Finished Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Members win!

[GM DracLord]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.

kinda to think back.. it's pointless to mass claim with the scum having fake claims.. It will just reveal out our PR and that's not helping at all. so alex has a good point

##INSPECT Celever

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.

I suggested it, many others decided to go with the idea. I really don't understand the problem with a mass claim here; the majority of these safe claims are really quite useless abilities, and so we can just lynch one of the useless ones. I've already explained that at this stage in the game inspectors are really useless, and actually, they can't see through safe claims anyway. I already said above that the doctor should come up with a fake claim himself. If we start lynching him then he can claim. I also don't really see why you should say it's too early for a mass claim. If TheGuy is right and there's 3 scum left, that's 6 townies, and 3 scum, or possibly 5 town and a porygon straggler. What I'm saying, is that if we lynch falsely today, we MUST lynch scum for the rest of the game and we MUST mass claim tomorrow. If there's a Porygon straggler and we fail our lynch today, then he would have likely taken over Cinesra's killing abilities and... well we lose. This is the optimum time for a mass claim if we are ever going to do one.

##ALEX: alex
Yeah say OMGUS if you want, but honestly not wanting to mass claim at this stage in the game, with the fatly logic that you showed, and also seeing an opportunity to try and push that lynch on me, appears to be very scummy to me, and because of my lack of reads currently, put you at #1 on my scum list.

Thanks to your reluctance to have a mass claim, if we do have one, I would like you to go first. What do you all think?

I will say OMGUS, because that is exactly what this is. And it makes me even more sure that my vote is in the correct spot.

See Draclord's post above if you want a restatement of my "faulty" logic.

 

[Kecleon-X]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.

@Celever: Something.

I actually like the idea of a mass claim. The wolves can probably guess who the PR's are at this point, and I really don't have any solid leads, so I think Town getting that info would really help us. If there are actually a lot of them left, they'll probably find one of them today anyway. There's also a large possibility that there are no big Power Roles in this game, since Seers don't go through safe claims. (This was said earlier on. Don't feel like finding it, but I'm 90% sure it was said.) I don't think it really matters what order people claim, since the wolves will likely just use their fake claims.

I don't like the idea of a massclaim. The power roles would have to come up with their own safeclaims, and the wolves would just have to thumb through which of the roles seemed as such and kill each one of them, and that would be very dangerous for us.

But yeah, sorry about not posting as much -- I've been pretty much just moderating in DG, then school (yes, I'm still doing school during Summer) and then finishing my book.

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.

Ugh, I've never been the best at arguing...

Role: DocRobot_K-176
Alignment: Members

You are DocRobot_K-176, a member of PokeBeach Forums. You find the actions of the super mods reprehensible. You are going to step up and protect your fellow members.

Ability: TM17
Once each night you may PM me the name of any player except yourself. That player will not die during that night.

Win Condition: All non-Members eliminated

We need to lynch someone today. I nominate alex. What do you guys think?

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.

Yes OMG the doctor claimed let's all run and hide and cry.

Basically, it's better for me to just claim and clean myself when the wagon starts so that we can be as efficient as possible today. Yes, I'm going to die tonight, oh well. Hit scum today and it won't be in vain. Ok?

Let's take a vote!

Everybody vote for two members you would like to see dead. The person you list first will get 2 points, the person you list second will get 1 point. The person who gets the most points will be killed by rev3rsor today, as it is his ability, and then we will take another vote afterwards with the new information to see who to actually lynch. We have less than 3 days to do this in, so if you see votes racking up on you, you might want to claim to avoid getting killed, as we WILL do the results of this vote. If we don't then this village truly deserves to lose. Actually, considering Cinesra killed 2/3 dead scum for us itg, we really do deserve the loss already lol. Thank you Cinesra!

I vote for:
1) alex (pushing lynches unnecessarily, being very active but not contributing too much afaik)
2) GM Draclord (has really been scathing through this game because he's new. He hasn't done anything for the village iirc, except he was a large voice in the KoN lynch. However, that can be said for almost everyone itg except for...)

