First you go and vote to lynch Morda, then once we found out he was silenced you wanted to have them live, and now once we question our motives you go on to say he's completely useless and should be lynched...okay then...
Huh?
Righteo; I'll just have to watch you.
I'm pretty sure noone has been harvesting your seeds of suspicion in regards to Camo/Celever/bb/PMJ scum bc they're still alive, which is what I'm referring to.
Inactivity is different to active lurking. I look forward to you trying to contribute more instead of making 50% uncontributive posts.[
I dont think you did question me, actually, but instead that was simsands questioning you.
i.e. Camo/bb/Celever/PMJ scummy bc not dead yet
You actually made three, and I think two were in the same day.
I'm not sure why you're mentioning this.
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waste of time
This is a role fish.
After all this, Celever votes SM out of nowhere. Within 2 posts, guess who votes SM?Yes, you're wrong here. @mordacazir sees everyone that targeted GM Drac, and the only player targeting them was you. GM Drac died that night from a nightkill. Therefore, Occam's Razor dictates that you killed him.
Fine, maybe the scumteam doesn't have a kill once their "leader" dies (which would make them unbelievably underpowered) and the right to that kill instead goes to an indie who also happens to have a ninja role, which would be mostly useless given the fact that the tracker/watcher is one role on only one player. Maybe. But that's outlandish and at this stage we have no reason to believe any of that. This is why it's important to remember Occam's Razor in werewolf. Yes, look at all sides of an argument, but don't start thinking that the craziest things like this are true, because that case has far more assumptions and a lot of baseless speculation than simply "mord shows you kill him".
This is true. It took you an hour to c/p your role and type up a couple of small paragraphs underneath it. Why?
@Reinforce I've basically claimed my identity earlier on in the thread, but nice to know I was vague enough to not make it obvious I guess.
I like your choice of target last night, though.
Basically, I think we should leave RF. Someone mentioned a theory about him maybe being Grima and needing the Grimleal dead; this would be pretty smart, but I think the night RF killed GM Drac was the Valmese's kill. The three Valmese roles are almost certainly Walhart (confirmed), Cervantes and Excellus. The latter makes a lot of sense as RF's role -- both being lynchproof and being a role name seer. Excellus plays dirty and has connections, so it makes sense to me that Excellus could blackmail his way out of a lynch, and then he could also find stuff out about people with his connections and blackmail.
However, while RF is scum, we should leave him. If he's lynchproof (until Cervantes also dies; permanently lynchproof is a broken role no matter what faction) then the Grimleal are going to nightkill him themselves because they have no choice but to. If he's town, the Grimleal aren't gonna want him seering one of their players. The nightkills in this game have been very random and frankly sub-optimal, but if they don't shoot a lynchproof player with strong investigative abilities they're honestly not even taking this game seriously.
Basically, there's nothing we can achieve by voting for this scum again, which honestly makes me feel quite powerless and I'm not a fan of this role for that reason. Optimally, Cervantes will die today, so we can lynch RF tomorrow.
##VOTE: scattered mind for being scum.
Quaking votes SM.
This is in response to bb saying "inb4 scattered is at L-2" as a joke, which turned into a role fish.Yeah, he should give a claim fast. I'm still thinking of possible safe claims for scum!
after reading PMJ's post, he unvotes SM because of a "point". Here was the post:
PMJ said:
Calling for a Massclaim doesn't really work at this stage in the game, due to the amount of people we have left in the game.
This reads like a Role Fish to me.
Calling for a Massclaim doesn't really work at this stage in the game, due to the amount of people we have left in the game.
Here, he says that Scattered is Town after trying to lynch him [even though Celever gave reasoning that in no way connected to SM and it took one sentence from PMJ to change his mind]. Nothing else here is worth noting that much.@bbninjas- I'm seeing bb as a townie right now because of the lie detector ability, but I could also see an unlikely scenario were bb and Reinforce are scum, and
Reinforce actually seered simsands N0 instead of bb
@scattered mind-Despite not posting often, SM comes off as town to me, as he is for discussion right now, instead of dodging questions
@Reinforce- See bbninjas read above, but replace lie detector with seer
@mordacazir- Soft town, due to the "Friends with Wyverns" results, heavily implying that he's Cherche
@quakingpunch73- Me!
What I'm confused about here is when simsands flipped, Walhart's wincon mentioned Plegia. Well sure, it makes more sense for it to be Grimleal Plegia, there's still the probability that it's an Ylisse/Gangrel Plegia/Valm war. how can you sound so sure?
Then we get these. In quick succession, he unvotes Morda, says he has a plan that requires morda alive, and then says he's willing to lynch morda after people question him.
Lastly, he says that he could find scum using Morda and would still be fine Lynching him. Or Celever, who was a really stupid lynch option. [I really only voted to humour camo and to question Celever a bit.]
Let's discuss why voting for the person who can't post is scummy right now.