(1) Official Japanese Pokemon Website Also Posts About the January 8th Announcement [1/4]

[evilpacman]

Unless you have a valid source it's pretty hard to believe you. Why would they end Pokemon if they are "Evolving in 2013"

Its odd. Its like the information is intentionally vague. I get the feeling its not really ending, instead its just getting revamped. Probably a "new" look. Maybe changes in the way evolution works, new types or the grouping of types. Its very fishy, but its a legit source. I'd prefer not to give information on who gave it to me because they fear they might lose their job if it leaks too early....

 

[signofzeta]

I could totally see it now.

"We regret to inform you that we don't feel like making pokemon games anymore. We sold our franchise to (Place greedy corporation here), and they will now be running the franchise"

Weeks later, press release of new Pokemon 2014 from the greedy corporation is released.

A year from that, press release of the new Pokemon 2015 from greedy corporation is release, which makes Pokemon 2014 incompatible with Pokemon 2015, and is basically exactly the same as Pokemon 2014

Repeat with Pokemon 2016, Pokemon 2017 and so on.

 

[Teal]

Early confirmation that the announcement is the end of Pokemon. The franchise has run its course according to Masuda and they feel that it would be wise to end the series before it gets stale. They are releasing a final set of Pokemon games and it will take place in a new region with the opportunity to visit one of the 5 previous regions apparently. Not much else is revealed other than that. What a shame :/

This is absolutely ridiculous and total BS.

 

[Mudkip711]

Early confirmation that the announcement is the end of Pokemon. The franchise has run its course according to Masuda and they feel that it would be wise to end the series before it gets stale. They are releasing a final set of Pokemon games and it will take place in a new region with the opportunity to visit one of the 5 previous regions apparently. Not much else is revealed other than that. What a shame :/

 

[Pokemonlover903]

I actually welcome Ruby 2 and Sapphire 2 if it were to be real Zielo, this would probably mean new transformations for a few of the Gen 3 Pokemon. If it's true then it's even possible Deoxys in Speed form could make an appearance in Godspeed Genesect, but this of course may he a bit of a stretch.

You know, now that I think of it, I don't think there have been any mentions of the gen 3 legendaries in movies or the anime since their time. How interesting would it be to see one star in the next upcoming Genesect movie?
Deoxys sounds ideal. I can also see the regis or the latis.

i can see that since charizard is making his return

 

[The Pikachu Mafia]

You really think there's been 0 hints to R/S remakes?

Yes. There is nothing that stands out from the casual references that we always get as the games take place in the same fictional universe.

This right here proves that you absolutely aren't even going to consider the possibility of remakes. There are hints for RS remakes just as there are hints for a new generation, sure you can plug your ears and not listen, but the facts are there and your opinion is a biased one if you wont even open yourself up to the facts. At least half his arguments are valid, and if they aren't I could say the same for your arguments. Yes "They've released every Gen V legendary" and "The DS is dead" are just as valid as "They're promoting Kyogre/Groudon/Rayquaza in BW2" and "there are past Aqua/Magma Grunts in a house" and as you can see, neither of them provide very strong points. So based off that I'd say both sides of the argument have an equal chance to come true, stamping out the RS remakes like something that would never happen is just silly, as is denying the 6th gen as a real possibility.

On another note almost everyone I've talked to (here, on other forums, and in real life) wants RS remakes, so why would Game Freak do something that the general population isn't as excited for (I mean if 75% of the pokemon players in the world wanted RS remakes over the 6th gen, then why make the 6th gen first to appease the other 25% of the people?)

 

[beaulier]

Ok, I'm with the ones who strongly believe they're announcing the 6th generation. But by "pokémon evolving in 2013" couldn't they mean that gamefreak is making the games for a console (wiiu) instead of 3ds or a new handheld? I hope not though.

 

[Blui]

I just really think its too early for Gen 6.