I have to say, the confirmed villagers right now are:

Celever (is now pub doctor!)
Machamp The Champion (Killed Cinesra with his one-shot day vig)
rev3rsor (Is going to kill someone with his one-shot day vig)
Porygon-X (Tried to be killed by the mafia. Ouch )

This leaves TheGuy, Kecleon-X, GM Draclord, alex and Scorched Feathers. I do believe SF's claim, but whoever said it's a good claim for a scum is correct there. TheGuy has really been a fantastic contributor to us villagers, but I know that TheGuy is very good at this game and he would be very capable of feigning helpfulness. However... I just can't ever see myself lynching him right now, he has just been too helpful. This leaves the scum as Kecleon-X, GM Draclord and alex. This seems like a fairly likely scumteam to me, but I would also very easily substitute Kecleon-X for Scorched Feathers. However, realistically I would want to kill alex today with rev3rsor and lynch Drac. alex gives us more information than any of the other 2 to utilise today if he does turn out to be scum, anyway. What do all of you guys think?

24 hours until the vote closes or there is a majority for one player (let's say 5 of us put alex as our number 1 choice) is reached. I would prefer the majority, but whatever works!

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.

I vote for:
1) alex (pushing lynches unnecessarily, being very active but not contributing too much afaik)
2) GM Draclord (has really been scathing through this game because he's new. He hasn't done anything for the village iirc, except he was a large voice in the KoN lynch. However, that can be said for almost everyone itg except for...)

I think I'll keep my vote. Obvious OMGUS against me and Drac and a completely unnecessary claim that does not even seem real (that flavor...), and it seems even less real given how willing he was to out as Doc.

I have fos'd you ever since you voted SF randomly after I did in order to get his attention, and ever since then you have just kept spiraling down.

You have also been trying to ATE the town ever since I have started going after you, using lots of emojis etc., trying really badly to 'subtly' push my lynch ("24 hours until the vote closes or there is a majority for one player [let's say 5 of us put alex as our number 1 choice] is reached").

You made a huge post directly while you are under suspicion in an attempt to redirect attention and take control of the town.

And I'm not sure why rev3rsor is confirmed villager. When did he become confirmed?

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.

I vote for:
1) alex (pushing lynches unnecessarily, being very active but not contributing too much afaik)
2) GM Draclord (has really been scathing through this game because he's new. He hasn't done anything for the village iirc, except he was a large voice in the KoN lynch. However, that can be said for almost everyone itg except for...)

I think I'll keep my vote. Obvious OMGUS against me and Drac and a completely unnecessary claim that does not even seem real (that flavor...), and it seems even less real given how willing he was to out as Doc.

I have fos'd you ever since you voted SF randomly after I did in order to get his attention, and ever since then you have just kept spiraling down.

You have also been trying to ATE the town ever since I have started going after you, using lots of emojis etc., trying really badly to 'subtly' push my lynch ("24 hours until the vote closes or there is a majority for one player [let's say 5 of us put alex as our number 1 choice] is reached").

You made a huge post directly while you are under suspicion in an attempt to redirect attention and take control of the town.

And I'm not sure why rev3rsor is confirmed villager. When did he become confirmed?

...

Look, alex, I'm not even going to bother defending myself. I've claimed doctor, I've put my role there, nothing is going to stop me from leading the village because I am a PR. I don't actually care if my flavour seems real or not, because that's what was in my role PM. I'm new to the forums, I couldn't make it myself, and flavour would be given to me in a fake, so that point is idiotic and clutching at straws.

I put that "if 5 of us have alex as our number 1 choice there" very consciously to see your reaction and to reaffirm my belief that you're being defensive before I say it to the town. Look guys, he's being REALLY defensive lol.

alex, look back. Most of my posts are huge. Look back to Seleno City -- big posts. My playstyle is to make big posts because I type really fast. If you can make big posts in small amounts of time and can cover a large basis of things, why wouldn't you? Plus, I feel like I have to make up for not being so active earlier in the game lol.

