Finished Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Members win!

[Teal]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

I am the reporter...

Talk about claiming. RIP Camoclone Night 0 - Night 3.

Are you honestly telling me you didn't know though? It was painfully obvious from the messages and camo's reaction at the start of D2. I almost considered revealing him there but I thought he might not like it.

In addition to what Porygon already pointed out, I do know, as I stated previously, that two members did target me last night. I do not know if they were actually role-blockers or not.

If you are telling the truth: The only reason I can assume for a wolf to target you is a tracker who sees who else targets you. So you can assume that at least one of those is a townie. But to me it kinda feels more likely that both are townies. I mean, what are the chances that the wolves have that role...? In addition, this sounds like a passive ability so it still might work when roleblocked. After all, there are roleblockers who completely block roles and roleblockers who just block roles that must be activated.

A sort of passive effect, yeah. I just get informed who targets me at night, but I don't get to know what they did.

So the person that target you could be a seer or anyone that could do harm?

Just remember that PMJ said that there are no traditional seers this game. Something like "nickname" seer might work.

KoN said he didn't receive a Pm saying he was blocked. That doesn't mean he wasn't.
Also, I have a theory for why Teal could be possibly standing up for KoN. Either they're both Porygon/Werewolf or Teal is a roleblocker and blocked Keeper. Since the Serial Killer kill went through, then Teal would have no doubt but to trust that Keeper is not the serial killer. Or Teal just a hunch :L

I wouldn't call it a hunch. It's just more like the evidence pointing more to him not being the SK instead of him being the SK. I guess after the reveal Drohn understood his role so he did what he could to at least help "Porygon" a little bit. KoN might just as well be a wolf though.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.e

This right? I don't see how this makes him cleared at all.

Serial killer no kill if roleblock
Keeper of Night roleblock last night
Serial killer still kill
Keeper of Night no serial killer

Assuming there is a roleblocker... You re relying on flavor too much. Flavor is just flavor.

Ugh... This is what I wake up to in the morning.

I assume that Camoclone is suspicious of everyone as usual, scorched is being a newbie, Keeper is being called the SK and someone is already at 5 votes?

I'll go back to read the thread...

I don't think this is true, but I'll leave it up to you to decide.

Lots to catch up, but, honestly, the chances of KoN being the SK at this point are slim to none. There is absolutely no reason for Drohn to have told us the truth about KoN being Porygon (but plenty of reasons for him to lie), and with 2 people acting on him, the chances that KoN was blocked are fairly high, and yet the SK wasn't blocked.

Yes but it is Drohn... Drohn got really desperate so if you think about it from the point of Drohn after revealing it was in his best interest to out the SK. Again we are relying on flavor too much and relying on their being a role blocker.

Talk about claiming. RIP Camoclone Night 0 - Night 3.

Are you honestly telling me you didn't know though? It was painfully obvious from the messages and camo's reaction at the start of D2. I almost considered revealing him there but I thought he might not like it.

This is one of the reasons I decided to reveal. I figured some advanced players might see it while new players would be left out.


KoN do you have any problem with revealing? You already told us your role really. I'll give you your ISO soon.

 

[Athena]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.e

Yes but it is Drohn... Drohn got really desperate so if you think about it from the point of Drohn after revealing it was in his best interest to out the SK. Again we are relying on flavor too much and relying on their being a role blocker.
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No, it wasn't in Drohn's best interests. Yes, he did reveal himself accidentally, but that was before he fully understood his win condition. He did not out KoN until after he realized what his win condition was.

I do not think Drohn is dumb enough to ask again his own win condition on purpose. I can forgive him for doing so accidentally, but to think that he purposefully sabotaged his own win condition by outing the SK is just silly.

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Sorry guys, I should be more active, I know, but I've got a rlly active game in LYLO on smogon so I'm trying to help out there...

I'm interested as to why everyone thinks the serial killer killed last night. To me it looked like some game mechanic where PMJ randomizes a number and whoever it lands on dies. I've seen this in another game (it failed miserably), but nothing in the flavour indicates, to me, the SK killing. Plus, everyone immediately assumed it was a hook which stopped the SK -- could have been a lucky doctor. My point is that today is all speculation, yet people are treating what people say as absolutes. This will slowly tear the village apart - we must consider all possible circumstances when we post.

