Mr.Muffin said:I think I have my vote finally decided.
##VOTE:CELEVER
1) Camo likes to give people shovels(flimsy claims of them being scum), and let them dig their graves. You saw KoN digging his own grave, and you bought your own shovel and decided to follow in his footsteps.
2)You were buddying with someone who is in the grey area currently. This brought you and KON way higher on people's list of threats. I like BB outside of the game, but I can't put trust in him if I don't know his allegiance.
3)You seem to know how these games work, but yet you are making huge, huge blunder. ;L
BigfootAUS said:Oh boy, it's a good thing there's not a faction in this game that focuses on removing your bending powers. Or maybe the evil factions will just let you talk freely from the grave so you can cause more distractions during town discussions. Heck, having a Day 1-level of productivity throughout the whole game would be great for the bad guys.
I believe your role, but I think you shouldn't have revealed it.
##UNVOTE: Celever
I'm going to uni for the day, I'll check back later.
The first time Camo acknowledges AtA, dismissing him because they share a point of view, and thats fine. What's not fine is that I have done the same with Celever and it is apparently "buddying" and "a scum-tell" (him buddying with me does not mean I am doing the same with him).Camoclone said:AtA is fine for now.
This is a bandwagon vote that was missed. BF, explanation or thoughts?BigfootAUS said:##UNVOTE: Celever
##VOTE: AlexanderTheAwesome
Brave Vesperia said:Yay RVS.
##VOTE: Celever
Alright you two, I want more from you.Lenny said:*breathes in deeply*
Ahhhh, the sweet smell of RVS in the morning
Didn't read my posts.Camoclone said:tl;dr: KoN has no idea why he voted AtA and is scrambling for excuses.
This is basically where my case against Camo begins. This is not a town response. This is a confession that he is not willing to contribute.Camoclone said:Keeper of Night said:@Camo; Celever and AtA have both addressed my questions, why do you insist on ignoring the ones I have for you?
Because they are bad questions and I don't feel like taking time to answer them. Vote for me. I might feel scared into answering them then.
I didn't want to believe you're scum, no. I didn't want to eliminate an active player either. Both of these points have been brought up already, but you obviously don't care to read.Camoclone said:tl;dr: Keeper doesn't really believe I'm scum. He won't use towns greatest power to try to kill me off. Therefore either he doesn't really believe I'm scum or he is scum.
Again, a confession of anti-town behavior.Camoclone said:Keeper of Night said:You also are tunneling at this point Camo, so please go read my posts before trying your case again.
Yes I am tunneling.
I'm going to assume for the moment that you are telling the truth. In that case:Celever said:Celever - Uncle Iroh - Firebender - Town
You were an extremely wise firebender, who appreciated balance both in nature and in the bending arts. You helped guide your nephew, Zuko, away from his path of destruction and revenge after his banishment from the Fire Nation towards one of peace. When you died, your spirit moved to the spirit world, where you resided until Harmonic Divergence made you manifest in Republic City. As a high ranking member of the White Lotus, you are deeply disturbed by the sudden appearance of the Red Lotus, and their reckless ambitions that would throw the world wildly out of balance.
Bending Ability - Spirituality
This ability is passive and is in effect for the duration of the game. Due to your strong connections to the spirit world, you are able to live on as a spirit after your death. If you die, you will only lose your ability to vote (you may still post in the thread) and your role PM will not be posted in the update.
Win Condition - Eliminate all threats to the town.
Camoclone said:The buddying between you two is crazy. Once KoN flips scum your next Celever.
These posts, and the rest similar that Camo made, are irrelevant. Now, I agree with Bigfoot that your reveal was probably not the best idea, but it does save us from needlessly lynching a town today. It also means that Camo is proven to be going after a town. That, coupled with his behavior, is enough for me.Camoclone said:Two scumbuddies decided to serve themselves as a lynch. There is literally no reason to note vote Celever or Keeper now.
If you know you're town, wasting your vote isn't helping anybody.Celever said:##UNVOTE: Camoclone
##VOTE: Celever
Mr.Muffin said:>Implying that because Celever is clear-ish you are now clear.
It isn't that easy. You have still don't a lot of sketchy stuff.
Squirtle Squad said:Umm guys just saying, seeings as there is a faction that can remove bending powers wouldn't be more logical to lynch Celever to get the most out of his ability.
Now suppose Celever is lying, and that iroh is his safe claim. It is an unproveable claim.