You said a "completely unnecessary claim" whilst I have stated my reasons clearly. I want to defuse this wagon before it starts to kick off so that we can move on with the day efficiently. This is why I proposed this vote (which is a fairly standard tactic for later on in the game on my main mafia site, which all mafia tend to prepare for there. I knew that mafias here would be like a fish out of water when faced with it, which was why I immediately did it and pressured you and Drac to, once again, reaffirm my beliefs of your scumminess).

I consider rev confirmed because he is going to kill someone with his dayvig soon, and a mafia would NEVER claim anything of the sort, especially as he said "I want to use this today". It is just so convincing that I have to consider him confirmed.

So, stop time wasting if you are village and get voting. The fact that you even try to say that a doctor claim at this stage in the game when there's 9 players left and the doctor hasn't died yet is so bloody hilarious I just can't even.

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.

Look, alex, I'm not even going to bother defending myself. I've claimed doctor, I've put my role there, nothing is going to stop me from leading the village because I am a PR. I don't actually care if my flavour seems real or not, because that's what was in my role PM. I'm new to the forums, I couldn't make it myself, and flavour would be given to me in a fake, so that point is idiotic and clutching at straws.

So, stop time wasting if you are village and get voting. The fact that you even try to say that a doctor claim at this stage in the game when there's 9 players left and the doctor hasn't died yet is so bloody hilarious I just can't even.

Or maybe you are a Wolf, and guess what, wolves don't have Docters, so you decided to claim Doctor so "nothing could stop you from leading the village because you are a PR".

I put that "if 5 of us have alex as our number 1 choice there" very consciously to see your reaction and to reaffirm my belief that you're being defensive before I say it to the town. Look guys, he's being REALLY defensive lol.

This has to be a joke. You make an attack at me, and then are surprised when I say something defensive in response?

You said a "completely unnecessary claim" whilst I have stated my reasons clearly. I want to defuse this wagon before it starts to kick off so that we can move on with the day efficiently. This is why I proposed this vote (which is a fairly standard tactic for later on in the game on my main mafia site, which all mafia tend to prepare for there. I knew that mafias here would be like a fish out of water when faced with it, which was why I immediately did it and pressured you and Drac to, once again, reaffirm my beliefs of your scumminess).

This makes absolutely no sense. If by "this wagon" you are referring to yourself, you had TWO VOTES on you. You claimed as DOC with two votes. And what are you referring to by "this vote"? Are you referring to the system you want to set up with voting 2 people and one counts for 2 points etc? Because that would not do anything to the mafia. It's the same exact thing as a regular vote. And neither me or Drac even referred to it in any of our posts.

I consider rev confirmed because he is going to kill someone with his dayvig soon, and a mafia would NEVER claim anything of the sort, especially as he said "I want to use this today". It is just so convincing that I have to consider him confirmed.

He will not be confirmed until he shoots someone. And considering we already have a confirmed one-time vig (MtC), I'm not so sure he ever will...

 

[Porygon-X]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.

Well I would vote for SF to be killed by rev3rsor. First because I don't believe his claim, but also his claim is either true, or he is a wolf. Both ways he won't be killed during the night, and I think with his death now, we would gather insights about those who pushed his lynch early on.

 

[GM DracLord]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.

Why the sudden rush. Just because i suspect you Celever does not meant im a scum. Since you claim doctor im guessing you're a fake . Aka scum. Since i remembered that we kinda agreed that the doctor should stay out of the radar if we ever choose to massclaim. And yet you deciced to go on and claim doctor when only 2 votes on your head. It's like you are just moving the spotlight and put on the suspicion elsewhere. Theres a reason why i go support the KoN lynch and if you seen me and how i played you know why. Yes i seen like a bew player.. Its just becuase i used to play mafia since i was in primamry school.. Where i just treat it like RPG i'm much into analysis with soo much rumbling going on..

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.

