RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 6 ends June 17 at 12 PM CDT.
NOC = No Outside Communication = Every game on Pokebeach. OC (outside communication) occasionally doesn't have a town doctor, but almost always does. NOC just literally always does. It is a general rule on a couple of sites that if you create a set up it must have a doctor in it before it gets approved. Also yes IK that I am not confirmed doc because I claimed it, but for now there is no reason not to trust me unless another doc CCs, OK? The only thing that will result in that, though, is that you will immediately vote for me wagoning on your scum member's CC, the whole day will be spent arguing (like this right now!) and there will be NL, then tomorrow if we lynch incorrectly we lose, but if we have a seer, he can inspect the CC. Things like doctors don't come up in safe claims, it just doesn't happen! Yes, it gives doctors, seers etc. a free pass through the game (OR IT SHOULD IF ALEX ISN'T PLAYING!) but that's just how it turns out, usually. If, by the end of the day, you still contest my status as doctor, Rev will kill you unless youc an provide sufficient reasoning as to why I wouldn't be. Your "just because you claimed it doesn't mean you are it" thought proccess makes you either an INCREDIBLY stubborn villager who is being more detrimental to the village than I thought was possible (arguing with the doctor...) or a scum. And you are almost certainly a scum.
?-? This paragraph makes no sense, either. Yes I'm attacking you, however at that point of time I wasn't. I made a "subtle" passive-agressive nip at you which you blew out of proportion. This has always been a good way to find scum, because they tend to get a bit over-emotional later in the game with their defenses, villagers don't for the most part.
Half of which are vanillas? I can't even remembering a vanilla dying... And if there were 10 vanillas, we're only down to.... What, 6 now? The 2 one shots and I have PRs which means that SF can be telling the truth, and then the rest of your are vanilla?
Also why the hell are there 3 indies now? There's only the 2 porygons as far as we know....
LMAO if that is actually a slip it will absolutely make my day.
You guys have a vote. I'm glad that you used it, alex, as I will happily sacrifice myself to see you lynched afterwards. Revenge is sweet, so if enough votes come unto me to get me killed, I will do so to see you have the same fate immediately afterwards.
Why would ever gaf about it? BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE KILLED BY IT! I immediately voted for you and put you in the lead and then you immediately got defensive about it. As a protection maneuvour, whatever, but you're defensive about it because you could see wagoning on you with this vote a very real possibility.
Also sure, I was slightly fishing for roles with the mass claim. I wanted to see who to protect. I didn't think that there would be THAT many PRs left, and so I figured the mass claim with the doctor faking another role (I would've just found an old user and made myself a vanilla) would actually be good for us. Apparently not, and i can kinda see why now. Still, the main PR left has claimed anyway. I can only hope that the redirector doesn't claim, too, because apparently claiming your role in this game is really fricking scummy!
alex said:Celever said:Uhh... That paragraph doesn't make sense? "Guess what? Wolves don't have doctors, so you decided to claim doctor to make you a PR?" alex, let me put this out for you straight forward. In every single NOC to date (aside from the fun randomized ones) there is a doctor. In this game, the doctor isn't dead, and it is me. You are arguing with the doctor and you are time wasting heavily.
I have no idea what NOC means, but given we are in a PMJ game, and a PMJ game where only like half the town has roles, there is definitely a huge possibility of there not being a doctor. And just because you claimed Doc does not mean that the true doc (if you are not) is just smart enough to not CC you yet so that he doesn't die.
Celever said:I wouldn't ever class that as an attack... You said it yourself:
"You have also been trying to ATE the town ever since I have started going after you, using lots of emojis etc., trying really badly to 'subtly' push my lynch"
"Subtly push my lynch". An attack isn't subtle. Also I forgot to respond before, but I always use emoticons (I'm british, it's an emoticon to me) and you've read enough of my posts to know that. Honestly... just stop clutching here and accept your fate. rev3rsor kill alex with your role. If it is incorrect then feel free to lynch me even though I am your doctor. I am that certain of this guy. The 2-person voting thing can now be for who to lynch. Rev, if you want to wait for more opinions, that's also fine, but I am dead set on alex now.
You are VOTING me. You are pushing for my lynch in EVERY one of your posts. And you are saying you WEREN'T attacking me? R3versor, do not shoot me. If I die the wolves can bandwagon on SF given his current votes and end the game.
Celever said:There are 9 players. The two of your wagoning on me so quickly appears to be alex, the alpha wolf (in terms of experience) finding an opportunity to lynch me, and then the much less experienced GM Draclord following his colleague. This constitutes as a wagon to me because as you're scum it would only take a bit of persuasion to get the village to lynch their doctor, which it appears you're doing anyway. And like I said, not only did I want the village to be more efficient, I wanted myself to be more efficient. The theory was that once I'm the confirmed doctor, I would be able to lead the village through the day and then be killed tonight having killed 2 scum successfully, leaving one left, and I wouldn't have to fight off attacks and defend myself as well as trying to lead. But apparently this particular member of the scum is so hell bent on lynching me that he would do anything to get me killed...
