Martijngamer said:
I'll just say this... I really wanted a Light type but I really don't think that will happen because if that happens they just screwd up by making Reshiram & Zekrom a Fire & and an Electric type respectively...
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I'll just say this... I really wanted a Light type but I really don't think that will happen because if that happens they just screwd up by making Reshiram & Zekrom a Fire & and an Electric type respectively...
New type
Hmm, yes, it seems I was unaware of ''what I started''. That's also why I didn't mention it as news, because the information I have is not really that usefull in the whole discussion.
"at this point" actually refers to 2 months ago, when I was last updated on the subject. I only mentioned it now because it was specifically asked for.
btw, the ''Light-type'' I only quoted from the introduction, referring to the rumours. That's why I put it in a seperate paragraph.
I apologize if that has caused any confusion. Like I said, I am not that well informed on the subject of the extra type, so which type it is, is something I wouldn't dare touch with a 10 foot pole at this point.
@RedKirby
I hope by giving a more story-like explanation, I explain things better then giving point by point answers, but if there are still any gaps, feel free to ask.
First of, about 'the source'.
I have personally known him for quite some years now, I know he has had an affiliation with Nintendo, and I know that in the past he has provided me with inside information that was correct.
He does not work at GF himself, but knows someone there, who shares information with him.
Normally, I don't just go for things I hear via via, but in this case, there were two reasons why I did trust him, namely:
1) I personally know him and he has told me correct information before
2) aside from Minotauross and the snake, the information matches up with the information I have personally received from Nintendo.
I have not yet discussed this matter with him in detail, since he's away right now, but there will definitely be some things to be set right.
Nintendo
If you are a video game specialist (journalist/analyst/jack of all trades (I'd probably be the latter)), you keep in touch with the video game companies. This can either be at events (public events, press events or personal invitations), or if I decide to contact them for something.
Now you have the 'normal' PR talks, but like if you are a good customer at a meat shop, you might get a free slice of meat (here in the Netherlands), if you build a relationship with the companies you work with year after year, you get to trust eachother and the company will know what you can do for them. If they know, that your way of reporting, is intelligent, and honest, they know that trusting you with 'off-the-record' information will be in good hands.
Having run the largest Legend of Zelda-website back then, I've build quite a good relationship with Nintendo, and they know that if they trust me with information, it will be put to good use. That's also how I know with most companies, when they tell me something, if it really is all they know, or if they're holding back some information.
Why me
As I've explained before, 'leaking' information can be a very effective way of marketing. As I've mentioned above, if you do your job well and build the right relationships, you sort of get on an A-list; if they have new and/or exclusive information, you could be the one they will share it with. Now I don't mean to say it's like some secret underground pact or something, but when opportunities arrise, or when you bring up a subject, you may be the lucky one to be given the chance.
That's how for instance, I got to confirm the PlayStation Home-feature for the PS3, a sequel to American McGee's Alice, two years before it's official announcement, the releasedate and online functions of NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams, or the development and destructable environments of Killzone 3. (end of CV-plug)
It's a relationship, and a status, you develop over the years.
Hmm, yes, it seems I was unaware of ''what I started''. That's also why I didn't mention it as news, because the information I have is not really that usefull in the whole discussion.
"at this point" actually refers to 2 months ago, when I was last updated on the subject. I only mentioned it now because it was specifically asked for.
btw, the ''Light-type'' I only quoted from the introduction, referring to the rumours. That's why I put it in a seperate paragraph.
I apologize if that has caused any confusion. Like I said, I am not that well informed on the subject of the extra type, so which type it is, is something I wouldn't dare touch with a 10 foot pole at this point.
@RedKirby
I hope by giving a more story-like explanation, I explain things better then giving point by point answers, but if there are still any gaps, feel free to ask.
First of, about 'the source'.
I have personally known him for quite some years now, I know he has had an affiliation with Nintendo, and I know that in the past he has provided me with inside information that was correct.
He does not work at GF himself, but knows someone there, who shares information with him.
Normally, I don't just go for things I hear via via, but in this case, there were two reasons why I did trust him, namely:
1) I personally know him and he has told me correct information before
2) aside from Minotauross and the snake, the information matches up with the information I have personally received from Nintendo.
I have not yet discussed this matter with him in detail, since he's away right now, but there will definitely be some things to be set right.