Look, alex, I'm not even going to bother defending myself. I've claimed doctor, I've put my role there, nothing is going to stop me from leading the village because I am a PR. I don't actually care if my flavour seems real or not, because that's what was in my role PM. I'm new to the forums, I couldn't make it myself, and flavour would be given to me in a fake, so that point is idiotic and clutching at straws.

So, stop time wasting if you are village and get voting. The fact that you even try to say that a doctor claim at this stage in the game when there's 9 players left and the doctor hasn't died yet is so bloody hilarious I just can't even.

Or maybe you are a Wolf, and guess what, wolves don't have Docters, so you decided to claim Doctor so "nothing could stop you from leading the village because you are a PR".

I put that "if 5 of us have alex as our number 1 choice there" very consciously to see your reaction and to reaffirm my belief that you're being defensive before I say it to the town. Look guys, he's being REALLY defensive lol.

This has to be a joke. You make an attack at me, and then are surprised when I say something defensive in response?

You said a "completely unnecessary claim" whilst I have stated my reasons clearly. I want to defuse this wagon before it starts to kick off so that we can move on with the day efficiently. This is why I proposed this vote (which is a fairly standard tactic for later on in the game on my main mafia site, which all mafia tend to prepare for there. I knew that mafias here would be like a fish out of water when faced with it, which was why I immediately did it and pressured you and Drac to, once again, reaffirm my beliefs of your scumminess).

This makes absolutely no sense. If by "this wagon" you are referring to yourself, you had TWO VOTES on you. You claimed as DOC with two votes. And what are you referring to by "this vote"? Are you referring to the system you want to set up with voting 2 people and one counts for 2 points etc? Because that would not do anything to the mafia. It's the same exact thing as a regular vote. And neither me or Drac even referred to it in any of our posts.

I consider rev confirmed because he is going to kill someone with his dayvig soon, and a mafia would NEVER claim anything of the sort, especially as he said "I want to use this today". It is just so convincing that I have to consider him confirmed.

He will not be confirmed until he shoots someone. And considering we already have a confirmed one-time vig (MtC), I'm not so sure he ever will...

Uhh... That paragraph doesn't make sense? "Guess what? Wolves don't have doctors, so you decided to claim doctor to make you a PR?" alex, let me put this out for you straight forward. In every single NOC to date (aside from the fun randomized ones) there is a doctor. In this game, the doctor isn't dead, and it is me. You are arguing with the doctor and you are time wasting heavily. I saw you lurking earlier, Porygon-X. Please post. Just anyone who can see this situation post. I can't understand why he would do this unless he is mafia. Is this some Pokébeach thing?

I wouldn't ever class that as an attack... You said it yourself:
"You have also been trying to ATE the town ever since I have started going after you, using lots of emojis etc., trying really badly to 'subtly' push my lynch"

"Subtly push my lynch". An attack isn't subtle. Also I forgot to respond before, but I always use emoticons (I'm british, it's an emoticon to me) and you've read enough of my posts to know that. Honestly... just stop clutching here and accept your fate. rev3rsor kill alex with your role. If it is incorrect then feel free to lynch me even though I am your doctor. I am that certain of this guy. The 2-person voting thing can now be for who to lynch. Rev, if you want to wait for more opinions, that's also fine, but I am dead set on alex now.

There are 9 players. The two of your wagoning on me so quickly appears to be alex, the alpha wolf (in terms of experience) finding an opportunity to lynch me, and then the much less experienced GM Draclord following his colleague. This constitutes as a wagon to me because as you're scum it would only take a bit of persuasion to get the village to lynch their doctor, which it appears you're doing anyway. And like I said, not only did I want the village to be more efficient, I wanted myself to be more efficient. The theory was that once I'm the confirmed doctor, I would be able to lead the village through the day and then be killed tonight having killed 2 scum successfully, leaving one left, and I wouldn't have to fight off attacks and defend myself as well as trying to lead. But apparently this particular member of the scum is so hell bent on lynching me that he would do anything to get me killed...