Yes because we totally want more DS games near Christmas. It's a 99.999999999999999999% chance that it's Gen 6. All the sites are gonna announce it, Masuda and that other guy ...it's too much exposure for a simple remake.

 

[Teal]

Ok, I'm with the ones who strongly believe they're announcing the 6th generation. But by "pokémon evolving in 2013" couldn't they mean that gamefreak is making the games for a console (wiiu) instead of 3ds or a new handheld? I hope not though.

No, they stated during the B2W2 interview that they will stick with handhelds.

 

[Shiningmilotic]

Eeeeeeeeeee!!!! *jumps up and down* omgomgomgomgomgggggg i wanna know already!!! I am hoping for a 6th en, RSE remake/ downloadable, anime based off the games would be cool, oraaaHhh what else could it be!? I must have to wait...although i dont want to. Hoping this is indeed a mayjor game announcment 100%!!!

 

[Chaos Jackal]

I would like RSE remakes as well. But I'm not very confident of this. As I've said before, could the first (main series) Pokemon game for the 3DS be a remake? I highly doubt it.

 

[ElementFreak]

I registered just because I see how many people are for R/S remakes.

Sure, everyone loves a remake, me too. Nothing better than reliving
the nostalgia. But why do you want it so badly? GameFreak has to
make a decision, what will bring them more money. Think, a remake
or a totally new generation? It looks like you guys don't even want to see
new generations.

Yes, there are a lot of references in games about Hoenn. So is it for
every gen. in every game. And the big announcement for the whole world.
The last time everything so big was planning to be revealed was for
5th gen.

So, my toughs are like this. This is something major big.
I'm 60% on 6th generation games. For the remakes...
I don't see them happening. At least not original ones.
Like someone said I think there might be Emerald remake
or R/S 2. So 40% on "new" R/S.

 

[Mitja]

Yes. There is nothing that stands out from the casual references that we always get as the games take place in the same fictional universe.

This right here proves that you absolutely aren't even going to consider the possibility of remakes. There are hints for RS remakes just as there are hints for a new generation, sure you can plug your ears and not listen, but the facts are there and your opinion is a biased one if you wont even open yourself up to the facts.

Oh please. I am the one with the biased opinion yeah.

I have nothing against RS remakes personally. I'm confident gamefreak will continue making quality games that I will enjoy regardless of them being remakes or new stuff.
I don't prefer gen VI coming next just to piss you off.
I don't care what game comes out, I'll play it.
Do you understand that?

I consider the possibilities based on things that affect gamefreaks developements along with solid evidence, while personally not hoping/wishing for any specific game.

Do you know that I've been explaining to people that GS remakes would come out for at least a year before their announcement? That wasn't because I personally would wanted them either. It was just freakin obvious.

They had Johto programmed into the games as a region Pokemon can come from for crying out loud. THAT was convincing.

Not some "ex-Rocket" being replaced by "ex-Aqua/Magma" in a god-forsaken house you can find in Winter in their spoken text! That one isn't even remotely comparable to say the "Red Gyarados on TV" in the impossible to miss intro of DP.

Yes "They've released every Gen V legendary" and "The DS is dead" are just as valid as "They're promoting Kyogre/Groudon/Rayquaza in BW2" and "there are past Aqua/Magma Grunts in a house" and as you can see, neither of them provide very strong points.

Are you still serious on the DS thing?
Call nintendo or something because I don't know what information you require to understand.

As for Genesect, its not so much that they've all been released, but rather HOW.
They could have kept Genesect secret til February and make it the main star like every year for the past 8 movies at least or so. But heck no they clearly wanted it out of the way because theres something big up their sleeves for 2013.

The stupid "promoting Hoenn legends" thing says nothing and can be used against the argument just as good.

