Finished Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Members win!

[SMP]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

WW, I always have this thread open.

Lets take a second to straighten out exactly what we know.
- There are at least 3 factions (Members, Mods and Porygon)
- The Porygon faction has a SK
- Drohn said that KoN is part of Porygon based on some info he got due to his role
- KoN is claiming Self Watcher who got 0 results N0 and 2 results N1
- Camoclone is claiming Reporter
- Safe claims are in play
- There should be a Role Cop due to PMJ's revelation that players appear town when investigated.

I think that's all for reveals. Now for questions/statements.
- Camo, you made the post at the beginning of D1 too?
- KoN (or anyone really) can you quote the first couple posts where you claim Self Watcher?
- Cobalt, being wrong is not a reason for scummyness. Everyone is going to be wrong at some point during this game. There are too many moving pieces for everyone to be correct all the time. It's how you go about being wrong that's important. Get a read wrong, not so bad. Mess up a claim, bad. Things like that.
- I think we're better off thinking simpler in terms of roles right now. There's no need for all this talk about people modifying other's roles and all that. Assume that all roles are vanilla for right now. Role Cop, Seer, Watcher, Tracker, Doctor, Bulletproof, Godfather, etc. As more role cards are flipped we can begin to see if there are any variations to there types of roles. Assuming all these complicated roles just means we'll miss the easy roles that are the ones that will really give us problems.

 

[sillykyle]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

^This. I dare you to guys to go find one WW game where I've posted like crazy in the early stages of the game, then get back to me.

You don't post fluff either. And this game all you've done is post fluff. You've made five posts, and only one of them really had any substance.

Let me rephrase that. I don't post for no reason.

 

[Porygon-X]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Porygon-X, Kecleon-X is your brother. You should be able to read him well. What do you think? Don't you agree with me?

To be honest, all his posts in werewolf games come across a little scummy to me, and how he's posting now doesn't seem any more scummy than his previous games.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

- Camo, you made the post at the beginning of D1 too?

Yes and I will be making all other announcements in future days unless I die or something else happens.

 

[WanderingWolf]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

You don't post fluff either. And this game all you've done is post fluff. You've made five posts, and only one of them really had any substance.

Let me rephrase that. I don't post for no reason.

So... you're intentionally posting fluff?

Brb, going to back to quote KoN claiming.

 

[WanderingWolf]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

In addition to what Porygon already pointed out, I do know, as I stated previously, that two members did target me last night. I do not know if they were actually role-blockers or not.

How did you know who targetted you.. Do you have an ability to see those?

A sort of passive effect, yeah. I just get informed who targets me at night, but I don't get to know what they did.

Keeper you also dont know whether the person target ped you succedd or failed using their abilities on you right?.

I only know they targeted me. Nothing else.

I'm not taking credit for RVS, nor would I want to, since I think it's absolutely crazy. But nobody took your vote against Drohn seriously but Drohn himself. I pointed out his reaction and questioned it, that I will "take credit for."

What does the bolded part mean. If anyone with a targeting role targeted KoN N0 please tell us.

My effect's wording says I may be given names of who targeted me at night. I'm going to assume that there is either a chance involved or I only recognize certain roles or something similar.

@Camo, I've only claimed my role name and a passive effect. That does not mean I wish to make my entire role public.

@Celever, I do not believe Camo is tunneling. He's just questioning on a larger scale, which is fine in moderation.

I missed this earlier... Fair enough. Could you quote your whole passive effect though?

Yeah, that I could do:

Passive Effect: HINTZ
You may be alerted when other players target you at night.

So for all I know, there could have been more than two players on me last night, as that would definitely increase the chances of me knowing two of them.

Sorry for the double post, here are all of KoN's relevant posts to his claim.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Silly is scummy... Really scummy. But for some reason if he was scum I doubt he would act like this. I'm thinking a speech imped right now but I don't know.

@SMP who do you want to lynch today?

 

[WanderingWolf]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Silly is scummy... Really scummy. But for some reason if he was scum I doubt he would act like this. I'm thinking a speech imped right now but I don't know.

@SMP who do you want to lynch today?

I'm thinking independent honestly. Staying around, just outside the line of sight, posting fluff. Usually a speech impediment means you have a post something in all of your posts, not that you have to stick by a set theme. Especially when that theme can come down to PMJ being subjective.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Silly is scummy... Really scummy. But for some reason if he was scum I doubt he would act like this. I'm thinking a speech imped right now but I don't know.

@SMP who do you want to lynch today?

I'm thinking independent honestly. Staying around, just outside the line of sight, posting fluff. Usually a speech impediment means you have a post something in all of your posts, not that you have to stick by a set theme. Especially when that theme can come down to PMJ being subjective.

I'm not thinking independent... A SK and partner is huge in a small setup. Not to mention we still need to lynch indies to win. I doubt he would act like this as an indie either.

