Finished Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - The Order of the Phoenix is the Winner!

[Keeper of Night]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

I'm not making assumptions, and I did have a quote. >.>
You're telling people that we are lynching somebody, implying that you've already decided who will be lynched. By choosing he lynch somebody this early, it implies wanting to end the day early.
It doesn't take a genius to put 2 and 2 together.

 

[Shining Goodra]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

So, apparently I was beaten down in bed? Darn.. that's no fun. FYI, I work 10 hours a day Monday through Friday and sometimes I'm way to tired to jump online and check the progress.

I'll be on throughout the weekends actively though, I look forward to discussing topics. At the moment I'm still reading over each post and trying to give myself a better understanding on what's all going on.

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

I'm not making assumptions, and I did have a quote. >.>
You're telling people that we are lynching somebody, implying that you've already decided who will be lynched. By choosing he lynch somebody this early, it implies wanting to end the day early.
It doesn't take a genius to put 2 and 2 together.

Not really? I'm not phrasing things that cleverly. The town is currently lynching you -- if the day were to end right now, you would be lynched. So I just said that we are currently lynching you and posted the case why. Nothing more...

You really did just try and do a bunch of assumptions which seem a bit true as a way to stop this lynch on you in a casual, sneaky way...

Also if you have a quote, click the quote button on it. Easy.

 

[Lenny]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

##UNVOTE: KEEPER OF NIGHT
##VOTE: LENNY
I summon thee.

As of now, those^ two are the only two I'm ok with lynching.

It's not RVS anymore. It's day 2, if you have suspicion on me, or anyone, you better have reasoning behind it. You've been doing this since day 1. I have posted several multi-paragraph responses to you and others. If you refuse to read them or respond to them and continue voting me, go ahead. But that is not helping the town at all.

The announcer said to look into me. Fine, look into me. I've nothing to hide at all. Ask me questions based off of your suspicions so I can refute every single point. Use your night actions on me if you want and find out I'm town (although you probably shouldn't reveal who you are). But if you just vote for me without saying why, exactly like you did during day 1, I will call you out on it and that is pretty scummy behavior to me.

I think KoN didn't mean too much by what he said, but I'm honestly not sure. I don't think it's a good idea to push a vote. There's still plenty to discuss and while KoN may be a decent lynch at the moment, I'm not convinced. I'm sure as more people read the thread they'll provide their insight.

 

[Shining Goodra]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

I have to agree with Celever here, all that's being done is pushing the lynch on one player and providing information to why the vote should be pushed.

KoN is simply countering and trying to defend himself from lynch, assumptions or not he's still not going overboard on much yet to receive my vote.

I will let this unfold some more, so I feel I make the right vote/decision.

 

[Jeremy1026]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

So, apparently I was beaten down in bed? Darn.. that's no fun. FYI, I work 10 hours a day Monday through Friday and sometimes I'm way to tired to jump online and check the progress.

I'll be on throughout the weekends actively though, I look forward to discussing topics. At the moment I'm still reading over each post and trying to give myself a better understanding on what's all going on.

Well, until the next day phase. The night update made it sound like you'll be dying soon thanks to a delayed kill.

 

[Keeper of Night]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

Also if you have a quote, click the quote button on it. Easy.

That's not at all what I said and that is not why we are lynching him, but yeah what you said is true.

Don't bother asking for quotes if you can't tell when I post them or not.
The very post you responded to asking for a quote did in fact have a quote, which my entire post was responding to.

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

Oh sorry, I was asking for a quote on your 2nd and 3rd points. You had your 1st point there just fine, even though it's a fairly bad point.

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

Edit: By "having your first point there just fine" I meant I could see a bit how you got that inference. I read back and I still can't. Please actually prove these things as opposed to just stating the,...

 

[Shining Goodra]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

Great, so I'm going to die from a "delayed kill".. Come on, I know I'm stronger than that! This was no fun at all.. :/

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

Great, so I'm going to die from a "delayed kill".. Come on, I know I'm stronger than that! This was no fun at all.. :/

Someone mentioned it before, but you should just claim. It gives us a better idea of what we're working with here, and it's not like you have a nightkill to be afraid of as you're dying anyway >_>

And yeah, while early deaths are no fun at all, they do have to happen to someone :[

 

[bbninjas]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

Also: since when do vigilantes have kills that take an extra day to resolve?

Miller is more in line with Snape's character.

Since Luis decided to become creative. Anyway, there is not a confirmed vig.

I'm going to come to the defense of Keeper. People shouldn't be posting just for the sake of reaching some kind of posting minimum. Posting 92 times in one day without any substance to give in 50 of them isn't great for the town. As long as people are consistently posting when they have something important to say, then they're posting enough. It's just as scummy to not post at all as it is to post unnecessarily many many times in my opinion. Keeper will be doing what I'm usually doing (expect for today because of this ridiculous 10 post minimum), reading and keeping up with the thread but not feeling the need to post about every single subject (many times multiple times) reiterating the same points that have already been brought up by that person already and others.

*shifty eyes*
Well... I hope everyone reads this... but I'm going to be at least half inactive from the next 24 hours to Aus' New Year due to a short holiday.

I honestly don't think this jump onto Keeper is a very good thing at all. There's barely any proof against him, except for the somewhat logical point of him flying low. I don't see why he would say that when he is town, anyway.