It's not the same as a regular vote. This way we can come to a democratical conclusion which all villagers must participate in. Not a "I don't wanna lynch him because I know others think he's not scum and I don't think so" because if you do that you will lose to the village's majority and likely be lynched tomorrow. It lets the village take lead and power, and in an environment where the scum are unfamiliar with the system it should out them easier. It did this with you.

Yeah... well this WAS a game of 29 players. 2 one-shot vigs when there's 6 scum and a SK couple isn't a lot by any means, so I believe rev. I know that he's not confirmed until he shoots someone, but he's going to do so really soon and we are currently talking about who we should get him to kill. We may as well consider him confirmed in these discussions, as I doubt somewhat that we could convince him to kill himself with his vig lol.

Any more bullshit points you want to throw at me or..?

Also Porygon-X I saw that post! Basically, if we did that and SF was telling the truth... well SF and rev would be dead, and that would actually put us in LYLO situation. At least right now we are in MYLO, and we could get out of YLO altogether if rev hits a scum successfully. This is why I felt it should have been up to the village...

Oh hold on. If rev hits a villager either way he dies. I still prefer alex over SF now, but I prefer SF to GM Draclord.

Vote:
1) alex (2 points total)
2) Scorched Feathers (3 points total)

rev, do what you want, but it does look like your options now are alex and Scorched Feathers.

I'm going to ask all you guys directly now: Please can you give reads on alex?

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.

Why the sudden rush. Just because i suspect you Celever does not meant im a scum. Since you claim doctor im guessing you're a fake . Aka scum. Since i remembered that we kinda agreed that the doctor should stay out of the radar if we ever choose to massclaim. And yet you deciced to go on and claim doctor when only 2 votes on your head. It's like you are just moving the spotlight and put on the suspicion elsewhere. Theres a reason why i go support the KoN lynch and if you seen me and how i played you know why. Yes i seen like a bew player.. Its just becuase i used to play mafia since i was in primamry school.. Where i just treat it like RPG i'm much into analysis with soo much rumbling going on..

No, but I gave other reasons such as your flying under the radar, which could either be because you were new or not. I don't seriously suspect you though.

TheGuy gave the idea of the doctor faking it, I agree before anyone else, however, it should be in my right to claim my role if I feel like it is the right thing to do. The fact that you are giving me slack for this is actually really... I don't know. I don't know why someone would do that to me, to be honest, after I claim doctor. A scum would never be stupid enough to claim a role that is literally guaranteed (well, 99.99% chance reccurring) to be in the game, and I could be offended that you and alex take me for such a fool. That entire post was also echoing alex, and the more you post the more I can see you and alex being in a scum team being a very real probability. If rev does kill alex and he does indeed flip scum, you will also be considered scum as far as I'm concerned, since generally a scum's parrot is scum as well.

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.

Oh jeez. Um, sorry to any mods. I just read back and saw that I swore in one of my above posts. I'm being careful on this site but sometimes it just slips out I guess! >_>

 

[Porygon-X]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.

Basically, if we did that and SF was telling the truth... well SF and rev would be dead, and that would actually put us in LYLO situation. At least right now we are in MYLO, and we could get out of YLO altogether if rev hits a scum successfully. This is why I felt it should have been up to the village...

Oh dang, this didn't occur to me. In that case I don't think it's worth it at all for rev to make a kill because of this huge risk.

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.

Basically, if we did that and SF was telling the truth... well SF and rev would be dead, and that would actually put us in LYLO situation. At least right now we are in MYLO, and we could get out of YLO altogether if rev hits a scum successfully. This is why I felt it should have been up to the village...

Oh dang, this didn't occur to me. In that case I don't think it's worth it at all for rev to make a kill because of this huge risk.

Ahhh I don't even know actually. Think about it:
9 players; 3 confirmed towns
If rev hits scum, then great! 8 players, 4 confirmed towns, 2 mafias. Not even MYLO
If rev hits town, we also probably win. It would turn into 7 players, 3 comfirmed towns. We would be in LYLO situations for the rest of the game, but it really should be quite easy to get 2 of the scum. Then, with our redirector, we can figure out who the last scum is. I'll try and protect who I think it is, but as I can't protect myself (which I personally don't like. On other sites doctors can always protect themselves! ) I probably won't last a long time.

