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That's because there are no other good alternatives besides Cinesra, and even though you seem so intent on this not being true, you haven't explained it. I've asked you to build a proper case on your scum reads and you still haven't. I don't understand what you think we are, mind readers?
I'd rather lynch you his scum buddy. Then Josh later.
 
Why don't we lynch him now then!? We don't need to wait for a proper scum slip that could never actually happen, which will then make him cleared town to you cause you've been waiting for one.
Because I town read him. The point just stands that if he is mafia we will get a better (read: actual) case and more info from him later on into the game.

I think you're thinking too hard Celever. First, it was the lover's theory. Next, it is that we are scum. Either contradictions or something else.
The lover thing is if you are town. The mafia buddies is if you are mafia. They both are legit theories, but you're right, they contradict each other. We don't KNOW whch allegiance you are, though. I do have to point out that Camo never tried to comment on the whole lover thing, besides saying "thanks for that" which doesn't prove anything either way.
Since when? And you can't active lurk by making a single post, you know...
I don't really understand what you mean here.
You haven't built much of a case on Cinesra so I don't think you can talk...
I've build a huge case on Cinesra ;;.
Oh yeah. That mayor chick can definitely be evil.
She really can't, LMAO.

To everyone: Read the flavour in the day and night updates. It cleans me.
 
Ok. Lets do it this way. Explain how every one of those "hypocritical" things apply to me.
Oh, let's see.
  1. Lynching an inactive gives us no information to look back at. When a player is lynched a good town player will go back and analyze their posts and how people respond. They will analyze everything again. Celever wants us to lynch an inactive first meaning we will have almost no new information to talk about before it becomes night.
  2. Celever is focused on lynching a random player who is always inactive. He doesn't believe he is scum. He is focused on lynching him because he is inactive (and likely will be).
  3. Celever wants to shift all discussion to this random player.
  4. Celever is bragging about knowing a player was town (not confirmed). This is scummy because scum knows who the town players are. They will often times not pursue a wagon on a town player.
  5. Celever has a built in safeproof by saying Cinesra didn't matter. He doesn't contribute so why keep him? Well we should try to keep all town players alive. Imagine if Cinesra has a PR. There are plenty of active players that don't contribute but just bandwagon.
  6. Celever is acting like everyone agrees with him.
  7. Celever is refusing to acknowledge that there are good leads right now. There are. If a skilled player looks back they will find tons of them.

  1. Admittedly, this one is legit...
  2. This part: "He doesn't believe he is scum." Well, that's not hypocritical, but it's incorrect. Celever had never said that he didn't believe Cinesra was scum.
  3. What?! Hah, you wanted to shift all the discussion to JoshB, originally. *snorts again*
  4. Scummy. Riiiiight. He said he strongly tr'd people. Different matter.
  5. "by saying Cinesra didn't matter." Okay, look at this, you didn't care about JoshB, whether or not our arguments were legit.
  6. Well... Cinesra has, like, five votes at least I think so that's pretty strong agreement. But you think JoshB is a wonderful target... And barely anyone agrees.
  7. As Celever just said:
    The thing is, is that if Cinesra flips scum we basically get two more guaranteed mafia (Camo and bb). If he flips town we don't get a huge amount of info, but it will save us almost certainly lynching him in future days due to lack of contribution. Muffin, who would be your number 1 lynch right now? No one agrees on this, so the propsect of hitting 3 mafia is major, and we don't lose out on much if he flips town. It just makes too much sense!

    And it's not a random target. My two biggest scum reads are linked to him now (Camo and bb) and he was the active lurker which made the most sense, as I explained before.
    You think that's not a good enough lead?!
So... Some of those were not exactly hypocritical, although the last ones defs were.

But then you said this:
Long posts =/= contributing if they are completely false and follow bad logic.
HYPOCRITE!!
And heck, sometimes you don't even have logic, you just say lol like there's no tomorrow. And you call that contributing. And by 'lol-ing' everything you act superior and try to show everyone else as stupid. All I see here is your continuing to be an arrogant, desperate scum.
 
Celever, let's turn the spectrum and say you are bussing Cinesra! Turbo lynch Celever gogogo!
 
##UNVOTE: Celever ##VOTE: Yeowie
You don't even know what you're talking about.
 
  • What?! Hah, you wanted to shift all the discussion to JoshB, originally. *snorts again*
The difference is that this is an inactive and bad D1 lynch.
  • "by saying Cinesra didn't matter." Okay, look at this, you didn't care about JoshB, whether or not our arguments were legit.
They aren't.
  • Well... Cinesra has, like, five votes at least I think so that's pretty strong agreement. But you think JoshB is a wonderful target... And barely anyone agrees.
This is just straight up wrong.
And heck, sometimes you don't even have logic, you just say lol like there's no tomorrow. And you call that contributing. And by 'lol-ing' everything you act superior and try to show everyone else as stupid. All I see here is your continuing to be an arrogant, desperate scum.
Just because you don't understand or are unable to follow doesn't mean the logic is bad.
 
Celever, let's turn the spectrum and say you are bussing Cinesra! Turbo lynch Celever gogogo!
There's a difference between actively pushing someone's lynch and bussing them (though admittedly sometimes the two can intertwine, I really would not benefit from lynching a scum buddy at this point if I was mafia). Your's was a fleeting comment and there was no momentum or pushing behind it, so that is indeed a buss.

If you scum read bb or Camo, LYNCH CINESRA. We could potentially get an amazing lead Day 1 from it, and you can already see that bb is starting to panic.
 
If you scum read bb or Camo, LYNCH CINESRA. We could potentially get an amazing lead Day 1 from it, and you can already see that bb is starting to panic.
lololol. What about Muffin? He thinks the case on Cinesra is crap too. SCUM BUDDIES OMG TURBO MUFFIN!!!!!! THE CATTTT!!
 
There's a difference between actively pushing someone's lynch and bussing them (though admittedly sometimes the two can intertwine, I really would not benefit from lynching a scum buddy at this point if I was mafia). Your's was a fleeting comment and there was no momentum or pushing behind it, so that is indeed a buss.

If you scum read bb or Camo, LYNCH CINESRA. We could potentially get an amazing lead Day 1 from it, and you can already see that bb is starting to panic.
Of course it was a comment! I said I will lynch him if we got no other leads! I certainly did not start trying to lynch him because the date had not yet come!

##unvote: Yeowie ##vote: Celever wtv
 
And the fact that Camo is now trying to push a lynch on Antonia Kara, my full name which IIRC wasn't mentioned in the flavour yet (but is my name in my Role PM) shows the panic setting into him now too.

While Camo is having a mental breakdown about getting found out, can we just lynch his scumteam now?
lololol. What about Muffin? He thinks the case on Cinesra is crap too. SCUM BUDDIES OMG TURBO MUFFIN!!!!!! THE CATTTT!!
Muffin made a compromise and had second doubts. He didn't immediately say "nope lynch bad nononono" the second I mentioned it.
 
And the fact that Camo is now trying to push a lynch on Antonia Kara, my full name which IIRC wasn't mentioned in the flavour yet (but is my name in my Role PM) shows the panic setting into him now too.
Thats exactly what I'm doing. That name means so much to me.

Muffin made a compromise and had second doubts. He didn't immediately say "nope lynch bad nononono" the second I mentioned it.
Because he actually thought about it.
 
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