 

[rev3rsor]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Well I'm here, actually paying decent attention.
Reading back on yesterday it seems either Drohn messed up badly or he tried to frame KoN. I'm not too sure which one it is since strategy isn't my thing...

 

[rev3rsor]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

@Celever I don't know how relevant the flavour is but it says that WPM banned grant, and then someone tried to ban him (and failed because he was already banned).

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

@Celever I don't know how relevant the flavour is but it says that WPM banned grant, and then someone tried to ban him (and failed because he was already banned).

Yes. WPM banned grant, and the SK is Porygon apparently. Do you see my point guys?

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.e

Serial killer no kill if roleblock
Keeper of Night roleblock last night
Serial killer still kill
Keeper of Night no serial killer

Assuming there is a roleblocker... You re relying on flavor too much. Flavor is just flavor.

I have never played a game where there was no Roleblocker. There is always a Roleblocker.

And flavor is there for a reason, it's to enrich the game and give slight clues as to how abilities were used. Flavor doesn't lie.

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

I remember that. That was PMJ, and he ended up winning because WanderingWolf and GM DracLord are bad at werewolf. I'd honestly rather take out a potential SK as soon as possible than leave it for the late game where the town has a chance to screw up.

Oh, that game. I was thinking of the SGT. Frogs game where RaichuGirl was the SK, and we left her alive.

Sorry for the double post, this ^ was the game I was referring to. (the frog one)

 

[TheGuy]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

I would be super surprised if there was no role blocker. However, I wouldn't be surprised if we had a role blocker who didn't think or listen and didn't block Keeper. After tonight I'd find Keeper being SK a lot less likely but I still think it's a strong possibility and I wouldn't be opposed to lynching him.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.e

Yes but it is Drohn... Drohn got really desperate so if you think about it from the point of Drohn after revealing it was in his best interest to out the SK. Again we are relying on flavor too much and relying on their being a role blocker.

No, it wasn't in Drohn's best interests. Yes, he did reveal himself accidentally, but that was before he fully understood his win condition. He did not out KoN until after he realized what his win condition was.

I do not think Drohn is dumb enough to ask again his own win condition on purpose. I can forgive him for doing so accidentally, but to think that he purposefully sabotaged his own win condition by outing the SK is just silly.

Drohn was clinging onto his last hope that he would be converted to town though. If he lied about KoN being the SK then he would have just been lynched the next day.

Assuming there is a roleblocker... You re relying on flavor too much. Flavor is just flavor.

I have never played a game where there was no Roleblocker. There is always a Roleblocker.

And flavor is there for a reason, it's to enrich the game and give slight clues as to how abilities were used. Flavor doesn't lie.

It doesn't matter... We can't assume their is a role blocker.

Flavor means literally nothing it is just flavor. If you rely on it too much then it can easily screw you over. It is not meant to give clues at all.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.e

"LOL PRAISE ME" said some annoying kid.

Fletch, get out.

Alright, looks like there's an announcer here. However, I'll stay skeptical until given a good reason. Often, a wolf as a reporter can influence the town greatly (or, at least, try to).

Stating the obvious...

Full disclosure: All players appear town when investigated; you'll have to do more than look their roles up to find the scum.

Does this confirm safe-claims then? I actually haven't played that many games where safe-claims are in play.

How does he know about safe claims?

Machamp is trying to use Camoclone logic. Boy won't this be fun...

I would assume that seers can see full roles... But I'm not certain. Maybe some seers see full and others don't (without knowing which they are)? Kind of like the 5 cop syndrome (or whatever).

What is Camoclone logic? He RVS'd nothing more nothing less.

I kind of want to vote for Drohn just for being an Smod his response to Camo's vote.
Screenshot =/= desperate?

Drohn was the best lynch at the time and he hasn't placed a vote yet. Pressure can't hurt.

Yeah, I'm going to follow through.
##VOTE: Drohn

Grant, you've done this before. Is it possible for you to share why you think (know?) Athena is scum? I mean, I think her first post was scummy too, but I guess I wrote it off as newb town.

Jumping on the wagon after 3 other people did. Making sure it was safe.

-> People think you're a wolf for defending yourself against a claim. I give up.

It wasn't so much that you defended, it's the intensity of your reaction that makes me wary.

Ok...

I want to believe that Drohn will become town after "Porygon" dies... But I don't. The fact that he "loses his safe claim" makes that much obvious. Obviously, as VT, he wouldn't need one, but he wouldn't need to be told that if it wouldn't matter anyway.
I agree with Teal. If Porygon dies, Drohn could become a serial killer himself.

