Very true, Gen 3 remakes would be soooo cool! But them being on the 3DS before gen6? I don't think so.
Card Slinger J said:Dragon Master Ryuuji said:I think backwards compatibility with Gen 5 would be nice, honestly I don't see why anyone would want to catch every single Pokemon again in one generation. It's better to just transfer em. Though compatibility should be obvious. If anything a 6th Gen might put a stunt in all that PokeSav stuff.
Exactly my point I'd rather transfer them as well too, If anything I'd hate to do what MTGXerxes from YouTube did by sticking exclusively to one Generation of the franchise. In his case it's Gen IV but my case could be Gen V If it ever comes down to that in Gen VI which I hope won't be the case.
You do know why people use PokeSav right? To save time and effort from having to breed and EV Train their Pokemon for competitive battling when doing it the old fashioned way would take several hours or a day or two, maybe a week depending on what kind of schedule you have I guess. Why do you think PokeTubers like AAmazing0 uses PokeSav?
DragonTamer said:What if they are rushing it to get out of their pattern and do something COMPLETELY out of the ordinary? What if they want to now release a Pokemon Gray that has the original dragon made up of Zekrom, Reshiram and Kyurem? I think that's actually possible and I would be slightly happy that they're going out of their regular patterns to do it, although it would be boring for many people to play in the same region for the third, fourth or even fifth time.
DragonTamer said:I don't think Gen V will end this early, I mean this Gen has only been out for 2 years!
Grumpigfarmer said:Very true, Gen 3 remakes would be soooo cool! But them being on the 3DS before gen6? I don't think so.
Mitja said:AquaticWartortle said:I do agree that the generation is being rushed, especially with Genesect being released extremely early! But I disagree a bit with the 3DS part, when the Nintendo DS was released in 2004, all we got were side games until 2007!
What are you talking about? The DS came out a year after Firered/Leafgreen and 3 months after Emerald.
But here we have, not just BW milking DS' success, but the unavoidable sequels dragged it way over.
And as WPM said, they were one of the first to recieve the devkits for 3DS.. surely they have looked at it over the past 3 years no?
There is no way on earth they would not make the next games for 3DS.
I mean, don't you think a popular franchise like Pokemon should actually be promoting nintendos current 2 year old handheld? lol
Its a no brainer to me.
RiverShock said:Urgh, when I first saw that post, I thought it was going to be more than speculation. I'm disappointed.
I really don't think the next generation is that close. If they decide they need to fill the gap between now and the next gen, they can and quite possibly will do a Ruby/Sapphire remake. Along those lines, I also expect a Kyogre/Groudon movie, rather than something with a new Pokemon. There is no rule stating they have to have a new Pokemon, written or unwritten. Also, given both Kyogre and Groudon haven't had more than cameos (Groudon hasn't even really had that) in movies, it makes a lot of sense. Aside from Ho-Oh, I think they're the ONLY remaining "ingame ubers" not to have had a major role in a movie. (Ingame ubers being the non-event Pokemon banned from the Battle facilities.) I think 2013 will be a year of semi-important games rather than the start of the next generation. (I expect a new Ranger game and quite possibly a Wii/Wii U game, as well as a possible R/S remake.)
I just hope that in the event a Generation 6 occurs, older Pokemon (possibly with a few Event Pokemon exceptions, in a method similar to the Relocator) aren't importable. It's kind of ridiculous that Pokemon from Gen 3 are still usable despite GBA support having been dropped years ago. I could almost see them starting Gen 6 with a GSC/HGSS-style Ruby/Sapphire sequel with a new region alongside it as an excuse to do this. Almost.
Rayquazaking said:and, another thing, WHEN THE HECK WILL THEY MAKE A CONSOLE POKEMON GAME FOR A CHANGE?
and no, they put him in events for BW 2, and u have to TRADE to get him to BW 1
Cooltrainer Alan said:Im thinking-
6th gen will be
Pokemon __ version and pokemon __ version
R/S or E Virtual Console 3DS(with multiplayer :O?!?!)
some 3DS app
Pokemon Combo game/Sequel
Teal said:WPM, exactly my thoughts. Anyone who thinks that:
- RSE remakes come out before gen 6
- next games are not for 3DS
- next games don't come out late 2013 (possibly early 2014, would be really unusual though) [Japan]
is being really ridiculous.