So based off that I'd say both sides of the argument have an equal chance to come true, stamping out the RS remakes like something that would never happen is just silly, as is denying the 6th gen as a real possibility. On another note almost everyone I've talked to (here, on other forums, and in real life) wants RS remakes, so why would Game Freak do something that the general population isn't as excited for (I mean if 75% of the pokemon players in the world wanted RS remakes over the 6th gen, then why make the 6th gen first to appease the other 25% of the people?)

That is not what I heard, apart from threads like this.

And even then the ppl predicting remakes are doing so because they think gamefreak holds on a pattern regardless of the situation (which is obviously a fallacy), not because they would like that to be the case.

Again, WHAT do they lose if they make RSE games after gen VI instead of now? NOTHING, for all we know the demand might be higher by then.

 

[The Pikachu Mafia]

Oh please. I am the one with the biased opinion yeah.

Well given that you just made a lengthy post about how I and everyone else who believes in RS remakes is dead wrong no matter what and you're right because of a couple easily countered arguments, I'd say your opinion is quite biased indeed.

I have nothing against RS remakes personally. I'm confident gamefreak will continue making quality games that I will enjoy regardless of them being remakes or new stuff.
I don't prefer gen VI coming next just to piss you off.
I don't care what game comes out, I'll play it.
Do you understand that?

Yes and I don't care if we get the 6th gen, what does this have to do with anything again?

I consider the possibilities based on things that affect gamefreaks developements along with solid evidence, while personally not hoping/wishing for any specific game.

If our evidence isn't solid (which it isn't) then I hate to think what your evidence is like (certainly it isn't solid either.) so by your logic you should still be open to RS remakes as a possibility since neither side has "solid evidence." But you aren't, I wonder why

Do you know that I've been explaining to people that GS remakes would come out for at least a year before their announcement? That wasn't because I personally would wanted them either. It was just freakin obvious.

They had Johto programmed into the games as a region Pokemon can come from for crying out loud. THAT was convincing.

Okay you were able to predict HGSS successfully, so what? Again that has nothing to do with anything.

Not some "ex-Rocket" being replaced by "ex-Aqua/Magma" in a god-forsaken house you can find in Winter in their spoken text! That one isn't even remotely comparable to say the "Red Gyarados on TV" in the impossible to miss intro of DP.

Okay so let me get this straight, you see a red gyarados on TV and that means we get HGSS guaranteed. Then They promote the Mascots of R/S/E and you can find ex Aqua/Magma members in BW2, but that somehow means the 6th gen? Wait a minute, something doesn't add up here...

Are you still serious on the DS thing?
Call nintendo or something because I don't know what information you require to understand.

I'm afraid you're the one who doesn't understand, I was using it as an example. Apparently you didn't read my last post correctly.

As for Genesect, its not so much that they've all been released, but rather HOW.
They could have kept Genesect secret til February and make it the main star like every year for the past 8 movies at least or so. But heck no they clearly wanted it out of the way because theres something big up their sleeves for 2013.

The stupid "promoting Hoenn legends" thing says nothing and can be used against the argument just as good.

Why would they keep a pokemon secret like that when everyone already knew about it anyways? They tried and failed to do that with Arceus. Also if you can use the Hoenn Legends argument against us, then do it.

That is not what I heard, apart from threads like this.

And even then the ppl predicting remakes are doing so because they think gamefreak holds on a pattern regardless of the situation (which is obviously a fallacy), not because they would like that to be the case.

People aren't predicting, they're wanting, which is a different thing entirely. If the majority of the population WANTS RS remakes, then why would Game Freak do something else, it's not smart. I've even talked to people who said they would simply not buy the 6th gen if it came out this fall.

Again, WHAT do they lose if they make RSE games after gen VI instead of now? NOTHING, for all we know the demand might be higher by then.

"Might" isn't a risk you take in business, that's just a fact and even you should know that.

Again I'm not saying it's impossible that the 6th gen wont happen, I'm not even saying that it would be disappointing, I'm simply stating that you shouldn't go around bashing people who don't believe in the 6th gen when your arguments are just as good as ours.

