If bbninjas, who is confirmed town, is confirming Reinforce's results, then Reinforce probably isn't lying. I know at least one time a game someone will get lynched over something the hosts did (or didn't do) so I would much rather put stock in the actual results over something in the flavor being slightly off.
Based on the fact that no one is asking for Camoclone's head, I'm going to assume that whoever he is is also town (unless it's a safe claim).
If it was just Camoclone's results then I would call this a scum play but bbninjas confirming gives Reinforce credit WHICH MEANS
##UNVOTE: Reinforce
##VOTE: Empoleon_master
Votes please <3
You're more than experienced enough to be able to poke all kinds of holes in this post. First of all, RF being a role name seer doesn't make him town. In fact, I think it actually makes it more likely he's scum, given his role has already appeared as a class skill on Robin, a town player. Number-wise, every faction in this game is underpowered besides the town, because 3 members on one faction means that a minimum of 18 other players must pass, since we've 21 players, before that faction can win. HP alleviates this slightly, but not enough for all of the scum members to have weak roles. With Robin there was a trade off: they can get information, but they can't attack. With RF I think this will be different, which is why things have been omitted from his role. I'm certain the hosts would have handed a safeclaim like that to Reinforce because it's really bad, but I think it's probable that RF made a gambit by cutting his role up and changing things. People don't like being thrown in at the deep end, and it casts doubt on them when they're faced with something new and different. RF is taking advantage of this.
bbninjas isn't confirmed town. He's confirmed to have found out that simsands is scum somehow, but don't forget that there are two scum factions. You definitely know that ability confirmed =/= affiliation confirmed unless it's something like the nightkill.
~~~~~~~ This part of the post is directed at other things I read while catching up on the thread now, not specifically PMJ ~~~~~~~
Whoever was talking about an amalgamation of attacks being the cause of death of Drac, I think this is relatively unlikely. simsands only told his faction who Robin was
yesterday, and it can be assumed that there are only two other members of his team. Additionally, Robin as a character doesn't take bonus damage from any type of weapon. Looking at what we already know and what I know about game balance, it looks as though iron weapons do 10 damage, steel weapons do 20 damage and silver weapons do 30. At
most the scumteam could have inflicted 60 damage on Robin, and Robin had 100 max HP. Actually, no, Robin had 100 HP at the time of his death. It's in his role flip: "
Current Health: 100/100". That says current, not starting.
An Indie ninja? That's quite an outlandish claim, ngl. In the OP it says scumteams alternate nightkills. Are you really suggesting that the ninja would have little power until one of the scum leaders dies? A lot of players would find that unfair. It's a possibility, but it just makes far less sense than the nightkill being passed down and that clause not being put in the role PM. Wouldn't be the first time that's happened on this site, even.