There two main people I'm suspicious of, and another who's acting weird.
Camo, he's only posted 2 posts this day, which is pretty abnormal for him.
Lenny I'm still suspicious of due to his illogical argument...
But Machamp the Champion. His push on Teal's lynch is scummy, and then the first thing he did oN day 2 was try and get it going again. Also, the newspaper suggested looking into MtC (and Lenny), which is something that would be more viable then lynching KoN.

 

[grantm1999]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

Lenny I've already given reasons but here are some more.

1) I find your posts scummy.
2) you're trying too hard and reacted too much when I put light rvs pressure on you.
3) when suspicion left you and went to ninjas you backed off and only replied when I called you out on it.
4) I'm not the journalist so evidently others feel the way I do.

Your posts are spontaneous but you've already explained that away iirc.
Better lynch options anyone? Oh, and where did teal go?

 

[grantm1999]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

Never mind teal posted today already. Goodra a claim and any info you have would be great right about now, unless you think there's a way you can survive.

 

[TheGuy]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

Lenny I'm still suspicious of due to his illogical argument...

I'm sorry, I missed this. What was Lenny's illogical argument?

 

[bbninjas]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

-snip-

That ^ was the start of the 'argument'. I'm still suspicious of some of his points, but some here cleared up so...

 

[Lenny]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

Lenny I've already given reasons but here are some more.

1) I find your posts scummy.
Cool, everybody is allowed to have hunches.
2) you're trying too hard and reacted too much when I put light rvs pressure on you.
wtf is this bs? Trying too hard? You think I'm scum. I'm responding because people already joined the bandwagon on you during Day 1 without you having any proof. It's not RVS at this point, stop hiding behind it. You're trying to get me lynched with nothing but a "hunch" and I have every right to defend myself from your accusations.
3) when suspicion left you and went to ninjas you backed off and only replied when I called you out on it.
this is pure bs. I responded to the suspicions brought up about drac and voted. And then I responded to your post as well. If you're not gonna take the time to read my posts yet accuse me of being scummy, then I won't take the time to respond to you any more.
4) I'm not the journalist so evidently others feel the way I do.
we don't know you aren't so that means nothing. And if you aren't, that's 1 more person who also finds another person suspicious. But that's just it, it's all hunches from an announcer that has no confirmed alignment

Your posts are spontaneous but you've already explained that away iirc.
Better lynch options anyone? Oh, and where did teal go?

Responses in bold. And I'll keep responding if people are just gonna willy nilly say I'm suspicious and vote for me with nothing to back it up. I don't care if I have 1 vote or 20 votes, if it's bs reasoning I will call you out.

 

[TheGuy]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

That ^ was the start of the 'argument'. I'm still suspicious of some of his points, but some here cleared up so...

While I didn't agree with Lenny's argument, I don't consider the people who disagree with it scummy.

I am however conflicted about the new evidence that has arisen. I didn't agree with grant's initial voting for Lenny, Lenny's reaction seems a bit severe and out of character for him.

 

[Lenny]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

That ^ was the start of the 'argument'. I'm still suspicious of some of his points, but some here cleared up so...

While I didn't agree with Lenny's argument, I don't consider the people who disagree with it scummy.

I am however conflicted about the new evidence that has arisen. I didn't agree with grant's initial voting for Lenny, Lenny's reaction seems a bit severe and out of character for him.

I'm frustrated. It feels like I'm talking to a brick wall. You've never seen me this way because nobody has ever gotten on my nerves this much. It's like talking to someone who is devoid of logic, doesn't read my posts, and blindly accuses me. That's anti-town behavior and I'm not gonna let that slide unnoticed.

 

[Teal]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

##UNVOTE: Keeper of Night
##VOTE: Machamp The Champion

Let's look at this post:

By reading all this, I'm sure that Machamp is kind of right. If he's an independient, he can cause a lot of trouble in the late game, yet if he's not.
I'm kind of concerned about that "I would definitely not lynch myself" phrase from Drac in page #"I don't remember", but anyway... I guess I'm going to be the decisive vote here so... ##vote GM Draclord

There were 60 posts between this post and MTC's lastest post. It was this:

I've never had to deal with 'bad' Independents - do they deserve more priority than scum, or is it just that it's a decent lead to go on for so early in the game?

In this case, it's not really important which one we're prioritizing, since we know for a fact that he's an Independent, and we don't know for sure who any of the wolves are.

The way xDoggerx randomly mentioned MTC for no apparent reason at all makes me feel like both of them are wolves. Of all people, Dogger decided to buddy MTC's thoughts. It looks like a newbie wolf to me who decided to go with what his teammate said. I mean: xDoggerx is, without a doubt, a newbie. I don't see any reason why (even a newbie) townie would have said that of all things. There seems to be a link.

This combined with the fact that MTC tunnels an experienced player for a lynch on day 1&2 with no good reason expect that "I seems suspicious and nobody else does" makes him and Dogger the best lead for now.

I'm frustrated. It feels like I'm talking to a brick wall. You've never seen me this way because nobody has ever gotten on my nerves this much. It's like talking to someone who is devoid of logic, doesn't read my posts, and blindly accuses me. That's anti-town behavior and I'm not gonna let that slide unnoticed.

Welcome to my world.