What Decks Will Win Cities/Cities Discussion

What deck will win the most Cities?


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Celebi23

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It's a little late to be starting this, but this thread can also be used as a discussion of the overall Cities metagame as that unfolds itself.

Instead of posting my opinions first, I'll let you guys start it off. Besides, you can find all of my opinions in my article about Cities.

So, what decks do you think will place well? What will the new meta be? What will win the most Cities? Be sure to vote in the poll above.
 
Yesterday the wins were

Juniors:
doesn't even count

Seniors:
Me w/ Eel Zone

Masters:
Dan Richard w/ Vanilluxe Plume(no mew)
 
Reshiphlosion definitely, although I hope to see rogue decks for when I go to my cities :) (I'm running a rogue variation of Mandibuzz)
 
Vanilluxe (without Mew, the extra HP is what makes it good and better than Mightyena LA in it's time.), Tyram, and Zekrom/Eelektrik/Tornadus are tied for first. The Eviolite deck could also be decent if played right.
 
Order of winning decks (imo)

1. TyRam: Obviously. No autolosses and very consistent

2. Elektrikk with Zekrom or Magnezone: Nice and consistent, also quite fast

3. Vanilluxe: Not the straight up VvV, but with roguish twists. I dont think Vanilla ice cream is that good straight up.

4. Other random rogues people haven't prepared for.

5. ZPST: Everyone wants to play Eviolite, and all that does is take away consistency. Zekrom is not the monster it once was, but it is still good.
 
HenryP said:
Yesterday the wins were

Juniors:
doesn't even count

Seniors:
Me w/ Eel Zone doesn't even count

Masters:
Dan Richard w/ Vanilluxe Plume(no mew)
Fixed it for you. :)

Not to take away from your win, but honestly 99% of people only look at Masters results.

alexmf2 said:
Order of winning decks (imo)

1. TyRam: Obviously. No autolosses and very consistent

2. Elektrikk with Zekrom or Magnezone: Nice and consistent, also quite fast

3. Vanilluxe: Not the straight up VvV, but with roguish twists. I don't think Vanilla ice cream is that good straight up.

4. Other random rogues people haven't prepared for.

5. ZPST: Everyone wants to play Eviolite, and all that does is take away consistency. Zekrom is not the monster it once was, but it is still good.
Eel with Lanturn has actually taken a surprising number of Cities, too. And I'd say Reshiram auto-loses to Truth and Gothitelle.
 
^It's the other way around with Reshiram and Goth. If Goth could beat it it'd be so much better. Probably right behind Vanilluxe.

@alexmf2: I disagree, Eviolite helps against Reshiram and Zekrom. But you are right that it was better before. Defender was an amazing mirror tech that not quite everyone played so I guess you actually got more out of it.
 
Mr. Tea, you couldn't be more wrong. As Celebi said, Reshiphlosion auto-loses to Goth. Reshi can't get it early so Goth has unlimited time to set up, and when it sets up, it takes 6 straight prizes as Reshi has no way to take a prize.
 
Mr. Tea said:
^It's the other way around with Reshiram and Goth. If Goth could beat it it'd be so much better. Probably right behind Vanilluxe.
As somebody who went 4-1 against Reshiram decks at Regionals with a Reuniclus-based deck, I'd love it if you would elaborate on just how Gothitelle can't beat Reshiram.....
 
As far as the most Cities goes, I would have to say Reshiphlosion due to it being one of the BDIFs, but it does still have it's bad match-ups, such as Gothitelle/Reuniclus, almost any Vileplume/Reuniclus varient and Samurott. (though not many people play that) But as far as a small amount of Cities (anywhere from 3-5) goes, I would have to say a Vileplume/Reuniclus varient or some sort of rougue deck that no-one is prepared for.
 
Celebi23 said:
As somebody who went 4-1 against Reshiram decks at Regionals with a Reuniclus-based deck, I'd love it if you would elaborate on just how Gothitelle can't beat Reshiram....

The Truth is different than Goth. That's like saying Vanilluxe is like The Truth because they have babies and Vileplume. Before I elaborate, were the Tyrams attacking with Typhlosion? Energy discarding cripples the deck. Otherwise you can't really win. That's why the truth is better, you can use early game Donphan, and it's no biggie if you have an energy lost to it, 60 won't help much there.
 
No, my opponents were not stupid lol. Of course they attacked with Typhlosion. I'd also never attack them with Donphan unless I prized an SEL part. Ever. Every energy I have is necessary against the deck.

There's absolutely no need to put early-game pressure on them. Just load 7+ energy on a benched Gothitelle, while walling with an energy-less active. Swap KO the active, then sweep.

That matchup plays pretty much exactly the same whether you're playing Gothitelle or Vileplume; both decks use the exact same strategy against it. Pile as many energy as you can onto a benched attacker capable of OHKOing their deck while walling with a high-HP active. Then, promote the benched thing and sweep. Both decks successfully execute this strategy 90% of the time.
 
"There's absolutely no need to put early-game pressure on them. Just load 7+ energy on a benched Gothitelle, while walling with an energy-less active. Swap KO the active, then sweep."

While in the mean time the opponent could easy knockout Reuniclus? I think this works better in The Truth than in Gothitelle, because there is a lock while the staller is active.
 
Glaceon said:
"There's absolutely no need to put early-game pressure on them. Just load 7+ energy on a benched Gothitelle, while walling with an energy-less active. Swap KO the active, then sweep."

While in the mean time the opponent could easy knockout Reuniclus? I think this works better in The Truth than in Gothitelle, because there is a lock while the staller is active.

Not if your walling with another Gothitelle like you should
 
It isn't that easy.

And if you have an active Gothitelle, it is much easier just to attack using it.
 
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