RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 5 Ends August 26th
And you know this... How? Or did I miss something?
alex said:
And you know this... How? Or did I miss something?
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RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 5 Ends August 26th
Alex may have taken the bolded part to mean that all invaders had a variation of this ability.
Keeper of Night said:
TheGuy said:
Alex may have taken the bolded part to mean that all invaders had a variation of this ability.
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Or it could be a result of Alex's ability possibly.
Or it could be a result of Alex's ability possibly.
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alex, you keep on saying that Chaos Jackal should use his ability on you again tonight, which he can't because he said he can only use it on even numbered nights. Thus we would have to wait another day for that, and that might not be worth the wait.
Also when you say you'll reveal when you the last royalist is killed, you make it sound like that will be very soon, but it probably won't. We've gotten very lucky hitting Royalists with our lynches, but it might be a while before we can kill the last one.
Essentially, your whole argument for not lynching you is that we should wait, but without that much other evidence, it seems like you're the best to vote for right now.
alex, you keep on saying that Chaos Jackal should use his ability on you again tonight, which he can't because he said he can only use it on even numbered nights. Thus we would have to wait another day for that, and that might not be worth the wait.
Also when you say you'll reveal when you the last royalist is killed, you make it sound like that will be very soon, but it probably won't. We've gotten very lucky hitting Royalists with our lynches, but it might be a while before we can kill the last one.
Essentially, your whole argument for not lynching you is that we should wait, but without that much other evidence, it seems like you're the best to vote for right now.
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There's not even any information for my lynch, Wailord. And yes, saying to wait is exactly what I am saying. Like you said, we have a lot of people left. Why would you ever rush it and lynch a PR with the option to wait 1 day and not only save him but also use the lynch on someone else? I didn't realize CJ could only use it every other night, but that should not make a difference.
What I'm saying is, considering this lynch has such little evidence behind it, what is the harm in waiting? If I'm the last wolf, I'm not winning this lol. I couldn't kill 22 people in 2 nights. And if I was an Invader, there would still not be much risk to lynching me. You might gain an extra day of info from my lynch, sure, but you already know both of my abilities and know they would be no help to Invaders if I was on their team. And while their is no risk to waiting, we gain a confirmed PR.
There's not even any information for my lynch, Wailord. And yes, saying to wait is exactly what I am saying. Like you said, we have a lot of people left. Why would you ever rush it and lynch a PR with the option to wait 1 day and not only save him but also use the lynch on someone else? I didn't realize CJ could only use it every other night, but that should not make a difference.
What I'm saying is, considering this lynch has such little evidence behind it, what is the harm in waiting? If I'm the last wolf, I'm not winning this lol. I couldn't kill 22 people in 2 nights. And if I was an Invader, there would still not be much risk to lynching me. You might gain an extra day of info from my lynch, sure, but you already know both of my abilities and know they would be no help to Invaders if I was on their team. And while their is no risk to waiting, we gain a confirmed PR.
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The harm is, alex, that the scum (assuming you aren't one) now know 2 town power roles. Even if the don't kill you because you are under suspicion, they have no reason to not take Jackal out. We don't have the time to wait.
Now, I stick to what I said before:
Claim and maybe the doc will help you, or don't claim and be lynched so the doctor can go on Jackal (hoping we have one).
The harm is, alex, that the scum (assuming you aren't one) now know 2 town power roles. Even if the don't kill you because you are under suspicion, they have no reason to not take Jackal out. We don't have the time to wait.
Now, I stick to what I said before:
You have said nothing about the double vote we know you have.Keeper of Night said:
Claim and maybe the doc will help you, or don't claim and be lynched so the doctor can go on Jackal (hoping we have one).
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It's crazy how so many scumtells can fit into such a short post. Let's break this down, shall we?
- You said that all the invaders have "abilities that add something special to their kill". Considering how only one invader has been killed so far, as a group, we know nothing about the rest of the invaders' abilities. Saying that all of the invaders have such an ability is a bit of a stretch, and unlikely to be an assumption.
- The name of an ability or passive effect may be helpful in determining what it does, but it's very easy for someone to come up with an alternate effect. Just look at the abilities of the dead players - some of them are vague and could mean a number of things. The names of a person's abilities should not automatically clear them, which is what you are trying to claim is the case.
- If I'm not mistaken, Chaos Jackal said that he can only use his ability every other night. Since he found out about your "Survival" ability the other night, he'll have to wait two nights to give his results, by which time he could be killed, allowing you two extra days to live. We've also got to consider the possibility that Chaos Jackal is also an invader, and the two of you have set this all up. CJ could have been lying about his ability to learn ability names (or could be telling the truth, this part doesn't really matter) and giving the town this information to gain townie cred. If you're lynched today because of this, he gets a lot more people to trust that he's a townie as well. If we do decide to hear you out and wait for a second result from CJ, he can back up your claim, effectively semi-clearing the both of you, and at the very least buying the invaders some extra time.
This is exactly why I support an alex lynch today, and depending on the results when he flips, we should look into Chaos Jackal afterwards. Ice Espeon has also caught my attention, as he/she is trying to divert attention away from the alex lynch to Porygon and Kecleon, two players who haven't even been too active. My eye will be on you as well.
alex said:
It's crazy how so many scumtells can fit into such a short post. Let's break this down, shall we?
