What's going to dominate cities and why?

What deck's going to dominate cities?

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gyarados will dominate cities because expert belt plus department girl means you will always get the ohko. and your weakness no longer matters becauyse you can search bubblecoat with it.
150 hp doing 110 for zero enerrgy? seems good but who knows what will change.
 
i think slamence, if u get that power+ them haveing an expert belt on there pokemon, that half ur prizes, Good Game?? i think so...
 
revdjweb said:
tangrowth means running tangrowth lvl x, almost certainly also meaning sceptile, claydol, etc. this deck is going to have all kinds of problems against flygon variants that already exist. flytrap will deck it out, flygon x can OHKO tangrowth x and gallade, which is seeing more play in both GG and FGGD decks can strategically OHKO a tangrowth at least once a game. so I think there are plenty of popular things which can OHKO it without resorting to fire pokemon. plus tangrowth builds will mean a large bench, making it very susceptible to dark palm dusknoir (which is still everywhere).
don't get me wrong, I think tangrowth will be better than ever, I just don't think it will be top tier.
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Flygon won't KO Tangrowth with Shaymin Lv.X, which it should have.
 
What's department girl do?
Also I think Tangrowth will be Gyra's biggest hurdle for cities, plain and simple.
Also Expert Belt IMO shouldn't be in Gyra, two prizes is big and since Gyra relies on getting out as many as possible(KO one bring up the next w/Pokémon Res and other stuff) it hurts it by giving up to many prizes.
Tangrowth seems overhyped but who knows.
 
...why does no one care about Gengar? I think he'll be a huuuuge format breaker because of Level Down, which is an ability we have not yet been introduced. Level down mean it laughs in Arceus' face, and owns Salamance so hard it's going to cry at the 2HKO with Level Down. Fainting Spell also spells "death" for most decks, especially since SPs are gone, which means Skuntank G is as well.

Tangrowth will see a lot of play as well in my opinion, and will make Gyarados completely obsolete. Tangrowth loses to Charizard, though, who I think will see a good amount of play just by itself.

As for Salamance, he isn't hyped enough. An energy every turn with Delcatty? Uh, yeah, that sounds good. 2 prizes? lol better. And if Expert Belt does see play, that's 4 prizes, again a mechanic we have not yet had introduced.

Arceus isn't very good, let's get over it. Gengar walks alllllll over it, and so does Machamp. FlyChamp will still be around for Salamance, although it'll be interesting to see how Salamance will tear its face in half.

Speedrill is alright, I guess it might see play. Not as much as it does now probably.


  • Tier 1:

    Gengar
    Salamance
    Flygon

    Tier 2:

    Tangrowth
    Charizard
    Beedrill

    Tier 3:

    SP Decks
    Arceus
    Gyarados

Tier 1.5 is kinda redundant in my opinion :X

Anyway, that's how I personally see it. I don't see Arceus making a huge impact on the metagame, but, who knows.
 
OK Tell me how gyarados is on the same level as arceus? :p

Plus gyarados has advantage over charizard. With the right techs, it can beat beedrill and tangrowth is too slow to even touch gyarados.

Gyarados should be AT LEAST Tier 2, if not tier 1.
 
Meaty said:
Flygon won't KO Tangrowth with Shaymin Lv.X, which it should have.
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even if you get both level x's out flygon will just KO shaymin before moving on to tangrowth. tangrowth (4-3-1), shaymin (2-2), sceptile(2-1-2), claydol (2-2) plus techs (uxie/azelf) seems immensely crowded and slow to me. that's 21 pokemon already.
 
