What Can Be Done to Improve PokeBeach Forums?

glaceon said:
WAR results? Team Typhoon is not for war results. People can ask for advice or help (don't say people don't ask for help I've helped people with lists before, and I remember piplup234 helped me a ton before nats), and tell how they've done at events.

Discussion topics can be useful in seeing other people's opinion on certain decks or cards. When ZPST became a deck, I thought it was awful. I don't now.

Clans are not about "war", (this for TCG) but about getting advice from teammates and friends, discussing cards and ideas and helping other members.
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I agree, TCG clans dont war, but what about VG? I play for a competitive team in Mario Kart Wii, and we war and do stuff like that all the time. In the mario kart wii community, clans who do stuff like discussing stuff and not doing much wars is called a community clan, which is not a competitive clan btw.
 
There are only two teams. Team C and Team D.
Our last war with each other was MONTHS ago. Probably like 8 months ago.

It's not like that happens often.
I'd much rather see the two teams come together to build (or rebuild as some like to think of it) our VG community.
 
I'd just like to say something here.

I am working on a dictionary for the TCG. Not a little review of everything, but a dictionary. You know, like Webster's Dictionary, except with less stuff. This is the chance for all of the TCG members and non-TCG members to shine. I'm asking that each active member on the forums PMs me five (or more) entries that are TCG-related. Think about how many entries we could have if everybody suggested 5 entries. That would be a lot of entries. Rogue members, define "rogue" for me, and for competitive TCG players, look up some cards that deserve a small review on. Vulpix Yolk's Donphan article is perfect to add if we can summarize it all. Non TCG players, you can look up the simplest of terms like "mulligan" and "dead draw", or get some abbreviations like ZPST and DD. This is a project where S-Mods, Mods, and members can work together, and this is how Pokebeach can be further improved.

That's all I have to say. I beg all of the active Pokebeachers to PM me 5; that's right, just 5 entries for the dictionary. Everything comes together and bam! A dictionary.
 
Gliscor and I are working on a dictionary and almost done. It should be out soon.
 
Yoshidude10 said:
I'd just like to say something here.

I am working on a dictionary for the TCG. Not a little review of everything, but a dictionary. You know, like Webster's Dictionary, except with less stuff. This is the chance for all of the TCG members and non-TCG members to shine. I'm asking that each active member on the forums PMs me five (or more) entries that are TCG-related. Think about how many entries we could have if everybody suggested 5 entries. That would be a lot of entries. Rogue members, define "rogue" for me, and for competitive TCG players, look up some cards that deserve a small review on. Vulpix Yolk's Donphan article is perfect to add if we can summarize it all. Non TCG players, you can look up the simplest of terms like "mulligan" and "dead draw", or get some abbreviations like ZPST and DD. This is a project where S-Mods, Mods, and members can work together, and this is how Pokebeach can be further improved.

That's all I have to say. I beg all of the active Pokebeachers to PM me 5; that's right, just 5 entries for the dictionary. Everything comes together and bam! A dictionary.
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Gliscor said:
Lately, in order to improve the TCG Community, I've been working on a few "projects" to help increase activity, attract more players, and hopefully improve other players' skill. While out of sheer businesses, and due to the fact that I've been working on multiple projects at once, I don't have a lot of time to work on these projects, but with winter coming and the sports that I'm playing not being active for the winter, I can hopefully find more time. Anyways, onto the projects:

2. TCG Dictionary
-This is to help attract new players into the game, by allowing them to understand what the more experienced players are talking about. While this isn't the best way to get new players into the game (making a "Welcome to the Game" article would be the best), it's a solid start, and can definitely help new players get into the game if they can understand terms like "The Truth", "Baby Killer", or "Primetime". If this is able to help get new players into the game, then from here we need to get them more experienced. Battle videos are one way, but...
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Yoshidude, if you're only looking for five entries from some members, then that is nothing compared to how many that is in the dictionary I'm working on right now.
 
I suggest that you guys turn the dictionary into something like the "Community Dictionary" where we can all add terms and stuff for like a month then post it in as final after some final revisions.

ESP
Pokebeach is not a country. The system has proven to have been slowly failing beach. Back then we had more organized stuff even with Bela being a jerk. Right now, it's just more chaos and more drama.

SPM's interpretation of Gale's posts is spot-on as well. We don't need mods who are there just because they contributed a lot to the front page in terms of scans and translations or whatnot. We need mods who are accomplished or at least well-versed in their field and has a good structural system as to how to make his programs/activities work. It's one thing to be a good player and be nice. It's another to be able to organize events and make them successful.
 
Gliscor said:
Yoshidude, if you're only looking for five entries from some members, then that is nothing compared to how many that is in the dictionary I'm working on right now.
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Yeah that thing is pretty in-depth.

@RB: It really doesn't need any more imput. The TCG staff have been looking over that thing for awhile.
 
Riskbreakers said:
I just hope it doesn't end up like the EP Article though.
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That seems a little rude to me. Why would you even bring that up? Gliscor already acknowledged that he messed up by posting that without spending more time on it. However, this TCG Dictionary has been months (literally) in the making. I've seen it go from 10 very short definitions to around 100 well thought out entries with examples. I'm sure you'll be impressed when you see the final outcome.
 
ESP said:
That seems a little rude to me. Why would you even bring that up? Gliscor already acknowledged that he messed up by posting that without spending more time on it. However, this TCG Dictionary has been months (literally) in the making. I've seen it go from 10 very short definitions to around 100 well thought out entries with examples. I'm sure you'll be impressed when you see the final outcome.
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We laugh about that in chat. We're cool taking shots at it. Like how almost everyone has been taking shots at the Yanmega/Zoroark one.

