Finished Werewolf XXVII: Revelation

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Squirtle Squad said:
Im definitely leaning more towards an inactive lynch for this first lynch. All those who are up as suspects are all actives. The more they talk the more chance they have of slipping up if they are scum.
This is Day 1. Lets kill an inactive (probably gonna get modkilled anyway down the line). Then for our second lynch we will have more information to work with.

In terms of who we kill, yeah Cinesra would be alright, Id be more leaning towards Cookies cos he hasn't said a word and is also new...


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An inactive lynch makes sense to me. But why wouldja kill a newbie that's mean :eek:

Celever said:
Because people will try to draw leads that aren't there if we lynch Josh and a Cinesra lynch will never stick. This is why we should lynch Cinesra first. Camo only wants to lynch Josh because he offended him, which isn't indicative of alignment, but you guys shouldn't eat it up.
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This makes sense. At first I was confused, but I realised soon enough that hitting some of the lurkers who are actually playing the game would just make the day drag on and on, and if we spend enough time, the Timer will continue to rise... and rise... and rise... and rise... and rise... and rise... and you get the idea.

##VOTE Cinesra

bbninjas said:
I doubt Camo would go around holding grudges like that - he's generally knows when he has made a mistake.
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You probably skimread the posts, didn't you? They exchanged, like, a truckload of anger yesterday! That fight was huge. I would be holding a grudge if I was in Camo's place.
 
Personally, I don't care about Camo's pleas on Josh. We get two lynches today; that means we can lynch both Josh and bbninjas. To suddenly change the votes is pointless. Whether we kill one or the other first, it's the same. And I highly doubt that Camo has any role-based suspicions (unless he has a role he can use during the Day). He has almost certainly made some connections. However, I don't see these connections, and I won't change a vote just 'cos. Again, we can lynch both, so why bother? Unless I hear the reason behind lynching Josh first, my vote stays on bb. We can lynch Josh right after. Going for Josh suddenly when there are nearly half the required votes on bbninjas is just wasting time.
 
Im under the impression that BB and Camo may be lovers hence their connection and why Camo doesn't want to lynch BB just yet.
Its the only logical reason I see right now that would keep Camo from lynching Bb if he was sure Bb was scum.
I for one wouldn't mind keeping Camo around because he's reading Town to me.
Thoughts? Is it worth lynching Bb and losing Camo. (In terms of numbers, a one for one trade is great, but it is Camo)
 
Yeowie said:
You probably skimread the posts, didn't you? They exchanged, like, a truckload of anger yesterday! That fight was huge. I would be holding a grudge if I was in Camo's place.
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Um, what? I do skimread, but that wasn't a fight.


Chaos Jackal said:
Personally, I don't care about Camo's pleas on Josh. We get two lynches today; that means we can lynch both Josh and bbninjas. To suddenly change the votes is pointless. Whether we kill one or the other first, it's the same. And I highly doubt that Camo has any role-based suspicions (unless he has a role he can use during the Day). He has almost certainly made some connections. However, I don't see these connections, and I won't change a vote just 'cos. Again, we can lynch both, so why bother? Unless I hear the reason behind lynching Josh first, my vote stays on bb. We can lynch Josh right after. Going for Josh suddenly when there are nearly half the required votes on bbninjas is just wasting time.
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Mind explaining exactly why your vote is not a bandwagon, since you are now fairly convinced I'm a better lynch?
 
Squirtle Squad said:
Im under the impression that BB and Camo may be lovers hence their connection and why Camo doesn't want to lynch BB just yet.
Its the only logical reason I see right now that would keep Camo from lynching Bb if he was sure Bb was scum.
I for one wouldn't mind keeping Camo around because he's reading Town to me.
Thoughts? Is it worth lynching Bb and losing Camo. (In terms of numbers, a one for one trade is great, but it is Camo)
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I'm sure I'm always the end of a million ridiculous theories. Take that one of TT's from Luis' game for an example. Although I'd totally go with that logic if it means I don't die Day 1.
 
And you said it yourself Bb, of the main suspects you yourself were of the opinion that none of them were really scum besides yourself
 
bbninjas said:
I'm sure I'm always the end of a million ridiculous theories. Take that one of TT's from Luis' game for an example. Although I'd totally go with that logic if it means I don't die Day 1.
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Was that the one where TT thought you and Celever were kind of like lovers??? Father Son thing?? Trying to remember
 
Squirtle Squad said:
You didn't, but you explained that of the suspects none of them stuck out of scum, you didn't say anything about yourself! (So it was by not saying anything that you in fact did say something)
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I've already said what I thought about my lynch. Also, I constantly choose not to go around saying I'm town don't lynch me cause duh, I obv won't ever want to be lynched, and saying I'm town means nothing.
 