Nintendo
If you are a video game specialist (journalist/analyst/jack of all trades (I'd probably be the latter)), you keep in touch with the video game companies. This can either be at events (public events, press events or personal invitations), or if I decide to contact them for something.
Now you have the 'normal' PR talks, but like if you are a good customer at a meat shop, you might get a free slice of meat (here in the Netherlands), if you build a relationship with the companies you work with year after year, you get to trust eachother and the company will know what you can do for them. If they know, that your way of reporting, is intelligent, and honest, they know that trusting you with 'off-the-record' information will be in good hands.
Having run the largest Legend of Zelda-website back then, I've build quite a good relationship with Nintendo, and they know that if they trust me with information, it will be put to good use. That's also how I know with most companies, when they tell me something, if it really is all they know, or if they're holding back some information.
Why me
As I've explained before, 'leaking' information can be a very effective way of marketing. As I've mentioned above, if you do your job well and build the right relationships, you sort of get on an A-list; if they have new and/or exclusive information, you could be the one they will share it with. Now I don't mean to say it's like some secret underground pact or something, but when opportunities arrise, or when you bring up a subject, you may be the lucky one to be given the chance.
That's how for instance, I got to confirm the PlayStation Home-feature for the PS3, a sequel to American McGee's Alice, two years before it's official announcement, the releasedate and online functions of NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams, or the development and destructable environments of Killzone 3. (end of CV-plug)
It's a relationship, and a status, you develop over the years.
ok Martin could you answer me please?
So youve told us all you can about pokemon, so what can you tell us about the released zelda screenshot? considering your history with zelda I think they would talk to you about it? (they being nintendo)
i think that would be a very nice way of prooving your credbility
So youve told us all you can about pokemon, so what can you tell us about the released zelda screenshot? considering your history with zelda I think they would talk to you about it? (they being nintendo)
i think that would be a very nice way of prooving your credbility
Jungle Fever said:ok Martin could you answer me please?
So youve told us all you can about pokemon, so what can you tell us about the released zelda screenshot? considering your history with zelda I think they would talk to you about it? (they being nintendo)
i think that would be a very nice way of prooving your credbility
man, he already explained that... just search a few pages back cuz I'm too lazy post it...
Jungle Fever said:ok Martin could you answer me please?
So youve told us all you can about pokemon, so what can you tell us about the released zelda screenshot? considering your history with zelda I think they would talk to you about it? (they being nintendo)
i think that would be a very nice way of prooving your credbility
Hehehe good one.
Remember to take his words with a grain of salt, people. If he's lying, and I still suspect him of doing so, then if you believe him, you are setting yourself up for disappointment.
The light-type is something I personally "killed" in the Bulbagarden forums before Reshiram's typing was revealed. That, along with the picture, severely injured any credibility he had in my mind.
The light-type is something I personally "killed" in the Bulbagarden forums before Reshiram's typing was revealed. That, along with the picture, severely injured any credibility he had in my mind.
Although you make sense, and I somewhat believe you now, you're acting like you too are a corporate fatcat who's sneaking info for money. I love the idea of knowing before beforehand, but I doubt that it is free. Everything good comes at a price. So far the price was the disappointment in the lame Minotauros image, and the fact that if you're right, the game will be delayed, but will there be a hidden cost? Will you leak too much and make the pipe of information burst? Seriously, you should reveal your source. If that's the one who's lying (partially, at least), cut ties. For the sake of Arceus, we want proof, not rumors!
Also, your explanation is intelligent and realistic. Please discuss the "mistakes" with your source and return info back to us. I don't mean to intrude, but you must tell the world. If you feed a seagull bread, it'll come back for more. Stay out of this or stay in it. But if you stay, there is no turning back.
What the Palkia?! Light types are possible, but they would've given it to Reshiram and they would have decided on it a while ago. Tell us!
Also, your explanation is intelligent and realistic. Please discuss the "mistakes" with your source and return info back to us. I don't mean to intrude, but you must tell the world. If you feed a seagull bread, it'll come back for more. Stay out of this or stay in it. But if you stay, there is no turning back.
What the Palkia?! Light types are possible, but they would've given it to Reshiram and they would have decided on it a while ago. Tell us!
martin's next post should really adresse the zelda picture, or we know hes avoiding the question which is completely valid and justified, and is therefore a troll
@Martijngamer
Thanks for the information. I have a few further questions.