Because of this, I still think we should gun alex with rev. I really don't know what you guys think about it, though.

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.

Uhh... That paragraph doesn't make sense? "Guess what? Wolves don't have doctors, so you decided to claim doctor to make you a PR?" alex, let me put this out for you straight forward. In every single NOC to date (aside from the fun randomized ones) there is a doctor. In this game, the doctor isn't dead, and it is me. You are arguing with the doctor and you are time wasting heavily.

I have no idea what NOC means, but given we are in a PMJ game, and a PMJ game where only like half the town has roles, there is definitely a huge possibility of there not being a doctor. And just because you claimed Doc does not mean that the true doc (if you are not) is just smart enough to not CC you yet so that he doesn't die.

I wouldn't ever class that as an attack... You said it yourself:
"You have also been trying to ATE the town ever since I have started going after you, using lots of emojis etc., trying really badly to 'subtly' push my lynch"

"Subtly push my lynch". An attack isn't subtle. Also I forgot to respond before, but I always use emoticons (I'm british, it's an emoticon to me) and you've read enough of my posts to know that. Honestly... just stop clutching here and accept your fate. rev3rsor kill alex with your role. If it is incorrect then feel free to lynch me even though I am your doctor. I am that certain of this guy. The 2-person voting thing can now be for who to lynch. Rev, if you want to wait for more opinions, that's also fine, but I am dead set on alex now.

You are VOTING me. You are pushing for my lynch in EVERY one of your posts. And you are saying you WEREN'T attacking me? R3versor, do not shoot me. If I die the wolves can bandwagon on SF given his current votes and end the game.

There are 9 players. The two of your wagoning on me so quickly appears to be alex, the alpha wolf (in terms of experience) finding an opportunity to lynch me, and then the much less experienced GM Draclord following his colleague. This constitutes as a wagon to me because as you're scum it would only take a bit of persuasion to get the village to lynch their doctor, which it appears you're doing anyway. And like I said, not only did I want the village to be more efficient, I wanted myself to be more efficient. The theory was that once I'm the confirmed doctor, I would be able to lead the village through the day and then be killed tonight having killed 2 scum successfully, leaving one left, and I wouldn't have to fight off attacks and defend myself as well as trying to lead. But apparently this particular member of the scum is so hell bent on lynching me that he would do anything to get me killed...

Yeah... well this WAS a game of 29 players. 2 one-shot vigs when there's 6 scum and a SK couple isn't a lot by any means, so I believe rev. I know that he's not confirmed until he shoots someone, but he's going to do so really soon and we are currently talking about who we should get him to kill. We may as well consider him confirmed in these discussions, as I doubt somewhat that we could convince him to kill himself with his vig lol.

29 players, 6 scum, 3 Indies. 20 players. Half of which are vanilla. 10 PRs. You really think PMJ, a really creative role maker, is going to have 1/5 of the town's roles be the exact same thing?

It's not the same as a regular vote. This way we can come to a democratical conclusion which all villagers must participate in. Not a "I don't wanna lynch him because I know others think he's not scum and I don't think so" because if you do that you will lose to the village's majority and likely be lynched tomorrow. It lets the village take lead and power, and in an environment where the scum are unfamiliar with the system it should out them easier. It did this with you.

Vote:
1) alex (2 points total)
2) Scorched Feathers (3 points total)

rev, do what you want, but it does look like your options now are alex and Scorched Feathers.

"Hey, R3versor, we are going to do a super democratical lynch. Oh by the way since only 2 out of the 9 plays have used my innovative voting technique, guess you just have to kill one of the ones we picked!"