Check said:This is something to think about because true Melloetta is technically Ash`s pokemon but he has yet to capture it plus of how long the 3DShas been out is weird. Also why is Genosect out so early and getting his own movie is something to think about. Then comes the games the 1st 5th gen game came out in March of last year Black and White the 2nd game Pokemon Rumble Blast came out in October of last year then the 3rd game came out in October of this year what was with the 1 year time lap-st between those game and why no Mystery Dungeon for 5th gen anyway? In this way i`d say yes.
Mitja said:Sandstorm and Hail forme.
Groudons activated in the desert, Kyogres in the suspicious icy bottom of Shoal Cave.
And regis turn from solid to liquid:
Ice->Water
Rock->Ground (mud)
Steel->Poison (acid) (or fire-magma)
Well there is a chance where they will make a sequel 10 years in the future like black 2 and white 2Mitja said:obviously there is gonna be something new.
Heres my take on this topic
http://saiph-charon.deviantart.com/journal/What-s-their-next-move-2-0-335223314
1.-Genesects reveal was rushed
2.-The DS is dead
3.-Gen3 games are as outdated as Gen1
Now on to why each of these matters and what the consequences are.
1.The reveal of Genesect (and wifi-download release shortly after) at the end of Keldeos Movie (Meloetta was in the short that plays before it) was completely unexpected by everyone.
So they have nothing left to drag this generation out a bit longer like was the case with Arceus, which was neatly being promoted along the GS remakes in generation IV. Generation V can therefore be considered finished.
Since only the supporting legendary roles of the next movie are revealed in the summer (and the actual star several months later in February), it is clear that some new Pokemon will be revealed this Winter. And that will signal a 6th generation being fully in development.
2.With the DS out of the way for good, it simply means that any future game will be made for the 3DS, which has been out for almost 2 years now. Its way overdue for a big franchise like Pokemon to start helping Nintendo sell its current handheld anyway.
This means that the next game will technically run on a new engine, new graphics etc, which basically makes it the game that sets the style that will last through generation 6.
3.The majority of people are expecting RSE remakes. Sounds easier than it is for Gamefreak to realize for a lot of minor reasons (like the issues that arise in the plot if they decided to skip Emerald like before, or the fact that RSE took place a decade ago next to recent games), and major reasons (it does not fit well with the fact that they need to do something new). But the thing is also, that RSE are just as old as the first remakes of the first games. Which begs the question, how justified is it to continue remaking newer games when the oldest become the oldest again?
And this emerging irony is why I think it is time to abandon the "remake concept" and replace it with something fresh. Especially now when the "simple third version concept" was just replaced with something actually creative, "sequels".
The conclusions from this:
1.-Gen V is finished
2.-next game will be Gen 6 "style" (a proper 3DS game)
3.-if Hoenn will be featured, it will not be simple remakes
To me, the less likely possibility is that Gamefreak goes ahead and milks the Hoenn-nostalgia cow, with either a RSE-sequel or a RSE deeper retelling.
The much more likely possibility seems to be Generation VI, because it makes much more sense to start the new technical generation with, and because we will know at least one new pokemon half a year before it can possibly be released, which won't be featured in a RSE-whatever game...
I'm sure it won't be another "fresh start" like RSE or BW, it will not drop another ~150-bomb. So new places, new pokemon, new plot, new legends are all a given.
It will either be an expansion (like Johto was to Kanto):
-for Unova
introducing new starters, new evolutionary stages for mostly if not exclusively Unova-Pokemon, along with a handful of casual Pokemon lines,
maybe more Plasma or a new group lead by any of the sages,
its own legendaries, perhaps a better glimpse at the original dragon for the post-game
-for Hoenn
which would be a much more elegant way of bringing Hoenn back to live than some simple cash-milking copy&paste remakes. Hoenn could be a post-game visit much like Kanto in GS, or most of it could be part of the main plot (similar to how BW2 explored a bigger Unova).
The starters could be new or the good old RSE ones (which IMO would be quite smart, since the Fire type for example could have more new casual Fire Pokemon instead of consisting mostly of starters LOL), there would obviously have to be new main legendaries, but related to the Hoenn ones. One wild idea would be 2 behemoths employing the other 2 weather effects (which both happen to be hazardous), Hail and Sandstorm, much like Groudon and Kyogre.
It would be taking place more than a decade after the events of RSE obviously, so there could tons of old faces, any younger relatives and kids for us to meet along the way and plenty other nostalgia elements.
-in general (like Sinnoh did)
simply a huge new region, but a unique mix of old pokemon with some new, plenty new stages, a big plot etc.