bbninjas said:
Mind explaining exactly why your vote is not a bandwagon, since you are now fairly convinced I'm a better lynch?
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There's absolutely no explanation when you're talking to the defendant... besides, every vote in WW that isn't backed up by a confirmed seer can be called out as a bandwagon. Why do I think you're a better lynch? I never thought JoshB was that great of a lynch in the first place if you recall... he was beneath Luctini for me at the time, and he is beneath you now. I don't like the reasons behind your lynch very much, but it's a D1 lynch and it's nearly as good as it can get... a possibly misplaced, possibly wrong, but still existent theory. JoshB is suspicious to me, yes, but his overly aggressive behavior isn't exactly screaming scum... I've seen that kind of aggression before in new players, here and elsewhere, and nothing guarantees that they are scum. With the game's mechanics, and two lynches ahead of us, it is important that we waste as little time as possible. And it's D1, when almost always nothing comes out. Every game we exhaust the week given to us. Many times D1 finishes without a majority vote. But in this case we need the majority vote. We need a majority vote, in D1, twice. Changing a vote mid-lynch doesn't help the case.
 
I made the same connection @Squirtle Squad, but I didn't say it because it now means that if bb and Camo are both town the mafia get a 2-for-1 nightkill tonight. Glad to see I actually successfully hinted at something though :p.

@Chaos Jackal what do you think to a Cinesra lynch?

@bbninjas imma be honest I have no clue what point you were trying to make in the last few posts. Mind a recap?
 
Haha @Celever it was actually your post that put the idea in my head!

@Chaos Jackal I don't think Bb is that high in votes anymore so a vote change wouldn't be that time wasting

Yeowie said:
I am starting to feel that one of the players who is here at present is the indie, but I'm having trouble tracking down who it might be. That's just gut instinct... But I'm sort of looking at Luctini. OMGUS? Really? I'm pretty sure Luctini is not a newbie, am I right?
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Ive been reading back and noticed a couple of things... First of all!
All that time we spent discussing who the Indie was... A common scum tell is to bring the attention onto a third faction to A) Still sound useful and Town-like and B) to keep the attention off the mafia...
I know everyone was talking about the indie at the start, but I'm looking at yeowie post (in particular) and this could be a very common example of this.

Also of note from my reading back is that Luctini and JoshB buddied for a little bit there against CJ... Could both be scum but its only a minor tell.

As for Bb, yeah i find him the most scummy at the moment but I'm hesistant about his lynch if he is connected to Camo
 
Also with regards to Yeowies post... When he made that comment it was kind of out of the blue... Indie discussion had died down a little bit and his opening sentence was just so random...
 
Chaos Jackal: 0 (Luctini27 bbninjas, Yeowie)
Camoclone: 0 (Celever Ice Espeon Ice Espeon Ice Espeon Ice Espeon Ice Espeon)
Celever: 0 (Luispipe8 Luctini27)
Luispipe8: 0 (Squirtle Squad)
Luctini27: 0 (Celever JoshB Celever Camoclone Chaos Jackal)
JoshB: 2 (Camoclone Celever Yeowie Luctini27 TwistedTurtwig Camoclone Camoclone, Mr.Muffin, Squirtle Squad)
Yeowie: 1 (Luctini27 TwistedTurtwig, Camoclone Luispipe8, JoshB Luctini27)
scattered mind: 0 (bbninjas)
bbninjas: 3 (Celever, Squirtle Squad, Yeowie, Lucitini27, scattered mind, Chaos Jackal)
Jeremy1026: 0 (scattered mind)
Cinesra: 3 (Celever, Squirtle Squad, Yeowie)

I think that's right. So... the strange things.
- Yeowie has jumped on Josh's, mine and Cinesra's lynch.
- Squirtle Squad has jumped on the same people.
- Luctini has jumped on Josh's and my lynch.
- Celever has pushed 4 different lynchs today .___.
- I highly doubt Yeowie and Josh know each other through a game role (mafia, mason, etc) due to how they wanted to lynch each other

I've picked three people I'd like to lynch: SS, Josh and Cinesra. SS is posting a lot of contradictive/confusing stuff, but he looks like he's trying to contribute, so I won't bother voting for him. I just want information from a Josh flip, while Cinesra was my original go-to lynch. I also wouldn't mind a Yeowie lynch either, as I see there is merit on it, and he's been quite bandwagony himself.

Also, I've noticed steffenka doing quite a bit lurking.

@Chaos Jackal; fair enough, that makes complete sense.
 
Celever said:
@bbninjas imma be honest I have no clue what point you were trying to make in the last few posts. Mind a recap?
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I wasn't trying to make any particular point, I was more responding to what SS is accusing (?) me of.

Also... PEOPLE BE MORE ACTIVE!! We're fairly active for PB standard as it is... but we're not going to get to that majority if only 7 people are active enough to vote!
 
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