in the world on Day 1. I said multiple times in my posts that "it may not be the best case but it's the best that we'll get today" or something along those lines. I don't really understand why it is a scumtell me scum hunting. In fact, it looks like the biggest argument against me is alex's post. Actually, that's what I don't understand. My case is fallible, sure, but have you guys got any better? You can't lynch me because I have made a fallible case against someone, or at least, I've never seen anyone lynched for that before. Day 1 is about getting reactions, and honestly, you rushing in to help Teal didn't help me get a reaction from him.

Go on then, Athena or Camoclone, start a better discussion.

Also your case of me buddying on alex is a really bad theory as well, because me saying "no lynches benefit neither town nor wolves" is literally a completely neutral statement, whether it was used as one or not. Can you really tell me that Day 1 no lynches benefit either the town or the anti-town more?

I mean, obviously it benefits third parties the most, but third parties would also never be as blunt as alex was there in outing themselves as an advocator of the no lynch.

From my experience, when scum is caught off guard, they tend to post long messages in an effort to come off as being sided with the town, while they're not really much more than meaningless sentences intended to make it look like they're contributing. I would prefer to lynch Celever first and save alex for later, but if there's not enough votes on Celever by the end of the day, then I'll switch to alex instead.

##VOTE: Celever

Teal's not out of my sight either though, as he was the player I was initially suspicious of from the day's beginning. I'll be keeping an eye on you too.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI-0 - Left4TheWolves - Day 1 ends 3rd July 9am AEST

I'm optional town inno child. I just PM'd WW bc I noticed the wagon on me. I'll be confirmed in a little while, so I'll read back now.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI-0 - Left4TheWolves - Day 1 ends 3rd July 9am AEST

Haunted Water said:
I'll get to SF later.
Let me explain to you why skimming is not a scum trait.


I've skimmed many times before, because I used to have a personal life that didn't consist of Minecraft or Dead Space 3 or blowing things up with fireworks. During those times, I would skim D1. It saves me time as all that happens on D1 is loose arguments and Camoclone.
A lot of Camoclone.
I can see how skimming is remotely scummy (reading for info sure does suck when you have all of the info), but D1 skimming is just trying to maintain a life.
I could argue with you but It's not worth it at this point in time.

alex said:
I swear to god if I am lynched D1 because I want a NL, as I have done every single other game...
Great... It's time to learn. That's not the only reason either. Not to mention your little policy lynch trick was pretty bad.

alex said:
In reply to Machamp the Champion's question directed at me, you stop NLing when you have enough of an informational lead to lynch someone (or if that lynch will give information), or if enough scumhunting as been done and a good lead has been found that way. This almost always happens D2.
Come on man. It's not hard. We have to lynch D1.

Celever said:
I'm optional town inno child. I just PM'd WW bc I noticed the wagon on me. I'll be confirmed in a little while, so I'll read back now.
Awesome. I'll wait for this. I'm happy with Alex for now.

UNVOTE: CELEVER
VOTE: ALEX
 
RE: Werewolf XXI-0 - Left4TheWolves - Day 1 ends 3rd July 9am AEST

Well, that's good enough for me. I'll unvote for you now Celever, and wait to vote for someone else until WanderingWolf shows up.

##UNVOTE: Celever
 
RE: Werewolf XXI-0 - Left4TheWolves - Day 1 ends 3rd July 9am AEST

Also if it's not complete innocent child text then I won't be happy. It better not be some day time announcer trick.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI-0 - Left4TheWolves - Day 1 ends 3rd July 9am AEST

the baby zombie crawls out from the horde, away from the moans and screams of the infestation. It pushes itself up, revealing itself to it's full height, and immediately starts wailing.

Celever's role:

Child Infected - Alignment ~ Town Infected

Who’s a cute wittle zombie? You’re a cute wittle zombie! Now cry for me, zombie!

[Day Ability]: At any point in the game, you may PM me with ‘##CRY’. I will then post your rolecard in the thread, confirming your township.

[Win Condition]: Have at least one town member standing when all dangerous indies, and survivors are dead.

Continue with your day.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI-0 - Left4TheWolves - Day 1 ends 3rd July 9am AEST

Dammit I missed him by only a few minutes. I'll ##CRY in the thread to be sure (it said in PM in my Role PM them) and then I guess we'll wait.

I am whole-heartedly against an alex lynch. No Lynch on Day 1 is a very viable strategy, and I see nothing wrong with him doing it. I also see nothing wrong with him sticking to it. Would you not get on him for backpedaling if he said "OK whatever let's lynch x"? Nothing he has done is remotely scummy to me, which is odd, looking at our track record (2/2 games have ended in both of us surviving 'til late game and then getting in a big argument. Actually 2/2 games ended with him flipping scum lol).

And right now I agree with either a policy Camo lynch or a ##NO: NO LYNCH because it is a very viable strategy Day 1.

And if this was unclear, Doctor/Priest, protect me tonight lol.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI-0 - Left4TheWolves - Day 1 ends 3rd July 9am AEST

Oh never mind, James posted it. Anyway hello! I'm a... uhh... cute wittle zombie! 9.9
 
RE: Werewolf XXI-0 - Left4TheWolves - Day 1 ends 3rd July 9am AEST

For those of you who want to lynch Alex, whatever actual reasoning you have is fine, but lynching him for supporting no lynch is simply moronic. Why you ask? Not because it's a good idea, personally I believe there should always be a D1 lynch, but because he supports no lynch D1 every time he plays, town or wolf, no exceptions.
 
RE: Werewolf XXI-0 - Left4TheWolves - Day 1 ends 3rd July 9am AEST

I also love Camoclone's reasoning that if Celever is scum I'm also scum, but now that Celever is confirmed town I'm still scum.
 
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