This isn't me trying to attack a supposed townie I'm just saying we shouldn't necessarily trust him and his claim. I don't see no reason why we shouldn't lynch him. The town doesn't lose anything from his lynch is what I'm trying to say...
Squirtle Squad said:This isn't me trying to attack a supposed townie I'm just saying we shouldn't necessarily trust him and his claim. I don't see no reason why we shouldn't lynch him. The town doesn't lose anything from his lynch is what I'm trying to say...
Camoclone said:Keeper of Night said:@Camo; Celever and AtA have both addressed my questions, why do you insist on ignoring the ones I have for you?
Because they are bad questions and I don't feel like taking time to answer them. Vote for me. I might feel scared into answering them then.
How is Celever a confo-townie? And how does that make you town? I could easily see Celever buddying with an anti-townie as a townie.Keeper of Night said:I'm not going to re-address any posts I already responded to, but there are a few I skimmed before I want to bring up.
The first time Camo acknowledges AtA, dismissing him because they share a point of view, and thats fine. What's not fine is that I have done the same with Celever and it is apparently "buddying" and "a scum-tell" (him buddying with me does not mean I am doing the same with him).Camoclone said:AtA is fine for now.
This is a bandwagon vote that was missed. BF, explanation or thoughts?BigfootAUS said:##UNVOTE: Celever
##VOTE: AlexanderTheAwesome
Brave Vesperia said:Yay RVS.
##VOTE: CeleverAlright you two, I want more from you.Lenny said:*breathes in deeply*
Ahhhh, the sweet smell of RVS in the morning
Didn't read my posts.Camoclone said:tl;dr: KoN has no idea why he voted AtA and is scrambling for excuses.
This is basically where my case against Camo begins. This is not a town response. This is a confession that he is not willing to contribute.Camoclone said:Because they are bad questions and I don't feel like taking time to answer them. Vote for me. I might feel scared into answering them then.
I didn't want to believe you're scum, no. I didn't want to eliminate an active player either. Both of these points have been brought up already, but you obviously don't care to read.Camoclone said:tl;dr: Keeper doesn't really believe I'm scum. He won't use towns greatest power to try to kill me off. Therefore either he doesn't really believe I'm scum or he is scum.
Now, however, we have information, and I am more confident in my vote.
Again, a confession of anti-town behavior.Camoclone said:Yes I am tunneling.
I'm going to assume for the moment that you are telling the truth. In that case:Celever said:Celever - Uncle Iroh - Firebender - Town
You were an extremely wise firebender, who appreciated balance both in nature and in the bending arts. You helped guide your nephew, Zuko, away from his path of destruction and revenge after his banishment from the Fire Nation towards one of peace. When you died, your spirit moved to the spirit world, where you resided until Harmonic Divergence made you manifest in Republic City. As a high ranking member of the White Lotus, you are deeply disturbed by the sudden appearance of the Red Lotus, and their reckless ambitions that would throw the world wildly out of balance.
Bending Ability - Spirituality
This ability is passive and is in effect for the duration of the game. Due to your strong connections to the spirit world, you are able to live on as a spirit after your death. If you die, you will only lose your ability to vote (you may still post in the thread) and your role PM will not be posted in the update.
Win Condition - Eliminate all threats to the town.
Camoclone said:The buddying between you two is crazy. Once KoN flips scum your next Celever.These posts, and the rest similar that Camo made, are irrelevant. Now, I agree with Bigfoot that your reveal was probably not the best idea, but it does save us from needlessly lynching a town today. It also means that Camo is proven to be going after a town. That, coupled with his behavior, is enough for me.Camoclone said:Two scumbuddies decided to serve themselves as a lynch. There is literally no reason to note vote Celever or Keeper now.
##UNVOTE: AlexanderTheAwesome
##VOTE: Camoclone
If you know you're town, wasting your vote isn't helping anybody.Celever said:##UNVOTE: Camoclone
##VOTE: Celever
Keeper of Night said:Squirtle Squad said:This isn't me trying to attack a supposed townie I'm just saying we shouldn't necessarily trust him and his claim. I don't see no reason why we shouldn't lynch him. The town doesn't lose anything from his lynch is what I'm trying to say...
If anything, the opposite is true. We can't prove his claim, and it's only D1. There is no reason we should lynch him. Once we get further along, we can come back to it, but any information we have is good information.