What HGSS: Undaunted card has the most potential to be the main star of a deck?

Rikko145

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I think the card in Undaunted with the most potential to have a deck based around it is Sneasel.

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I'm going to combine it with Sableye, Honchkrow G, disruption, and Staraptor FB Lv.X.
 
Leafeon for sure.

And in reference to sneasel, no, just no lol.

I mean, it's a nice card for quick damage, but being ko'd by bright look and dragon rush,
there's no way you'll have 2 energy and a full bench, plus a backup attacker before you're ko'd.

Maybe if you made a rush deck out of it, but it would have horrible late game.
 
Ah, sneasel is bringing back memories, but it's gonna have a x2 fighting which sucks :/

This card might be good imo:
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LOL @ Sneasel. It was Broken in Neo Genesis, now it's a bunch of crud. No offense, but it's a joke, right?

Leafeon, Weavile, and Vileplume are some of my favs.
 
I think making a dark deck with Sneasel/Weavile may be good. In fact, I have most of the cards for it (besides Houndoom and Houndoom Prime, duh :D) With Tyrannitar Prime, Sableye, Spiritomb, Weavile/Sneasel, Skuntank, and Houndoom Prime. That's a lot of Pokemon, but I know I (and even Rikko145) can pull something good off with this card. Espeon and eeveelution decks aren't even that good, IMO. And Vileplume just sucks. Might as well have Spiritomb, which you can fit into this dark deck. You people need some creativity.
 
PikachewTofu said:
I think making a dark deck with Sneasel/Weavile may be good. In fact, I have most of the cards for it (besides Houndoom and Houndoom Prime, duh :D) With Tyrannitar Prime, Sableye, Spiritomb, Weavile/Sneasel, Skuntank, and Houndoom Prime. That's a lot of Pokemon, but I know I (and even Rikko145) can pull something good off with this card. Espeon and eeveelution decks aren't even that good, IMO. And Vileplume just sucks. Might as well have Spiritomb, which you can fit into this dark deck. You people need some creativity.

Yeah! Tell ya' what, after the 14th, how about we start making one over PM?
 
It would need to be used along these lines, Weavile memory berry, way too many special darks and defenders (if they are getting released). Also lots of Sableyes and as much lock stuff as possible, Mespirit, maybe Vileplume? Let loose Giritina?
 
Rikko145 said:
Yeah! Tell ya' what, after the 14th, how about we start making one over PM?
It's a deal! We might make a nice rogue deck! I'm excited now!

Vulpix Yolk said:
It would need to be used along these lines, Weavile memory berry, way too many special darks and defenders (if they are getting released). Also lots of Sableyes and as much lock stuff as possible, Mespirit, maybe Vileplume? Let loose Giritina?

Memory Berry isn't a half bad idea. Never thought of it. Defenders are coming out in Undaunted.
 
Espeon and Umbreon Prime, Houndoom, Leafeon, and Scizor Prime. Those are the big ones in this set.
 
PikachewTofu said:
It's a deal! We might make a nice rogue deck! I'm excited now!

Vulpix Yolk said:
It would need to be used along these lines, Weavile memory berry, way too many special darks and defenders (if they are getting released). Also lots of Sableyes and as much lock stuff as possible, Mespirit, maybe Vileplume? Let loose Giritina?

Memory Berry isn't a half bad idea. Never thought of it. Defenders are coming out in Undaunted.



Yes, I was just thinking that myself. Perhaps the engine could utilize Staraptor FB Lv.X (with a bench shield).
 
PikachewTofu said:
I think making a dark deck with Sneasel/Weavile may be good. In fact, I have most of the cards for it (besides Houndoom and Houndoom Prime, duh :D) With Tyrannitar Prime, Sableye, Spiritomb, Weavile/Sneasel, Skuntank, and Houndoom Prime. That's a lot of Pokemon, but I know I (and even Rikko145) can pull something good off with this card. Espeon and eeveelution decks aren't even that good, IMO. And Vileplume just sucks. Might as well have Spiritomb, which you can fit into this dark deck. You people need some creativity.

Vileplume works from the bench and doesn't have the meager HP problem Spiritomb (and the beauty of it is you can run it WITH Spiritomb to hold the trainer lock the whole game) has and will drastically slow down SP decks which will reduce them to top decking. Nothing in Luxchomp can OHKO it, so I would beg to differ how it "sucks". Before you peg me off as a "uncreative" metagamer, I have already proxied up a Houndoom/Weavile deck I am going to test at my prerelease after the tourny. But that does not change the fact Vileplume is a really good card for slowing your opponent down especially if they run SP.