Honestly, it boils down to:
1) Grant thinks both Athena and Drohn are scum.
2) Drohn claims indie (helper).
3) Grant is proven correct on one of his claims, and immediately backs off.

Why? Just... Why?
Athena hasn't done anything other than "try to fit in." I can easily see her as flipping wolf, but I can also see her being inexperienced town. Either way, Drohn is the obviously better lynch today. He isn't town, didn't even claim town, and could potentially become a threat later. He could also become town, but is it worth taking that chance? I don't think so...

Athena hasn't done anything but trying to fit in... Doesn't everyone?

You're supposed to be on my side. >.>

I'm not sided with the indies, sorry. I think you are a good lynch for today.

Hmmmmm...

@Keeper I'm pretty sure Athena is not inexperienced at this game.

I thought this was her first time. I could be wrong, and if I am then I say we lynch Athena tomorrow (unless we have other info to go off of).
Drohn is best for today because usually Day 1 is a NV anyway, given the little information we have to go off of. This way, we at least are confirmed to get rid of a non-town.

Why Athena? I still haven't seen Athena do anything scummy.

I see what's going on here.
I pointed out that Drohn was bad, and he want to take me down with him.

@Camo, you'll have to take my word on it. No, I am not Porygon. I don't even know who the guy is (unless it's Porygon-X).

Why only talk to me?

Werewolf 21
To: Drohn

The role of Porygon is being played by Keeper of Night. Good luck.

Fake.

I can see how this add sup though, and it is very clever.
However, the only member who actually retracted his vote after Drohn revealed was grantm. I don't think he'll become town after Porygon dies, and my alignment isn't "Porygon", so I don't really care about him.

Contradicts with what he said earlier. He is getting desperate.

My role is Eron, btw, if that helps. (Which I know it doesn't, since there are fake-claims, but you know, it's here anyway because there's no harm in people knowing.)

And now not only does grant un-vote Drohn, but he votes the person who want him lynched.
There is a downside to voting me grant (unless you're Porygon), but you won't know that yet.

I'm sticking to voting Drohn, because as I said before, we know he isn't town and there isn't a downside to voting him.
Grant, why is voting me (who has a chance to be town) any better than voting Drohn (who has a much lower chance of being town)? I'm very curious to hear your answer.

This is completely untrue...

Why are you only talking to me? Also I find it weird how Drohn's "PM" wasn't quoted or reply'd. I want to lynch Drohn today but I think you are a good lynch tomorrow. Grant better watch out too.

Because you're the only one who actually asked instead of jumping the wagon?

There was only a very small wagon at the time.

@Keeper of Night/Porygon: I don't know who the "real" Porygon or Kronar are either. That doesn't change we got their roles.

The fact that you keep bringing it up just shows how desperate you are.

I could say the same to you.

Sorry, Porygon. <3 Good luck, though.

So...
You supposedly reveal Porygon (me) and then wish him luck?
That's believable.

Hmmm...

Machamp, are you even looking at the facts? Drohn just wants me dead to help his faction live that much longer. I pointed out that he was acting scummy, and he's taking me down as a result. Actually, if I had to guess, grant is Porygon. He was adamant about Drohn being scum until he actually claimed scum. Now he's sticking to Athena and defending Drohn.
My take on the subject.

Deflecting the blame to Grant. The bolded part makes no sense because Porygon doesn't know who Kronar is.

If I am lynched today, get Drohn tomorrow and Grant afterwards (?).
I would then look into Athena... Maybe. If grant does flip indie then it makes sense he would make stuff up to throw suspicion off of him. However, if on the off chance grant does flip town, I think Athena would be scum. Don't quote me on it though.
After that, I've got nothing. So good luck town.

This is premature and uncalled for.

I'm not overreacting. I'm telling you what should happen after I am lynched and flip town.

AtE...

I was legitimately asking. Maybe one I get to a computer I can compile some quotes for us to ponder.

Ok...

So...
You supposedly reveal Porygon (me) and then wish him luck?
That's believable.

General question for everyone that is following Drohn's lead and voting KoN: Why do you actually believe Drohn is telling the truth?

As much as I hate to do this:

Drohn's role says that he does not know who the Serial Killer is, right?

Drohn's role actually states that he does know the identity of Porygon, which is what makes his claim against me somewhat believable.