- You said that all the invaders have "abilities that add something special to their kill". Considering how only one invader has been killed so far, as a group, we know nothing about the rest of the invaders' abilities. Saying that all of the invaders have such an ability is a bit of a stretch, and unlikely to be an assumption.
- The name of an ability or passive effect may be helpful in determining what it does, but it's very easy for someone to come up with an alternate effect. Just look at the abilities of the dead players - some of them are vague and could mean a number of things. The names of a person's abilities should not automatically clear them, which is what you are trying to claim is the case.
- If I'm not mistaken, Chaos Jackal said that he can only use his ability every other night. Since he found out about your "Survival" ability the other night, he'll have to wait two nights to give his results, by which time he could be killed, allowing you two extra days to live. We've also got to consider the possibility that Chaos Jackal is also an invader, and the two of you have set this all up. CJ could have been lying about his ability to learn ability names (or could be telling the truth, this part doesn't really matter) and giving the town this information to gain townie cred. If you're lynched today because of this, he gets a lot more people to trust that he's a townie as well. If we do decide to hear you out and wait for a second result from CJ, he can back up your claim, effectively semi-clearing the both of you, and at the very least buying the invaders some extra time.
This is exactly why I support an alex lynch today, and depending on the results when he flips, we should look into Chaos Jackal afterwards. Ice Espeon has also caught my attention, as he/she is trying to divert attention away from the alex lynch to Porygon and Kecleon, two players who haven't even been too active. My eye will be on you as well.
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Also, this is one of the hugest stretches I've ever seen. Not a chance.
Ice Espeon said:
Also, this is one of the hugest stretches I've ever seen. Not a chance.
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The sarcasm is strong in this one.
There's really not much evidence to support that claim. Just because one scum member had it, that says nothing about any of the other (4, maybe 5 invaders).
alex said:
The sarcasm is strong in this one.
There's really not much evidence to support that claim. Just because one scum member had it, that says nothing about any of the other (4, maybe 5 invaders).
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TT, I said nothing about Porygon. I would have also posted my opinions on Kecleon today whether anyone was under pressure or not.
Our immediate priority right now should be to find the last Royalist. Here is why:
Let me emphasise this point: killing a royalist halves the amount of town deaths per night, giving the town much more time to find and lynch the invaders.
If you believe that alex is a royalist then fine, leave your vote on him. However, if you don't think he is a royalist and are voting for him because you think he is an invader, then there is no point. Find the last royalist and then lynch him. Taking out the last Royalist should be our only concern at this moment, as doing anything else is not in the town's favour.
TT, I said nothing about Porygon. I would have also posted my opinions on Kecleon today whether anyone was under pressure or not.
Our immediate priority right now should be to find the last Royalist. Here is why:
- There seem to be only two factions capable of a night kill: royalists and invaders.
- Therefore at the moment there are a maximum of two townies being killed at night.
- It is highly probable that there is more than one invader remaining.
- It is highly probable that there is only one royalist remaining.
- By extension, lynching an invader will result in the maximum amount of townie deaths per night remaining at two.
- By extension, lynching a royalist will result in the maximum amount of townie deaths per night being reduced to just one.
Let me emphasise this point: killing a royalist halves the amount of town deaths per night, giving the town much more time to find and lynch the invaders.
If you believe that alex is a royalist then fine, leave your vote on him. However, if you don't think he is a royalist and are voting for him because you think he is an invader, then there is no point. Find the last royalist and then lynch him. Taking out the last Royalist should be our only concern at this moment, as doing anything else is not in the town's favour.
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Despite how you opened that post, this is extremely evasive. I am not responding to Ice Espeon for the very reason that you could get away if I do. Not that I don't agree with his points, I just believe you are the better lynch today.
I'll say it one more time, and this time, disregard any previous half-answers you gave me.
Claim now. Each faction knows you have something to hide at this point.
Quote please, I have yet to see you give any definite answers.alex said:
alex said:
Despite how you opened that post, this is extremely evasive. I am not responding to Ice Espeon for the very reason that you could get away if I do. Not that I don't agree with his points, I just believe you are the better lynch today.
I'll say it one more time, and this time, disregard any previous half-answers you gave me.
Claim now. Each faction knows you have something to hide at this point.
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We can't take that chance. There's a rather good chance that you are the last Royalist in question. And it isn't worth keeping you alive on the off chance Jackal does survive long enough to target you and reveal your other ability.
alex said:
We can't take that chance. There's a rather good chance that you are the last Royalist in question. And it isn't worth keeping you alive on the off chance Jackal does survive long enough to target you and reveal your other ability.
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"it isn't worth keeping me alive"
Lol. I was gonna list all the reasons why it is so not not worth keeping me alive but then I decided not to bother. And along those lines, I'm not even going bother repeating all the reasons I have already posted in my defense.
Keeper of Night said:
"it isn't worth keeping me alive"
Lol. I was gonna list all the reasons why it is so not not worth keeping me alive but then I decided not to bother. And along those lines, I'm not even going bother repeating all the reasons I have already posted in my defense.
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