Celever said:Yeah... well this WAS a game of 29 players. 2 one-shot vigs when there's 6 scum and a SK couple isn't a lot by any means, so I believe rev. I know that he's not confirmed until he shoots someone, but he's going to do so really soon and we are currently talking about who we should get him to kill. We may as well consider him confirmed in these discussions, as I doubt somewhat that we could convince him to kill himself with his vig lol.
29 players, 6 scum, 3 Indies. 20 players. Half of which are vanilla. 10 PRs. You really think PMJ, a really creative role maker, is going to have 1/5 of the town's roles be the exact same thing?
Celever said:It's not the same as a regular vote. This way we can come to a democratical conclusion which all villagers must participate in. Not a "I don't wanna lynch him because I know others think he's not scum and I don't think so" because if you do that you will lose to the village's majority and likely be lynched tomorrow. It lets the village take lead and power, and in an environment where the scum are unfamiliar with the system it should out them easier. It did this with you.
Vote:
1) alex (2 points total)
2) Scorched Feathers (3 points total)
rev, do what you want, but it does look like your options now are alex and Scorched Feathers.
"Hey, R3versor, we are going to do a super democratical lynch. Oh by the way since only 2 out of the 9 plays have used my innovative voting technique, guess you just have to kill one of the ones we picked!"
Not only are you doing this, I'm not even sure why you think this would ever "out" a wolf. Why would a wolf gaf about whether or not we did this? This is literally the same exact thing as a regular vote except you choose a second person and the votes don't actually lynch anyone. But since we are doing this so democratically, how about I get a voice? My first pick is Celever, and I'll opt out of my second one rn because I haven't decided yet.
And I think it needs to be noted how hard Celever was fishing for roles with that massclaim that everyone (one other person) agreed with.
NOC = No Outside Communication = Every game on Pokebeach. OC (outside communication) occasionally doesn't have a town doctor, but almost always does. NOC just literally always does. It is a general rule on a couple of sites that if you create a set up it must have a doctor in it before it gets approved. Also yes IK that I am not confirmed doc because I claimed it, but for now there is no reason not to trust me unless another doc CCs, OK? The only thing that will result in that, though, is that you will immediately vote for me wagoning on your scum member's CC, the whole day will be spent arguing (like this right now!) and there will be NL, then tomorrow if we lynch incorrectly we lose, but if we have a seer, he can inspect the CC. Things like doctors don't come up in safe claims, it just doesn't happen! Yes, it gives doctors, seers etc. a free pass through the game (OR IT SHOULD IF ALEX ISN'T PLAYING!) but that's just how it turns out, usually. If, by the end of the day, you still contest my status as doctor, Rev will kill you unless youc an provide sufficient reasoning as to why I wouldn't be. Your "just because you claimed it doesn't mean you are it" thought proccess makes you either an INCREDIBLY stubborn villager who is being more detrimental to the village than I thought was possible (arguing with the doctor...) or a scum. And you are almost certainly a scum.
?-? This paragraph makes no sense, either. Yes I'm attacking you, however at that point of time I wasn't. I made a "subtle" passive-agressive nip at you which you blew out of proportion. This has always been a good way to find scum, because they tend to get a bit over-emotional later in the game with their defenses, villagers don't for the most part.
Half of which are vanillas? I can't even remembering a vanilla dying... And if there were 10 vanillas, we're only down to.... What, 6 now? The 2 one shots and I have PRs which means that SF can be telling the truth, and then the rest of your are vanilla?
Also why the hell are there 3 indies now? There's only the 2 porygons as far as we know....
LMAO if that is actually a slip it will absolutely make my day.
You guys have a vote. I'm glad that you used it, alex, as I will happily sacrifice myself to see you lynched afterwards. Revenge is sweet, so if enough votes come unto me to get me killed, I will do so to see you have the same fate immediately afterwards.
Why would ever gaf about it? BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE KILLED BY IT! I immediately voted for you and put you in the lead and then you immediately got defensive about it. As a protection maneuvour, whatever, but you're defensive about it because you could see wagoning on you with this vote a very real possibility.
Also sure, I was slightly fishing for roles with the mass claim. I wanted to see who to protect. I didn't think that there would be THAT many PRs left, and so I figured the mass claim with the doctor faking another role (I would've just found an old user and made myself a vanilla) would actually be good for us. Apparently not, and i can kinda see why now. Still, the main PR left has claimed anyway. I can only hope that the redirector doesn't claim, too, because apparently claiming your role in this game is really fricking scummy!