...

Why are you defending Jeremy, Scorched?

Deflecting again.

Impeccable logic KoN, blaming it on Bandwagon. Flawless, wonderful. *claps hands*
I think the Serial Killer and the Wolves targeted Grant :S

I didn't "blame it on bandwagon", I said you were bandwagoning. As in, just following Camo's vote and whatever Drohn said.

No mention of the Drohn bandwagon.

Colbalt, you're relying on your role reveal too much. Wouldn't that also be expected of a wolf relying on their safe claim?
Also, like Drohn yesterday, you're over reacting to Camo's accusations against you.

...

Keeper of Night how many people targeted you night 0?

 

[Keeper of Night]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Fletch, get out.

Alright, looks like there's an announcer here. However, I'll stay skeptical until given a good reason. Often, a wolf as a reporter can influence the town greatly (or, at least, try to).

Stating the obvious...
Yeah, well, it's the beginning of Day 1. Tell me what else to do.

Does this confirm safe-claims then? I actually haven't played that many games where safe-claims are in play.

How does he know about safe claims?
I didn't until PMJ mentioned it. That's the whole reason I asked.

Machamp is trying to use Camoclone logic. Boy won't this be fun...

I would assume that seers can see full roles... But I'm not certain. Maybe some seers see full and others don't (without knowing which they are)? Kind of like the 5 cop syndrome (or whatever).

What is Camoclone logic? He RVS'd nothing more nothing less.
That was a joke... MtC got it.

I kind of want to vote for Drohn just for being an Smod his response to Camo's vote.
Screenshot =/= desperate?

Drohn was the best lynch at the time and he hasn't placed a vote yet. Pressure can't hurt.
That post was the original post that actrually began to question Drohn after your clearly not serious vote.

Yeah, I'm going to follow through.
##VOTE: Drohn

Grant, you've done this before. Is it possible for you to share why you think (know?) Athena is scum? I mean, I think her first post was scummy too, but I guess I wrote it off as newb town.

Jumping on the wagon after 3 other people did. Making sure it was safe.
More like I brought it up for discussion and then decided to vote after others agreed, but yeah, that's pretty much the same.

It wasn't so much that you defended, it's the intensity of your reaction that makes me wary.

Ok...

I want to believe that Drohn will become town after "Porygon" dies... But I don't. The fact that he "loses his safe claim" makes that much obvious. Obviously, as VT, he wouldn't need one, but he wouldn't need to be told that if it wouldn't matter anyway.
I agree with Teal. If Porygon dies, Drohn could become a serial killer himself.

Honestly, it boils down to:
1) Grant thinks both Athena and Drohn are scum.
2) Drohn claims indie (helper).
3) Grant is proven correct on one of his claims, and immediately backs off.

Why? Just... Why?
Athena hasn't done anything other than "try to fit in." I can easily see her as flipping wolf, but I can also see her being inexperienced town. Either way, Drohn is the obviously better lynch today. He isn't town, didn't even claim town, and could potentially become a threat later. He could also become town, but is it worth taking that chance? I don't think so...

Athena hasn't done anything but trying to fit in... Doesn't everyone?
This was in response to grant, who brough up Athena in the first place. I was defending her, since I hadn't seen her d anything wrong.

I'm not sided with the indies, sorry. I think you are a good lynch for today.

Hmmmmm...

I thought this was her first time. I could be wrong, and if I am then I say we lynch Athena tomorrow (unless we have other info to go off of).
Drohn is best for today because usually Day 1 is a NV anyway, given the little information we have to go off of. This way, we at least are confirmed to get rid of a non-town.

Why Athena? I still haven't seen Athena do anything scummy.
Again, responding to grant.

I see what's going on here.
I pointed out that Drohn was bad, and he want to take me down with him.

@Camo, you'll have to take my word on it. No, I am not Porygon. I don't even know who the guy is (unless it's Porygon-X).

Why only talk to me?
You asked.

Fake.

I can see how this add sup though, and it is very clever.
However, the only member who actually retracted his vote after Drohn revealed was grantm. I don't think he'll become town after Porygon dies, and my alignment isn't "Porygon", so I don't really care about him.

Contradicts with what he said earlier. He is getting desperate.
Don't get what you mean. This doesn't contradict with anything.

My role is Eron, btw, if that helps. (Which I know it doesn't, since there are fake-claims, but you know, it's here anyway because there's no harm in people knowing.)