 

[Cobalt Phoenix]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

I'm curious about what's with the random image (and the fake self-vote) in http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thr...ds-may-22-at-12-pm-cdt?pid=2626669#pid2626669.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

I'm curious about what's with the random image (and the fake self-vote) in http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thr...ds-may-22-at-12-pm-cdt?pid=2626669#pid2626669.

...
Can we please lynch him?

 

[WanderingWolf]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

That's what I, and I assume alex, mean by fluff, Cobalt. Random crap he doesn't usually do.

 

[SMP]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

So KoN did mess up his claim. That's what I was looking for.

Starts off saying that he is a Self Watcher, then changes it to "may" get who targeted him.

I imagine Silly has some sort of agenda. People don't act the way he did for no reason. I'd be fine with keeping him for right now though.

Camo, why say that you're 1-shot seer on D1 then announce that you're the Reporter on D2 without being provoked?

I'm not sure who to vote for yet. KoN is an option, but I'd like to see a VC first before deciding anything.

 

[SMP]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

I'm curious about what's with the random image (and the fake self-vote) in http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thr...ds-may-22-at-12-pm-cdt?pid=2626669#pid2626669.

The image is the Illuminati eye.

 

[WanderingWolf]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

So KoN did mess up his claim. That's what I was looking for.

Starts off saying that he is a Self Watcher, then changes it to "may" get who targeted him.

I imagine Silly has some sort of agenda. People don't act the way he did for no reason. I'd be fine with keeping him for right now though.

Camo, why say that you're 1-shot seer on D1 then announce that you're the Reporter on D2 without being provoked?

I'm not sure who to vote for yet. KoN is an option, but I'd like to see a VC first before deciding anything.

Read back, camo recently announced why he claimed. Also, Keeper saying he may see who targeted him is still self watching lol.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

So KoN did mess up his claim. That's what I was looking for.

Starts off saying that he is a Self Watcher, then changes it to "may" get who targeted him.

I imagine Silly has some sort of agenda. People don't act the way he did for no reason. I'd be fine with keeping him for right now though.

Camo, why say that you're 1-shot seer on D1 then announce that you're the Reporter on D2 without being provoked?

I'm not sure who to vote for yet. KoN is an option, but I'd like to see a VC first before deciding anything.

Read back, camo recently announced why he claimed. Also, Keeper saying he may see who targeted him is still self watching lol.

QFT... I answered both questions.

 

[WanderingWolf]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

Read back, camo recently announced why he claimed. Also, Keeper saying he may see who targeted him is still self watching lol.

QFT... I answered both questions.

Yes... quantum field theory indeed. What does QFT mean? And yes, I did look it up first, didn't find anything.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

QFT... I answered both questions.

Yes... quantum field theory indeed. What does QFT mean? And yes, I did look it up first, didn't find anything.

Quote for this or quoted for truth. It's not a mafia term.

 

[SMP]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

So KoN did mess up his claim. That's what I was looking for.

Starts off saying that he is a Self Watcher, then changes it to "may" get who targeted him.

I imagine Silly has some sort of agenda. People don't act the way he did for no reason. I'd be fine with keeping him for right now though.

Camo, why say that you're 1-shot seer on D1 then announce that you're the Reporter on D2 without being provoked?

I'm not sure who to vote for yet. KoN is an option, but I'd like to see a VC first before deciding anything.

Read back, camo recently announced why he claimed. Also, Keeper saying he may see who targeted him is still self watching lol.

You mean this?

Camo, I have a question: Why did you reveal being the reporter? I ask mainly due to a post in the first day with you saying that 'reporter is already lying'.
I know that you did it so new players could join the older players with already knowing you as the reporter, but it kind of makes your role null and void :/

My role was already null and void unless people believed he was town. I was hoping that my reveal will make people listen and pay more attention to it. And because I figured someone else would have pointed it out (it is better for me to reveal then for another to point it out).

Unless I'm missing something (which is very possible), when did Camo reveal who he used the 1-shot seer on? That's mainly what I'm interested in.

I know that KoN is still a self watcher. If he's town there was no reason for him to leave out the conditional "may" from his initial reveal though.

 

[PMJ]

RE: Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Day 2 ends May 22 at 12 PM CDT.

L-5 Keeper of Night: 6 (Camoclone Scorched Feathers, Jeremy1026, TheGuy, Camoclone rev3rsor, Machamp The Champion, Porygon-X)
Jeremy1026: 0 (Teal Camoclone)
Camoclone: 1 (Celever)
TheGuy: 0 (Teal)
L-5 Cobalt Phoenix: 6 (Camoclone Camoclone, Keeper of Night, WanderingWolf, Kecleon-X, Celever)
Cinesra: 0 (WanderingWolf)
sillykyle: 1 (alex)
Kecleon-X: 1 (Teal)

Not voting: 7 (Cinesra, Haunted Water, GM DracLord, Athena, sillykyle, Cobalt Phoenix, SMP)