 

[Teeboy23]

Don't forget, they did this simultaneous announcement last February with Black 2, White 2, Black Kyurem, White Kyurem

 

[Mitja]

Oh please. I am the one with the biased opinion yeah.

Well given that you just made a lengthy post about how I and everyone else who believes in RS remakes is dead wrong no matter what and you're right because of a couple easily countered arguments, I'd say your opinion is quite biased indeed.

I have nothing against RS remakes personally. I'm confident gamefreak will continue making quality games that I will enjoy regardless of them being remakes or new stuff.
I don't prefer gen VI coming next just to piss you off.
I don't care what game comes out, I'll play it.
Do you understand that?

Yes and I don't care if we get the 6th gen, what does this have to do with anything again?

You say my comments are biased, thats what it has to do with it.

They can release RBY for all I care, its just not what gamefreak would do with this situation.

I consider the possibilities based on things that affect gamefreaks developements along with solid evidence, while personally not hoping/wishing for any specific game.

If our evidence isn't solid (which it isn't) then I hate to think what your evidence is like (certainly it isn't solid either.) so by your logic you should still be open to RS remakes as a possibility since neither side has "solid evidence." But you aren't, I wonder why

I have seen no evidence for remakes.
The closest anyone has got was with
-because gamefreak follows a pattern
-because of the aqua/magma guys
which is nonsense and an unimportant reference.

Do you know that I've been explaining to people that GS remakes would come out for at least a year before their announcement? That wasn't because I personally would wanted them either. It was just freakin obvious.

They had Johto programmed into the games as a region Pokemon can come from for crying out loud. THAT was convincing.

Okay you were able to predict HGSS successfully, so what? Again that has nothing to do with anything.

You say my posts are biased, then I explain that I have no reason for that, and your respond by wondering what my point is, twice.

Not some "ex-Rocket" being replaced by "ex-Aqua/Magma" in a god-forsaken house you can find in Winter in their spoken text! That one isn't even remotely comparable to say the "Red Gyarados on TV" in the impossible to miss intro of DP.

Okay so let me get this straight, you see a red gyarados on TV and that means we get HGSS guaranteed. Then They promote the Mascots of R/S/E and you can find ex Aqua/Magma members in BW2, but that somehow means the 6th gen? Wait a minute, something doesn't add up here...

No.
The red gyarados was a noteworthy and important reference, the ex-villains are a joke at most about how things have changed in 2 years which casual players will never even see.
I never claimed that either even remotely guaranteed anything.

As for Genesect, its not so much that they've all been released, but rather HOW.
They could have kept Genesect secret til February and make it the main star like every year for the past 8 movies at least or so. But heck no they clearly wanted it out of the way because theres something big up their sleeves for 2013.

The stupid "promoting Hoenn legends" thing says nothing and can be used against the argument just as good.

Why would they keep a pokemon secret like that when everyone already knew about it anyways? They tried and failed to do that with Arceus. Also if you can use the Hoenn Legends argument against us, then do it.

I'm just gonna ignore the first part, but I DID the second part, am not gonna repeat it another dozen times because it is as moot as the original.

That is not what I heard, apart from threads like this.

And even then the ppl predicting remakes are doing so because they think gamefreak holds on a pattern regardless of the situation (which is obviously a fallacy), not because they would like that to be the case.

People aren't predicting, they're wanting, which is a different thing entirely. If the majority of the population WANTS RS remakes, then why would Game Freak do something else, it's not smart. I've even talked to people who said they would simply not buy the 6th gen if it came out this fall.

Again, WHAT do they lose if they make RSE games after gen VI instead of now? NOTHING, for all we know the demand might be higher by then.

"Might" isn't a risk you take in business, that's just a fact and even you should know that.

Again I'm not saying it's impossible that the 6th gen wont happen, I'm not even saying that it would be disappointing, I'm simply stating that you shouldn't go around bashing people who don't believe in the 6th gen when your arguments are just as good as ours.