Rikko145 said:
Yes, I was just thinking that myself. Perhaps the engine could utilize Staraptor FB Lv.X (with a bench shield).

Not saying my list is the word or anything but when I tried Staraptor FB X in the deck I found it really hard getting him active and back on the bench (and this was playtesting it with no opponent), I had the same idea with Giratina X but again, hard to get in-and-out. The memory berry on Weavile doesn't sound like a bad idea though.
 
supersonic711 said:
Vileplume works from the bench and doesn't have the meager HP problem Spiritomb (and the beauty of it is you can run it WITH Spiritomb to hold the trainer lock the whole game) has and will drastically slow down SP decks which will reduce them to top decking. Nothing in Luxchomp can OHKO it, so I would beg to differ how it "sucks". Before you peg me off as a uncreative metagamer, I have already proxied up a Houndoom/Weavile deck I am going to test at my prerelease after the tourny. But that does not change the fact Vileplume is a really good card for slowing your opponent down especially if they run SP.

Rikko145 said:
Yes, I was just thinking that myself. Perhaps the engine could utilize Staraptor FB Lv.X (with a bench shield).
Not saying my list is the word or anything but when I tried Staraptor FB X in the deck I found it really hard getting him active and back on the bench, I had the same idea with Giratina X but again, hard to get in-and-out. The memory berry on Weavile doesn't sound like a bad idea though.

All you have to do is Warp Point/Warp Energy/Switch/anything that switches your active, level up, and free retreat back.
 
Rikko145 said:
All you have to do is Warp Point/Warp Energy/Switch/anything that switches your active, level up, and free retreat back.

But you're running a deck that focuses on discarding your opponents hand (assuming your idea for the deck revolves around Weavile)which means you are probably going to be using Judge and Let Loose to dwindle your opponents hand, which means your hand is gonna be just as small as your opponents and there is no sure fire way to search out all the cards you listed when you get your Star X in hand. Another factor is space im having trouble filling in all the staple cards you will need to pull this deck off with consistency (4 BTS, 4 Sableye, 4 Special Dark, X Normal Darks, ect)
 
supersonic711 said:
But you're running a deck that focuses on discarding your opponents hand (assuming your idea for the deck revolves around Weavile)which means you are probably going to be using Judge and Let Loose to dwindle your opponents hand, which means your hand is gonna be just as small as your opponents and there is no sure fire way to search out all the cards you listed when you get your Star X in hand. Another factor is space im having trouble filling in all the staple cards you will need to pull this deck off with consistency (4 BTS, 4 Sableye, 4 Special Dark, X Normal Darks, ect)

Just give me a little time to tool around and test it. I'll get back to you.
 
I'm thinking the Combee will make a good deck. I'm probably going to use UD Combee, SF Vespiqueen(with Memory Berry), and rainbow energy to attack. Landmin will give me some health support. Perhaps a small line of Jumpluff.

That's all I really see in this set, but I do hope I can try an eeveelutions deck.
 
Personally I think the Mismagius of this set is going to be well used because of how many trainers, supporters, and stadiums are currently used in todays decks and Mismagius' ability to "Look at your opponent's hand. This attack does 30 damage times the number of Trainer, Supporter, and Stadium cards in your opponent's hand." for 2 energy (1 psychic, 1 colorless). If anything it will become a very effective Machamp counter with a one hit kill if your opponent has 4 supporters, trainers, or stadiums.

Also, you could probably form a deck around Gliscor. It may seem odd but 1 energy for 30 dmg and a paralyze as long as that pokemon has no dmg on it and 3 energy (1 fighting, 2 colorless) for 50 dmg and a poison. It's weakness is a x2 to water which shouldn't cause too much of a problem because water decks are not used very much and the resistance to electricity can also make this an effective counter to luxray GL Lv. X.

On a side note, what do you guys think about the Smeargle that is being released in this set becoming a tech as big as even claydol because of its PokePower - "Once during your turn (before your attack), you may look at your opponent’s hand. Choose 1 Supporter card you find there and use the effect of that card as the effect of this power. This power can't be used if Smeargle is affected by a Special Condition.", which will essentially allow you to use two supporter cards a turn and determine the effectiveness of the afore mentioned Mismagius attack.

Although I think that the Lux- variants are going to be the top performers of this format until they release another set (whatever is coming after undaunted).
 
Rikko145 said:
Just give me a little time to tool around and test it. I'll get back to you.
Tomorrow (my pre-release day), I'm testing my version, then over PM we can combine our versions, take things out, and make the final deck.
 
Guys, our jumpy and pluffy friend is going to enjoy destroying Sneasel...Weavile, however, is game changing...as a tech, at least.
 
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