YGZ and Mega man are probably the safest you can get.
Discussion What to play for the remaining State Championships?
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What goes into Mega Man besides, perhaps, Regice? Bear in mind I only have 1 Jolteon EX and can't get any more in the near future.
The lists of other players at PA states in seniors only had one Jolteon, and there were 2-3 in cut. MegaMan can run Raikou to do a ton of damage and tank attacks on a non-EX.
I only have 1 Raikou, and that's the problem. I don't really think I can get any more.
They are fairly cheap now, you could easily pick up a couple more from your LGS for 2-3$ a piece. And you probably don't need more than 2 to run in Mega Man. As for Jolteon EX only one is really needed, unless you really want to focus on it, then two should be played, but it's not the type of card you have to have four of to make it work.
I know im going to either play a Garchomp variant, or my trusty M Rayquaza EX / Shaymin EX / Aegislash EX. I think Garchomp has solid matchups across the board, and is pretty much an auto win against YZG. Plus, it can still do decent against Trev as long as you play smart. I would hate to play my Ray list, and just get totally Walled on my T1 due to them having an explosive start and starting the lock right away. But it too has great matchups across the board, and my inclusion of aegislash has proven to be really good to stall if needed, since 90% of decks in format run Special Energies.
Oh Night March, how thee is still dominating the meta. In all honesty, I'm trying to pickup Flareon EX and make a deck out of it that is rather speedy for states. I have list made out and I am now practicing with it to get ready.
One thing I would say about YGZ is I think you are underestimating it by a lot. I'm probably going to play Vespiquen/Vileplume for states but I've played Garchomp my fair share too. If they run Fighting Fury Belt and Jirachi though it can be really bad for Garchomp. Jirachi can break focus sashes and and discard Strong Energy which is very important. With Fighting Fury Belt it is near impossible to OHKO Yveltal-EX. Also Baby Yveltal and Gallade are nightmares for the deck, because you can't OHKO them. Also Garchomp has a horrendous Vespiquen/Vileplume matchup unless you run Maxie's Garchomp. Even with that if they go first you have an auto-loss. Though on the other hand Garchomp has a great Night March, MegaMan, and Seismitina matchup. So I think its a gamble but if you'd like I'd recommend it
. Next onto Mega Ray. Mega Ray isn't bad really. Its has a glaring weakness to YGZ but has pretty solid matchups all around if you play enough Aegislash to deal with Night March and Milotic
My ray list has two aegislash, so i think its enough to deal with special energy abusers, but that surprise hex maniac will hurt though. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love my ray list, its gotten me quite a few T4's at 30+ tourneys. But i also love my Maxie / Chomp list I have for standard. I think it could do really well, plus I may be dumb for not running focus sash, but muscle bands have really helped me hit those KOing Numbers, especially with Lucario EX.One thing I would say about YGZ is I think you are underestimating it by a lot. I'm probably going to play Vespiquen/Vileplume for states but I've played Garchomp my fair share too. If they run Fighting Fury Belt and Jirachi though it can be really bad for Garchomp. Jirachi can break focus sashes and and discard Strong Energy which is very important. With Fighting Fury Belt it is near impossible to OHKO Yveltal-EX. Also Baby Yveltal and Gallade are nightmares for the deck, because you can't OHKO them. Also Garchomp has a horrendous Vespiquen/Vileplume matchup unless you run Maxie's Garchomp. Even with that if they go first you have an auto-loss. Though on the other hand Garchomp has a great Night March, MegaMan, and Seismitina matchup. So I think its a gamble but if you'd like I'd recommend it
Yeah 2 Aegislash-EX should get the job done I would definitely run at least 2 Focus Sash though. You autoloss to YGZ and have a lot more trouble with Night March. TBH I'd run both but if you have to choose Focus Sash is a whole lot better
I would definitely run at least 2 Focus Sash though. You autoloss to YGZ and have a lot more trouble with Night March. TBH I'd run both but if you have to choose Focus Sash is a whole lot better
I will have to test with a mixture of sash and bands, my buddy plays YZG, he even got top 8 in nevada states, ill test against him.Yeah 2 Aegislash-EX should get the job done
Yeah I run 2 of both. Trust me its worth it If Yveltal can't be OHKO'd by Muscle Band they can kill 2 Garchomps with one Yveltal-EX which is very bad.
If Yveltal can't be OHKO'd by Muscle Band they can kill 2 Garchomps with one Yveltal-EX which is very bad.
At least the focus sash will let you get off two of garchomps attacks securing the positive prize trade with a yveltal EX. Sounds good, I didn't even think about that. >.<Yeah I run 2 of both. Trust me its worth it
Yeah YGZ is a very bad matchup if you don't have focus sash.
Can you PM/ post your Vileplume vespiquen list?One thing I would say about YGZ is I think you are underestimating it by a lot. I'm probably going to play Vespiquen/Vileplume for states but I've played Garchomp my fair share too. If they run Fighting Fury Belt and Jirachi though it can be really bad for Garchomp. Jirachi can break focus sashes and and discard Strong Energy which is very important. With Fighting Fury Belt it is near impossible to OHKO Yveltal-EX. Also Baby Yveltal and Gallade are nightmares for the deck, because you can't OHKO them. Also Garchomp has a horrendous Vespiquen/Vileplume matchup unless you run Maxie's Garchomp. Even with that if they go first you have an auto-loss. Though on the other hand Garchomp has a great Night March, MegaMan, and Seismitina matchup. So I think its a gamble but if you'd like I'd recommend it
No problem! Here it is
POKEMON (26):
4X Combee
4X Vespiquen
4X Oddish
4X Gloom
3X Vileplume
4X Unown
3X Shaymin-EX
TRAINERS (30):
4X Professor Sycamore
4X Battle Compressor
3X Acro Bike
2X Revitalizer
4X Trainer's Mail
4X Ultra Ball
2X AZ
1X Lysandre
2X Float Stone
4X Forest of Giant Plants
ENERGY (4):
4X DCE
Hope this helps!
POKEMON (26):
4X Combee
4X Vespiquen
4X Oddish
4X Gloom
3X Vileplume
4X Unown
3X Shaymin-EX
TRAINERS (30):
4X Professor Sycamore
4X Battle Compressor
3X Acro Bike
2X Revitalizer
4X Trainer's Mail
4X Ultra Ball
2X AZ
1X Lysandre
2X Float Stone
4X Forest of Giant Plants
ENERGY (4):
4X DCE
Hope this helps!
Risky play with no way to get back your DCE. But i can see how the deck would work. it looks ultra consistent for the t1 lock.No problem! Here it is
POKEMON (26):
4X Combee
4X Vespiquen
4X Oddish
4X Gloom
3X Vileplume
4X Unown
3X Shaymin-EX
TRAINERS (30):
4X Professor Sycamore
4X Battle Compressor
3X Acro Bike
2X Revitalizer
4X Trainer's Mail
4X Ultra Ball
2X AZ
1X Lysandre
2X Float Stone
4X Forest of Giant Plants
ENERGY (4):
4X DCE
Hope this helps!
It is extremely consistent. It autolosses to entei, mirror and trevenant if they go first. The matchup is fine for all 3 if you go first. Also you DEFINITELY need revitalizer that's what makes the deck good. You can battle compressor away vespiquen and combe especially and get themy back to get multiple vespiquen on the field. It also is good with the Vileplume line.
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