And now not only does grant un-vote Drohn, but he votes the person who want him lynched.
There is a downside to voting me grant (unless you're Porygon), but you won't know that yet.

I'm sticking to voting Drohn, because as I said before, we know he isn't town and there isn't a downside to voting him.
Grant, why is voting me (who has a chance to be town) any better than voting Drohn (who has a much lower chance of being town)? I'm very curious to hear your answer.

This is completely untrue...
Ok, so Drohn was town? Interesting, since we saw his role and all. Ok, maybe I exaggerated my usefulness, but maybe not.

Because you're the only one who actually asked instead of jumping the wagon?

There was only a very small wagon at the time.
I was referring to the situation. You asked, others pointed fingers. But the information was there for all to see.

The fact that you keep bringing it up just shows how desperate you are.

I could say the same to you.
I suppose you could, but it's not the same. Drohn practicaly kept shouting that I was Porygon, I'm just responding to what I'm asked.

So...
You supposedly reveal Porygon (me) and then wish him luck?
That's believable.

Hmmm...

Machamp, are you even looking at the facts? Drohn just wants me dead to help his faction live that much longer. I pointed out that he was acting scummy, and he's taking me down as a result. Actually, if I had to guess, grant is Porygon. He was adamant about Drohn being scum until he actually claimed scum. Now he's sticking to Athena and defending Drohn.
My take on the subject.

Deflecting the blame to Grant. The bolded part makes no sense because Porygon doesn't know who Kronar is.
No, pointing out the facts. I was wrong, it turns out, but the reaction was still there.

If I am lynched today, get Drohn tomorrow and Grant afterwards (?).
I would then look into Athena... Maybe. If grant does flip indie then it makes sense he would make stuff up to throw suspicion off of him. However, if on the off chance grant does flip town, I think Athena would be scum. Don't quote me on it though.
After that, I've got nothing. So good luck town.

This is premature and uncalled for.
Nope. I was doing my best to try and help the rest of the town, because there was a chance I would be dying. That is not "premature", that's just common sense.

I'm not overreacting. I'm telling you what should happen after I am lynched and flip town.

AtE...

I was legitimately asking. Maybe one I get to a computer I can compile some quotes for us to ponder.

Ok...

So...
You supposedly reveal Porygon (me) and then wish him luck?
That's believable.

General question for everyone that is following Drohn's lead and voting KoN: Why do you actually believe Drohn is telling the truth?

As much as I hate to do this:
Drohn's role actually states that he does know the identity of Porygon, which is what makes his claim against me somewhat believable.

...
What? Again, just pointing out the facts so nobody gets confused.

Why are you defending Jeremy, Scorched?

Deflecting again.
Just a question.

I didn't "blame it on bandwagon", I said you were bandwagoning. As in, just following Camo's vote and whatever Drohn said.

No mention of the Drohn bandwagon.
That you started jokingly and I started seriously.

Colbalt, you're relying on your role reveal too much. Wouldn't that also be expected of a wolf relying on their safe claim?
Also, like Drohn yesterday, you're over reacting to Camo's accusations against you.

...
Facts and questions.

Keeper of Night how many people targeted you night 0?

One.

 

[Teal]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.e

Flavor means literally nothing it is just flavor. If you rely on it too much then it can easily screw you over. It is not meant to give clues at all.

It is.

 

[Keeper of Night]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Er, stupid phone.
I said one, I meant none. As far as I know, nobody targeted me N0. That's not to say my effect doesn't have blind spots.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Stating the obvious...
Yeah, well, it's the beginning of Day 1. Tell me what else to do.
RVS

How does he know about safe claims?
I didn't until PMJ mentioned it. That's the whole reason I asked.
I recall him mentioning it after you posted that.

What is Camoclone logic? He RVS'd nothing more nothing less.
That was a joke... MtC got it.

Drohn was the best lynch at the time and he hasn't placed a vote yet. Pressure can't hurt.
That post was the original post that actrually began to question Drohn after your clearly not serious vote.
Oh my second vote was perfectly serious.

Jumping on the wagon after 3 other people did. Making sure it was safe.
More like I brought it up for discussion and then decided to vote after others agreed, but yeah, that's pretty much the same.

Ok...

Athena hasn't done anything but trying to fit in... Doesn't everyone?
This was in response to grant, who brough up Athena in the first place. I was defending her, since I hadn't seen her d anything wrong.

