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simsands said:
Also, if GM had said the name of the inactive person he was talking about, I would be ready to consider that person town. I believe that he would give us the name of an innocent inactive who wouldn't be able to deny it, to make that person look scummy the next day.
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Pure WIFOM. He could have easily named a lurking scumbuddy knowing that they would get inno cred and/or even show up to "claim" before hammer to save Drac and see how long they could play that. You can never trust anything a mafian says. Any "information" you get from them is suspect and almost useless.

If Drac actually had been a mason, he would have been more forthcoming and less "give me one more day guys!" in his previous defense post so your "what if" question is patently useless.
 
simsands said:
Considering that, according to Drac, that person was inactive and probably not around during the lynch?
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I would only consider that. I don't mean that it's 100% making him scum.
Anyway, it's not really relevant now.

I really wonder why double o squirtle won't comment on the votes on him.
 
Getting awfully aggressive there. What we see is you not keeping a vote on somebody seen to be scum and actually trying to keep him alive. And now that we have another good lead, you vote somebody else with little reasoning.
Which is why I chose to vote Vom over PMJ. Any other questions?
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No new questions, no. Same question though:
Why do Vom and PMJ seem so scummy to you? Voting one over the other means little. You're using arguments others have posted for PMJ being town as your argument for keeping suspicion on him? But you vote Vom anyway because...?
 
Athena said:
Pure WIFOM. He could have easily named a lurking scumbuddy knowing that they would get inno cred and/or even show up to "claim" before hammer to save Drac and see how long they could play that. You can never trust anything a mafian says. Any "information" you get from them is suspect and almost useless.

If Drac actually had been a mason, he would have been more forthcoming and less "give me one more day guys!" in his previous defense post so your "what if" question is patently useless.
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Knowing that I've multiple times said that I was planning on lynching him no matter what he/they claimed, in what way would we not win from this? The person who tried to save Drac would already be about to get lynched, by now. How is this not good?
 
Keeper of Night said:
Getting awfully aggressive there. What we see is you not keeping a vote on somebody seen to be scum and actually trying to keep him alive. And now that we have another good lead, you vote somebody else with little reasoning.

No new questions, no. Same question though:
Why do Vom and PMJ seem so scummy to you? Voting one over the other means little. You're using arguments others have posted for PMJ being town as your argument for keeping suspicion on him? But you vote Vom anyway because...?
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They are different players. I know that two players are doing something that I consider scummy. I know that one of them has been acting the same way as town. This does not automatically make the other person town, as well.
 
simsands said:
Knowing that I've multiple times said that I was planning on lynching him no matter what he/they claimed, in what way would we not win from this? The person who tried to save Drac would already be about to get lynched, by now. How is this not good?
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The only information we would gain would be worthless and we would waste everyone's time. That is in no way a "win".
 
simsands said:
They are different players. I know that two players are doing something that I consider scummy. I know that one of them has been acting the same way as town. This does not automatically make the other person town, as well.
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Why do Vom and PMJ seem so scummy to you?
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I can't tell if you really did just make up some excuse for your vote and really have no reason, or are purposely avoiding the question for another reason.
 
Athena said:
The only information we would gain would be worthless and we would waste everyone's time. That is in no way a "win".
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Please explain. I do not understand how this is not a win.

Keeper of Night said:
I can't tell if you really did just make up some excuse for your vote and really have no reason, or are purposely avoiding the question for another reason.
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I did not realize you wanted me to say it again. Besides GM, we knew very little yesterday, and needed more info. Me, and some others thought waiting with placing the vote on GM, to see if we could get some extra info was a good idea. I was trying to pressure GM into revealing his scum buddy. Those two were arguing against not immediately lynching him.
 
simsands said:
Please explain. I do not understand how this is not a win.



I did not realize you wanted me to say it again. Besides GM, we knew very little yesterday, and needed more info. Me, and some others thought waiting with placing the vote on GM, to see if we could get some extra info was a good idea. I was trying to pressure GM into revealing his scum buddy. Those two were arguing against not immediately lynching him.
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PMJ said:
##unvote bbninjas
##vote GM DracLord

Here is the day one slip guys, the longer you wait the longer he gets to come up with some stupid excuse that you all will inevitably believe

No one is going to come to his defense because it is obviously a scum chat. Claiming neighbor doesn't mean anything because it wouldn't clear drac as town and no one wants to be linked to him that hard once he flips scum.
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