Not only are you doing this, I'm not even sure why you think this would ever "out" a wolf. Why would a wolf gaf about whether or not we did this? This is literally the same exact thing as a regular vote except you choose a second person and the votes don't actually lynch anyone. But since we are doing this so democratically, how about I get a voice? My first pick is Celever, and I'll opt out of my second one rn because I haven't decided yet.

And I think it needs to be noted how hard Celever was fishing for roles with that massclaim that everyone (one other person) agreed with.

 

[Scorched Feathers]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.

I honestly advise against using your ability on me rev, but it's up to you I guess o3o"

 

[Scorched Feathers]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.

Oh yeah and if we're voting to see who we want lynched most, it'd have to be Kecleon, who REALLY needs to reveal, or possibly alex/TheGuy, since they're both very good players who could very easily pilot scum very well o3o

 

[GM DracLord]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.

Or we just lynch the most inactive
As of day 6.

Im still abit not trusting you celever for revealing as a doc which make the twn vulnerable.. But then the angry reacting with curse and such doesnt look like it was orchestra. So that mean you are either a very convincing liar or a very angry vilager.. So i think your not lying by risking your forum status

##uninspect celever

Im gonna wait a bit for the other people to interact

 

[TheGuy]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.

Killing two people today is way too dangerous - if we miss on both we might lost if there's three scum.

Alright, I'm going to reveal and post my insights.

3. TheGuy
I am a seer who sees through safe claims 50% of the time, however, I don't know whether I'm seeing a safe claim or if I'm seeing an actual townie role so the only confirmed are the mafia/ indie roles that I see. I've seen those twice. The first time I saw one was Keeper which is why I pushed his lynch so heavily. The second was Cinesra (who I actually checked twice after I got his safeclaim the first time).

7. Porygon-X
I saw Porygon-X N0. I'm going to post his role since he's already confirmed town to confirm my role.

Role: DNA
Alignment: Members

You are DNA, a member of PokeBeach Forums. Disappointed with the state of Pokemon in general, you left for a time before coming back when you heard what was going on. Even though you're sided with the Members, you don't really care if they win or not. You just want to see an interesting competition.

Ability: Haunt
Once each night you may PM me the name of any player. If you would die that night, your chosen player will die instead. This ability can't be used again once you've successfully diverted a kill.

Win Condition: All non-Members eliminated

9. GM DracLord

I'm very much suspicious of him. Not all that active, doesn't contribute much, jumped on Celever pretty quickly, responded strangely when I voted for him, and was very quick to say that MTC was confirmed town (I'll explain why he's not a bit later.) If we decide to lynch him today I'd suspect MTC.

11. Machamp The Champion
He's likely to be town, but I wouldn't say he's confirmed now that I think about it. A wolf may very likely have the same one-shot although it is less likely. The only reason I might think he's possibly scum is that rev is also one shot vig and I find it not extremely likely that there's two town with that role.

13. Celever
I'm not certain he's town. He's honestly the hardest read for me. I need you to protect me tonight. If I die tonight, lynch Celever.

14. Scorched Feathers
Definitely one of my top scum reads. I've supported his lynch before and you know the case against him. Is strongly supporting Celever who drew a lot of attention away from him. If he is scum, I'd suspect Celever is too.

15. alex
Definitely suspicious for reasons which Celever stated.

18. rev3rsor
I can't see him claiming what he did if he wasn't town.

21. Kecleon-X
Hard to read because he's been so inactive. But that's one of the exact reasons I find him suspicious.

Confirmed Town:
rev, Porygon-X

Very Likely Town:
MTC

People who I'm not 100% sure:
Celever
alex
GM Drac
SF
Kec

If I were to pick three they'd be Drac, Celever, SF.
It could easily be Kecleon in substitution for Celever.

Also, Celever if rev picks someone incorrectly we have 8 people alive and three confirmed townies - you're forgetting that rev, one of our confirmed townies, dies.

Also, I would now advocate for a mass claim. All scum will be forced to post their real safe claims (which are many time noticeably underpowered) because I just might have seen their safe claim.

##Vote: GM Draclord

Of all the people I suspect I think he's most likely to be scum.