Hmmmmm...


Why Athena? I still haven't seen Athena do anything scummy.
Again, responding to grant.


This is completely untrue...
Ok, so Drohn was town? Interesting, since we saw his role and all. Ok, maybe I exaggerated my usefulness, but maybe not.
I'm talking about another part of it.

There was only a very small wagon at the time.
I was referring to the situation. You asked, others pointed fingers. But the information was there for all to see.
No mention on the Drohn bandwagon.

I could say the same to you.
I suppose you could, but it's not the same. Drohn practicaly kept shouting that I was Porygon, I'm just responding to what I'm asked.

Hmmm...

Deflecting the blame to Grant. The bolded part makes no sense because Porygon doesn't know who Kronar is.
No, pointing out the facts. I was wrong, it turns out, but the reaction was still there.
Fair enough

This is premature and uncalled for.
Nope. I was doing my best to try and help the rest of the town, because there was a chance I would be dying. That is not "premature", that's just common sense.
You had very few votes on you at the time.

AtE...

Ok...



...
What? Again, just pointing out the facts so nobody gets confused.

Deflecting again.
Just a question.

No mention of the Drohn bandwagon.
That you started jokingly and I started seriously.
I started as RVS. You most definitely did not start it. Don't try to take credit for that one.

...
Facts and questions.

Keeper of Night how many people targeted you night 0?

One.
Hmmm... this will be useful later once more people claim.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.e

Flavor means literally nothing it is just flavor. If you rely on it too much then it can easily screw you over. It is not meant to give clues at all.

It is.

It shouldn't. It depends on the host I guess.

Er, stupid phone.
I said one, I meant none. As far as I know, nobody targeted me N0. That's not to say my effect doesn't have blind spots.

What does the bolded part mean. If anyone with a targeting role targeted KoN N0 please tell us.

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.e

It is.

It shouldn't. It depends on the host I guess.

Er, stupid phone.
I said one, I meant none. As far as I know, nobody targeted me N0. That's not to say my effect doesn't have blind spots.

What does the bolded part mean. If anyone with a targeting role targeted KoN N0 please tell us.

He means that his role/item if there are any itg tells him how many people targeted him that night. He just speculated that it might not cover all abilities, however I find that extraordinarily unlikely.

##TUNNEL: CAMOCLONE

Sorry, but you are tunneling Keeper hard today. You want him lynched and you're not taking any evidence which could possibly disprove the SK claim. I understand that you believe Drohn was telling the truth, but you have to consider all of the basis before you begin to tunnel. This isn't to say that I necessarily believe Keeper, I'm just not quick to bandwagon or trust someone. I stay suspicious of everyone though - or I try to, anyway.

My problem is that if your post has any substance, today, anyway, it is about Keeper 95% of the time. I understand that this is how you always play, but I want you to fan out a little bit, that's all.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.e

It shouldn't. It depends on the host I guess.

What does the bolded part mean. If anyone with a targeting role targeted KoN N0 please tell us.

He means that his role/item if there are any itg tells him how many people targeted him that night. He just speculated that it might not cover all abilities, however I find that extraordinarily unlikely.

##TUNNEL: CAMOCLONE

Sorry, but you are tunneling Keeper hard today. You want him lynched and you're not taking any evidence which could possibly disprove the SK claim. I understand that you believe Drohn was telling the truth, but you have to consider all of the basis before you begin to tunnel. This isn't to say that I necessarily believe Keeper, I'm just not quick to bandwagon or trust someone. I stay suspicious of everyone though - or I try to, anyway.

My problem is that if your post has any substance, today, anyway, it is about Keeper 95% of the time. I understand that this is how you always play, but I want you to fan out a little bit, that's all.

I'm not tunneling at all... I don't even have my vote on KoN.

 

[Keeper of Night]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

I'm not taking credit for RVS, nor would I want to, since I think it's absolutely crazy. But nobody took your vote against Drohn seriously but Drohn himself. I pointed out his reaction and questioned it, that I will "take credit for."

Er, stupid phone.
I said one, I meant none. As far as I know, nobody targeted me N0. That's not to say my effect doesn't have blind spots.

What does the bolded part mean. If anyone with a targeting role targeted KoN N0 please tell us.

My effect's wording says I may be given names of who targeted me at night. I'm going to assume that there is either a chance involved or I only recognize certain roles or something similar.