All 3 seem very plausible and interesting. But the 2nd would get rid of the need for RSE remakes and remakes in general.
The next thing to look forward to, is clues about the next movies star when the title will be revealed in December.
Then the star itself, a new pokemon, should be revealed around February.
And announcements of the next games at any point after that depending on how much longer it will take them to finish.
Bob The Magical Penguin said:We don't need 6th gen already.
SoulSilver said:Hello, I'm not someone whose active here at all, but I saw the news article on the main set and felt the need to post up why I feel that for every reason there is to suggest R/S won't be remade, there are just as many reasons suggesting the remakes will indeed exist (and possibly next year):
SoulSilver said:1) Many R/S games are having their battery run dry.
This is something people had encountered with the 1st and 2nd gen games and is now effecting R/S games (I can speak from experience here, my Sapphire had it happen) and thus you can't play them anymore. You'd be foolish to think that Nintendo and GameFreak don't know this.
SoulSilver said:2) Nintendo -- and in turn GameFreak -- are about moving forward.
You may able to get 3rd Pokemon via a couple methods (3rd -> 4th -> 5th or 4th (Plat/HG/SS) -> 5th), but Nintendo nor GameFreak wants to admit to that. They want to move forward with new products and cut off support for 3rd and soon 4th generation games. I guarantee you by 2014 latest we'll have a new model of 3DS that will not read DS game cards. You might say "no, they're the same shape as 3DS games!" yeah well new Wii models and Wii U won't read GCN games, new models of 360 and PS3 won't read XBox and PS2 games respectively. All of which their games are the same shape -- a standard disc. It'd be a simple task to yank backwards compatibility from new models of 3DSes. And yes you could still play 5th gen on a DS/DSLite to use the GBA slot, but again: NINTENDO WON'T TELL YOU TO. They'd push the new 3DS model.
SoulSilver said:3) 10th anniversary
Yes I know the anniversary has come and gone, but they already had B2/W2 going. That was using B/W's engine and was a simple game to make, I assure you. With R/S remakes, however, it'd take a considerable amount of time to rebuild it from ground up for 3/DS. So they probably did B2/W2 to tide people over till R/S remakes were ready to be shown off. Remember: HG/SS were the last 4th generation games.
SoulSilver said:4a) Hints up the wazoo
In B2/W2 there's a house that in the originals had a Team Rocket member living it, and I can't provide proof of this myself (haven't played B2/W2 in a while) but from what I've heard from multiple people that person is no longer there. Its now a Team Aqua (or Team Magma, I forget) member. A bit of a ... random change wouldn't you agree?
SoulSilver said:4b) Dive has returned to being an HM. This was not the case in 4th generation, yet all of a sudden it is for 5th generation? I think that's because if it wasn't, it'd cause compatibility issues with R/S remakes. Not to mention that due to Dive being an HM we have underwater segments of the games, which further proves that they are subtly hinting to the existence of R/S remakes.
SoulSilver said:4c) Groudon and Kyogre events
Surely we all know of this recent event. You might be a naysayer who says "well its just to celebrate the 10th aniv, nothing else". No, I don't think so. Its always been the first 2 games remade with elements of the 3rd (HG/SS featuring the Suicune subplot) and who are the poster boys of R/S? Groudon and Kyogre. Kinda makes you think why they picked those two in particular for the event.
SoulSilver said:5) Money
This is the biggest reason they will exist.
You might also say "We don't need full remakes, they can slap them onto the eShop". Very true, but Nintendo nor GameFreak would want that. Pokemon is a cashcow. One of Nintendo's biggest. Gamer or not, you know what Pokemon is. Its a household name. Hell, Pokemon has become a literal word due to the massive popularity. Why settle for $5-$10 on eShop when you can get $35 or $40 a pop for full blown remakes? GameFreak and Nintendo are businesses, they want money and as much of it as they can get. Wouldn't make much business sense. You could say 'why not remake 1st or 2nd gen again then?" because we have them already and they know consumers won't buy them again so soon. Will we ever see new R/B and G/S games? I'm not sure, but maybe.
SoulSilver said:6th) Demand
You may not like R/S, but a lot of people love them. Myself included. I've posted this kind of article on GameFAQs and other such places and even done polls, and while those aren't a fraction of gamers, the polls ended with more people WANTING remakes than there are people who oppose them. So this goes back to money -- there's a lot of it to be made with that kind of demand.