The dictionary sounds well thought out. Sounds good to me.
 
What I'd like to see more from this site is intelligence. I remember back when I joined we still had the spelling and grammar ratings, and there was the group of people who had such horrible spelling they got their own special titles until they improved their grammar. I'm not asking for something that extreme, obviously. I would just like there to be more encouragement of intelligent discussion. What deterred me back in the day from writing TCG articles (something that I felt I was good at) was the feedback I got. Half the time I got "no this is wrong this is how you should really do it." Granted, my responses were rarely any kinder. The forum needs to lose its label as dramabeach and needs to encourage healthy, intelligent discussion. No flaming people for disagreeing with you. Many times I've seen people give genuinely good advice for a deck or a VGC team and the original poster is completely stubborn and won't even consider the changes recommended.

I am not entirely sure how you can do this, I just feel it needs to be done. There are a good number of people on this site that are rather immature, and we need to encourage maturity in all discussion on this site. Sadly, this is perhaps the only forum I've gone to where this has been a dominant problem. I'd also definitely like to see the mods less...what's the word for it? Holier-than-thou. I see people get mod status and then they act like they're above everybody else. Instead of helping to promote the intelligent discussion, they act like they're know-it-alls and that they're so much better than ordinary members. Again, this is an issue with maturity. And also again, not entirely sure how this can be encouraged or implemented. This is just my 2 cents.
 
^I remember there was this time when [member]bacon[/member] created debate threads in Misc Stuff every once in a while to facilitate some intelligent discussion.
 
I remember those debates too, I had mixed feelings about those. On the one hand, there was some intelligent discussion going on. But overall when I viewed one of those threads I could feel the tension from the opposing sides. A lot of people were getting in each others' faces with their view points and that's exactly what I am pointing out is hurting the forums. We don't need debates in every thread in the VGC and TCG sections of the forums, we need to help each other out in many of the threads. Granted, we need debates about certain things (such as bans in the VGC) but where someone is trying to get their decklist rated, we really don't need to cause an argument. Do you get what I'm saying?
 
Gale said:
Smods are online all the time. They're just invisible.
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I don't use invisibility. Never have, (most likely) never will. So if I'm ever online, I'm on the "Who's Online?" list. I'm not going to explain my lack of activity online (since this isn't the thread for it), but for anyone who ever has any questions about it feel free to send me a PM and I'll explain what's going on.

I haven't had a chance to read over the entire thread (I'll do so after work), but it seems like (from what I've read so far) a lot of issues are coming from the level of transparency between moderator actions and members. I can guarantee 90%+ of the moderators mentioned in this thread for "doing next to nothing" are working extremely hard behind the scenes. I know for some people this isn't acceptable. It's understandable that if you don't see who's working on what it's hard to feel confident about the activity of the people in charge of the forums. Unfortunately this issue may just boil down to personal preference - whether one likes more transparency or less. I think both have their positive and negative traits, without one being better than the other.

Anyway, after work I'll come back and read the thread to see if I can lend my opinion on a few other parts of the thread.
 
Hi Xous! Long time no see!

Anyway, the point of being transparent is actually good for the staff. We complain about those mods doing next to nothing because we don't get informed that they do something behind the scenes. It fosters a better link between members and staff and should lessen the "We are mods. we're better than you." mentality that mods show off in an implied manner due to the heavy secrecy.
 
Xous said:
I don't use invisibility. Never have, (most likely) never will. So if I'm ever online, I'm on the "Who's Online?" list. I'm not going to explain my lack of activity online (since this isn't the thread for it), but for anyone who ever has any questions about it feel free to send me a PM and I'll explain what's going on.

I haven't had a chance to read over the entire thread (I'll do so after work), but it seems like (from what I've read so far) a lot of issues are coming from the level of transparency between moderator actions and members. I can guarantee 90%+ of the moderators mentioned in this thread for "doing next to nothing" are working extremely hard behind the scenes. I know for some people this isn't acceptable. It's understandable that if you don't see who's working on what it's hard to feel confident about the activity of the people in charge of the forums. Unfortunately this issue may just boil down to personal preference - whether one likes more transparency or less. I think both have their positive and negative traits, without one being better than the other.

Anyway, after work I'll come back and read the thread to see if I can lend my opinion on a few other parts of the thread.
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First of all, hi, Xous. :eek:

Second of all, yeah, I mostly meant the mods that people don't usually see online are usually the ones who are invisible.

My problem with what you're saying is that even though these moderators may be doing so much "behind-the-scenes" stuff, I'm not seeing anything actually happening. No projects really happen that I can imagine would have anything to do with the moderators I have described. The Community Team is the only thing I can think of, and we all know how that turned out. Unless you guys just keep all your projects to yourself (which I've already voiced how much I disapprove of that personally), I don't see how any of the moderators I mentioned in my first post are really doing... much at all. No offense again. I just don't see any projects happening from the guys I mentioned (there aren't many projects going on in general really).

If someone that I mentioned wants to tell me what projects they're working on, go ahead. The walls of secrecy need to be torn down at some point.
 
I think we need the pokebeach group topic back. I mean that was a great topic and it gave me something to do other then the RMT all the time.
 
Add a Pokedollar system. They have something like that in Pokeboard, a site that I am also a memebr of. Also, allow the normal people a little power as well. It seems the Super Mods are in control of everything.
 
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