You're not more of an expert on gamefreaks business than any one else here. I was trying to tell you that we are all just guessing on that part except for when it gets down to analyzing sales numbers of past games.


About the short comments, frankly Im tired of posting the same arguments on every single one of these threads, just for them to be ignored and everyone to move onto the new one to repeat the same crap all over again.

 

[Chaos Jackal]

Geez.
None of us ever commented they are sure of what there is to happen. I myself believe in Gen VI more than in RSE remakes. But you're writing like you know everything. Stop it please, it's annoying. We will see what happens in 2 days. Whatever it is, I don't care. As you said, we're just guessing. Everybody has their own arguments. But the announcement might be based in something we didn't even think of.

 

[NachoMan]

Well given that you just made a lengthy post about how I and everyone else who believes in RS remakes is dead wrong no matter what and you're right because of a couple easily countered arguments, I'd say your opinion is quite biased indeed.

Yes and I don't care if we get the 6th gen, what does this have to do with anything again?

You say my comments are biased, thats what it has to do with it.

They can release RBY for all I care, its just not what gamefreak would do with this situation.

If our evidence isn't solid (which it isn't) then I hate to think what your evidence is like (certainly it isn't solid either.) so by your logic you should still be open to RS remakes as a possibility since neither side has "solid evidence." But you aren't, I wonder why

I have seen no evidence for remakes.
The closest anyone has got was with
-because gamefreak follows a pattern
-because of the aqua/magma guys
which is nonsense and an unimportant reference.

Okay you were able to predict HGSS successfully, so what? Again that has nothing to do with anything.

You say my posts are biased, then I explain that I have no reason for that, and your respond by wondering what my point is, twice.

Okay so let me get this straight, you see a red gyarados on TV and that means we get HGSS guaranteed. Then They promote the Mascots of R/S/E and you can find ex Aqua/Magma members in BW2, but that somehow means the 6th gen? Wait a minute, something doesn't add up here...

No.
The red gyarados was a noteworthy and important reference, the ex-villains are a joke at most about how things have changed in 2 years which casual players will never even see.
I never claimed that either even remotely guaranteed anything.

Why would they keep a pokemon secret like that when everyone already knew about it anyways? They tried and failed to do that with Arceus. Also if you can use the Hoenn Legends argument against us, then do it.

I'm just gonna ignore the first part, but I DID the second part, am not gonna repeat it another dozen times because it is as moot as the original.

People aren't predicting, they're wanting, which is a different thing entirely. If the majority of the population WANTS RS remakes, then why would Game Freak do something else, it's not smart. I've even talked to people who said they would simply not buy the 6th gen if it came out this fall.


"Might" isn't a risk you take in business, that's just a fact and even you should know that.

Again I'm not saying it's impossible that the 6th gen wont happen, I'm not even saying that it would be disappointing, I'm simply stating that you shouldn't go around bashing people who don't believe in the 6th gen when your arguments are just as good as ours.

You're not more of an expert on gamefreaks business than any one else here. I was trying to tell you that we are all just guessing on that part except for when it gets down to analyzing sales numbers of past games.


About the short comments, frankly Im tired of posting the same arguments on every single one of these threads, just for them to be ignored and everyone to move onto the new one to repeat the same crap all over again.

Well think about that next time you deny someones speculation as it having no chance of happening because your argument is just as good as anyone elses.

 

[Teal]

Well think about that next time you deny someones speculation as it having no chance of happening because your argument is just as good as anyone elses.

Wrong, his arguments are way stronger.

 

[NachoMan]

Well think about that next time you deny someones speculation as it having no chance of happening because your argument is just as good as anyone elses.

Wrong, his arguments are way stronger.

And Teal, you're another one. Going around like you know it all and neither of you don't. Do any of you work for Game Freak? Hmm? I didn't think so.