First, regarding your source. Are there any specific examples of the correct information he's told you? You give multiple examples of your confirmations; what were his? What is his relationship with Nintendo, and what would qualify him to receive information being otherwise kept secret by Game Freak?
Regarding Nintendo:
You say you are on Nintendo's "A-list" and that they share information with you personally. Who specifically shares this with you? Where does this take place? Is this the first time that Nintendo specifically has shared info with you?
EDIT: These questions are very in-depth and I understand that you may not be able to answer them. If my questions are going to far, just let me know.
Thanks for the information. I have a few further questions.
First, regarding your source. Are there any specific examples of the correct information he's told you? You give multiple examples of your confirmations; what were his? What is his relationship with Nintendo, and what would qualify him to receive information being otherwise kept secret by Game Freak?
Regarding Nintendo:
You say you are on Nintendo's "A-list" and that they share information with you personally. Who specifically shares this with you? Where does this take place? Is this the first time that Nintendo specifically has shared info with you?
EDIT: These questions are very in-depth and I understand that you may not be able to answer them. If my questions are going to far, just let me know.
RedKirby said:
Wow that's a lot of personal info which he most likely can't share.
Be careful not to reveal too much, Martijn. You never know who's watching.
1. I have 12 billion personalities, each of which takes a different side.
2. Back off of marvin. He doesn't know all the nintendo data. All he knows is what he's said. And stop talking about Zelda. In reference, it's fine, but this is a pokemon fansite, not one for Ocaraina of time or whatever.
3. Back off marvin. Some things are obvious lies. Don't lie. It is bad for your soul.
4. Anonymous sources are always evil villans. Don't you ever watch Spider-Man?
5. Spider-Man was used in a joke and reference. It does not go against the principal I stated in 2.
6. Why does Miltank say, "Mil, Miltank-tank!" instead of the usual "moo"?
7. Just to clarify, is the serpent of eternity thing for the third legendary real or as fake as a Snorlax with insomnia?
8. If Miltank was a legendary, it would be a legendairy! Hahaha. Cow humor.
9. If he was a troll, this wouldn't be Pokemon. It would be dungeons and dragons.
10. Moooooooo...
2. Back off of marvin. He doesn't know all the nintendo data. All he knows is what he's said. And stop talking about Zelda. In reference, it's fine, but this is a pokemon fansite, not one for Ocaraina of time or whatever.
3. Back off marvin. Some things are obvious lies. Don't lie. It is bad for your soul.
4. Anonymous sources are always evil villans. Don't you ever watch Spider-Man?
5. Spider-Man was used in a joke and reference. It does not go against the principal I stated in 2.
6. Why does Miltank say, "Mil, Miltank-tank!" instead of the usual "moo"?
7. Just to clarify, is the serpent of eternity thing for the third legendary real or as fake as a Snorlax with insomnia?
8. If Miltank was a legendary, it would be a legendairy! Hahaha. Cow humor.
9. If he was a troll, this wouldn't be Pokemon. It would be dungeons and dragons.
10. Moooooooo...
Hi there!
I'm a guy from Spain (sorry, my english may not be the best), another one of those who had been lurking here, watching almost all your comments in absolute silence about Tauros evolution and few more speculations that come from Martijn Müller...
Till now, I thought I couldn't say nothing that's already said... but Mr. Müller has now left out something WEIRD about the new light type that I personally find it illogical for some reasons, and that's why I'm breaking my silence. Now I explain:
Well Martijn, once again, you throw up another speculation: you said there's a possibility of Game-Freak including the Light type on this upcoming games. I must honestly say that, the first time I saw the new pokémon games official names, black & white, my mind instantly started to wonder about the remote possibility of a new type called "Light" or somewhat similar, the new and logical counterpart to "Dark". Later, we are shown the main legendaries from both games. A white and a black beast. My mental speculation about that new type keeps growing and growing. Then we are told that this games revolves around ying and yang theme. Ok, now I'm in a constant mental stroke. When I see Reshiram and Zekrom I start leaving my hopes on Game-Freak to make them being Dark-type (Zekrom) and the desired (in my case) LIGHT-type (Reshiram). It seems that all the pieces starts joining perfectly, so my ideal of the new Light-type creation starts going further away: I thought that would be great if Pokémon that were once Normal-type that were too "special and magical" to be " just normal" would now be "Light-type" (Cleffa, Clefairy, Clefable, Togepi, Togetic, Togekiss, even Arceus). I always though that a Raticate has nothing related with a Togetic. Togetic looks too magical for being in the same sake where too common Pokémon are. And I thought that this upcoming games would be the perfect excuse to throw up this new type. Everything fits: Light-Dark, Black-White, Ying-Yang, a battle between good and evil... Light-type would hurt Dark-type. Dark would hurt Light... All was too logical and fitting for me!