Tangrowth will end up being like Rampardos - It seems all nice on paper, but when it comes down to the crunch it will fail, not immensly, but it will fail. if anything it will see some play if any as all lvX's in all sets have been used to an extent, minus a few. Charizard already beats it for weakness and is faster. Luxape and Blazeay are still viable options for CC so Tangrowth wil have to deal with bench control and wekaness there as well. and then there's Flygon which will just OHKO Shaymin lvX if it even touches the bench thus ruining Tangrowths 190 HP even though 150 HP is still pretty good, but even then it will have to face up against Salamence, and if they're runing the SF mence then they'll be hitting for 100 for 2 energies (120 w/expert belt). Anything that is faster and can set up by T2-3 will be able to beat Tangrowth, maybe a few excepts.
 
#1weavile said:
OK Tell me how gyarados is on the same level as arceus? :p

Plus gyarados has advantage over charizard. With the right techs, it can beat beedrill and tangrowth is too slow to even touch gyarados.

Gyarados should be AT LEAST Tier 2, if not tier 1.
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gyarados is tier1.
lol at sally being higher
 
I have no idea if anyone stated this yet but:

Tangrowth Lv X will crush MOST decks in Cities.

For starters, Tangrowth is NOT bothered by Gengar X because most of tangrowths powers are from its regular tangrowth card.

ALL SP Pokemon have lower HP then Tangrowth and therefore will be killed one shot.
Tangrowth has healing powers too and can easily match gyarados.

Personally, I think he will ruin ALL SP decks.

I also think that Cities and States will be running LOTS Of Flygon, Salamence, and Tangrowth decks.

Both dragons here have high HP and high damage output attacks. They are the only decks (pretty much) that can stand up to Tangrowth and NOT be 1HKO'd.

However, that will change too when Shaymin Ground form is added with Tangrowth. Maybe even add and expert Belt too.


So yeah, Flygon, Salamence and Tangrowth will be the top 3 decks at cities and probably states as well.

Now, which deck gets 1st, 2nd, and 3rd? I dont know, and I really dont care. But It aint going to be gyarados.
 
Jake007 said:
Is Machamp still even competing?
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Well straight Machamp will no longer be a viable deck choice once PA comes out as SP decks MIGHT see less play. But as a tech in decks like Flygon (flychamp) and Gengar (gechamp) then its ok.
 
Straight Machamp is still good you just need to tech it out. Tangrowth is terrible, you need to put stages 2s in a stage 1 deck to pull it of, I'd love to see this take on a Luxape deck or even Blazeray. You tell me how it will set up every game.
 
LOL, Arceus lacks consistancy unless you have a backup source of draw (Claydol, Uxie) Running Arceus totally based upon Rippling Wave isn't a good idea at all. I know, I've tried.

For the topic, this is a hard one. We are currently seeing Tangrowth, Salamence, Gengar, and Flygon. While all of this may seem good, anything that pretty much runs a Spiritomb PA has it. Although you get locked too, your deck is based around Spiritomb. Your opponent's deck might not be. If you lock the Trainers, they'll have to manually evolve (or use BTS) while you have a manual evolution and Spiritomb's attack. If they do use BTS, run Spiritomb+Flygon RR to just prevent damage.
 
gengar the baller said:
Straight Machamp is still good you just need to tech it out. Tangrowth is terrible, you need to put stages 2s in a stage 1 deck to pull it of, I'd love to see this take on a Luxape deck or even Blazeray. You tell me how it will set up every game.
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How does it not?

Tangrowth X has higher HP then Luxray X. Therefore, his Swallow Up attack with hit it for 120 and KO.
Blaziken will only avoid a 1HKO if Shaymin X is NOT out.

Face it, 99% of SP pokemon have 120 HP or less. Tangrowth will be hitting them all for 120 then.
As stated above, you can tech in a 1-0-1 Nidoqueen to heal even more.
 
Tangrowth; Slow and inconsisent, loses to charizard. Add shaymin and you've got green trash.

Arceus; horribad. I barely call this a deck.

Salamence; great power and attacks; very fast setup

Charizard; Somewhat fast, but could be good.

Flygon; folds to Salamence, but still has potential.

SP; Actually a good deck, Tangrowth fears this to some extent.

This is all theorymon now; but I can predict Arceus will be trash.
 
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