What Decks Will Win Cities/Cities Discussion

What deck will win the most Cities?

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Glaceon said:
It isn't that easy.
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...Its not easy to get 2 Gothitelle out when the opponent cant use trainers?

Glaceon said:
And if you have an active Gothitelle, it is much easier just to attack using it.
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Isnt that easy if you cant get enough energy on it to neither attack or do enough damage to come even close to koing...
 
To add onto alex's first response, you don't need the 2nd Gothitelle. You need an active Gothitelle, and a benched Gothitelle basic-thing to load energy on. Then, when it's time to KO the first Gothitelle, you're going to have Twins access. If you don't, wait until you do to swap ko it.
 
^Its Gothita, and ok.

alexmf2 said:
Isnt that easy if you cant get enough energy on it to neither attack or do enough damage to come even close to koing...
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While then just wait until you load up energy?
 
Assuming you meant they instead of then, then no, they would be stupid if they did that. They will just keep attacking and hope to overload you with damage. Once you have enough energy to ko Typh (or enough to ko before you run out of energy), there is nothing they can do.
 
You assumed wrong, I meant then.

And there would be a lot of damage and possibly an overload if Gothitelle is walling too.
 
Yeah, if you play right, overload is their only hope at winning, aside from a major energy/Twins drought. Realistically, the chances of it happening are horribly slim, though. I'd go so far as to call it a 90-10 matchup.
 
Good luck setting up 3 stage twos against a deck that can get a T3 120, runs at least two Catcher, and four Junk Arm. Not sure how you can wall that much damage also. Also, that's another plus to google, it has SEL, which one hits everything. Goth has a hard time walling sometimes. Especially against consistent 120s. I'm not using theorymon either, this is what happens every game.
 
Well it's interesting how your testing differs from literally every single other player's I've ever met. I have yet to meet one player who thinks Gothitelle vs Reshiram is even close to favorable for Reshiram. Everybody posting in this thread also agrees with me.

What do you think the triangle in that format was/is, anyway? Everybody else thinks (knows) it's Reuniclus > Dragons > Magnezone > Reuniclus.

There's obviously no convincing you, but can you find quotes or something from some post somewhere where there is another player who shares your opinion on this matchup? I'm quite convinced I could find a very good number of quotes from this forum and others to support my argument, and/or get others to post here agreeing with me, can you do the same?
 
I thought Tyram started teching 2-1-2 Kingdra lines to deal with the lock problem though. Were those attempts unsuccessful? I haven't really used either deck.
 
Magnevire said:
I thought Tyram started teching 2-1-2 Kingdra lines to deal with the lock problem though. Were those attempts unsuccessful? I haven't really used either deck.
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I've been testing it, and that is correct, a lot of people are using it. It works.
 
Celebi23 said:
Well it's interesting how your testing differs from literally every single other player's I've ever met. I have yet to meet one player who thinks Gothitelle vs Reshiram is even close to favorable for Reshiram. Everybody posting in this thread also agrees with me.

What do you think the triangle in that format was/is, anyway? Everybody else thinks (knows) it's Reuniclus > Dragons > Magnezone > Reuniclus
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This is all true, very much so.
As for Kingdra, if they get at least 50 damage on Kingdra (assuming it has rare candied) then Jirachi kills it. If it tries to evolve under the lock, CATCHER!
Goth has counters too.
 
Magnevire said:
I thought Tyram started teching 2-1-2 Kingdra lines to deal with the lock problem though. Were those attempts unsuccessful? I haven't really used either deck.
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It was somewhat successful. But, it isn't enough to give it a great matchup there, or arguably even a favorable matchup. It still can't do too much to a T2 Gothitlle, which happens a lot with that deck.

Furthermore, doing that usually means dropping Ninetales, which means ruining your other matchups, especially with N in the format. It's not a card I'd want in my TyRam.
 
I played it Sunday, got 12 tails in a row, rage quitted that deck. Never playing it again -.-
 
HenryP said:
I played it Sunday, got 12 tails in a row, rage quitted that deck. Never playing it again -.-
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This is an example of one of a few reasons why I'll never play the deck. If I can play an equally good deck without the luck aspect, there's no reason not to.
 
I always suck with flips. But RS testing gave me amazing results. I would play it if I could beat Magnezone with it...

Also, I suppose the match up could indeed be bad. In thefinals of Orlando Goth won against Reshiram, and he teched Serperior as well so it was pretty inconsistent and I'd think it'd be outsped. In MY testing Reshiram clearly outsped it. It could be for a number of reasons.
 
Celebi23 said:
It was somewhat successful. But, it isn't enough to give it a great matchup there, or arguably even a favorable matchup. It still can't do too much to a T2 Gothitlle, which happens a lot with that deck.
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Without Twins? I don't see how that can happen "a lot", certainly any more than any other T2 stage 2.
 
There's no need for goth to be fast, and it doesn't matter if you get outsped. If they have one prize left when you get set up, you still win with goth.
 
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