But, after all this mental stroke of mine, the confirmed news about Reshiram and Zekrom types finally came. All my illusions from all this concept about LIGHT went to the trash. Electric and Fire..."WHAT THE HELL?" I thought... "They definitely look like if they must be Light and Dark, not electric nor fire!" I could not believe it.
From then, I've been VERY disappointed. The perfect scenario to create the new Light type, and Game-Freak has thrown it away...
So, now, ignoring all that facts, you Martijn come here happily and say that there's even the possibility of the addition of Light type? It just doesn't sound a consistent approach any more! Reshiram is FIRE type official, not LIGHT as I was expecting for! I would LOVE to believe you, but now it looks impossible, man.
I hardly tried to give you the benefit of doubt all along this crazy boom you created, but now for that reason I think you may be telling us blatant inconsistent lies. This, or maybe Nintendo and Game-Freak are starting to loose any logical sense on pokémon-typing... (both options are viable).
Only time will tell the truth.
Sorry for the length, guys. And I hope to see and answer coming from you, Martijn.
I think that's all XD
i'm need to go sleep just NOW, here at Spain we are 4:10 AM!
I'm a guy from Spain (sorry, my english may not be the best), another one of those who had been lurking here, watching almost all your comments in absolute silence about Tauros evolution and few more speculations that come from Martijn Müller...
Till now, I thought I couldn't say nothing that's already said... but Mr. Müller has now left out something WEIRD about the new light type that I personally find it illogical for some reasons, and that's why I'm breaking my silence. Now I explain:
Well Martijn, once again, you throw up another speculation: you said there's a possibility of Game-Freak including the Light type on this upcoming games. I must honestly say that, the first time I saw the new pokémon games official names, black & white, my mind instantly started to wonder about the remote possibility of a new type called "Light" or somewhat similar, the new and logical counterpart to "Dark". Later, we are shown the main legendaries from both games. A white and a black beast. My mental speculation about that new type keeps growing and growing. Then we are told that this games revolves around ying and yang theme. Ok, now I'm in a constant mental stroke. When I see Reshiram and Zekrom I start leaving my hopes on Game-Freak to make them being Dark-type (Zekrom) and the desired (in my case) LIGHT-type (Reshiram). It seems that all the pieces starts joining perfectly, so my ideal of the new Light-type creation starts going further away: I thought that would be great if Pokémon that were once Normal-type that were too "special and magical" to be " just normal" would now be "Light-type" (Cleffa, Clefairy, Clefable, Togepi, Togetic, Togekiss, even Arceus). I always though that a Raticate has nothing related with a Togetic. Togetic looks too magical for being in the same sake where too common Pokémon are. And I thought that this upcoming games would be the perfect excuse to throw up this new type. Everything fits: Light-Dark, Black-White, Ying-Yang, a battle between good and evil... Light-type would hurt Dark-type. Dark would hurt Light... All was too logical and fitting for me!
But, after all this mental stroke of mine, the confirmed news about Reshiram and Zekrom types finally came. All my illusions from all this concept about LIGHT went to the trash. Electric and Fire..."WHAT THE HELL?" I thought... "They definitely look like if they must be Light and Dark, not electric nor fire!" I could not believe it.
From then, I've been VERY disappointed. The perfect scenario to create the new Light type, and Game-Freak has thrown it away...
So, now, ignoring all that facts, you Martijn come here happily and say that there's even the possibility of the addition of Light type? It just doesn't sound a consistent approach any more! Reshiram is FIRE type official, not LIGHT as I was expecting for! I would LOVE to believe you, but now it looks impossible, man.
I hardly tried to give you the benefit of doubt all along this crazy boom you created, but now for that reason I think you may be telling us blatant inconsistent lies. This, or maybe Nintendo and Game-Freak are starting to loose any logical sense on pokémon-typing... (both options are viable).
Only time will tell the truth.
Sorry for the length, guys. And I hope to see and answer coming from you, Martijn.
I think that's all XD
i'm need to go sleep just NOW, here at Spain we are 4:10 AM!
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