(2) New HGSS Images, New Arceus Cards [6/15]

viper.fox said:
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I need this card. It's (almost too) epic. <3

EDIT: The area west of Cianwood is obviously a Pal Park. It can't be a Battle Frontier.
- It has no buildings, except for the entrance building.
- It's divided into several areas based on the landscape or whatever.


Also, the Suicune-spot in Cianwood (Crystal-exclusive) can be seen on the Johto-map.
!!!
 
That heatran does look pretty nice ^.^

Anyone think that the area next to Cianwood could be like a Great Marsh? I was just thinking about the way it's been divided into 6 sections and that made me think of the Pastoria Great Marsh. It would make sense considering that Johto didn't really have its own Safari Zone and, if memory serves, the one in Kanto had been closed for some reason?
 
Hey, for anyone that cares, I enlarged the picture of the set posted on page 1 in Photoshop, if anyone wants to try and make out any Pokemon in it.

EDIT: I see a Nosepass (rock type), Probopass (steel), Omanyte (water), Wingull (water), Pelipper (water), Makuhita, Electrike, Manectric, Hariyama, Buneary, Lopunny, Bebe's, and Professor Oak's Visit.
 
I might be going crazy, but in the second to last row (Above the Energy), fourth card to the left, I think I see a new Rare Candy art? And I think the card before the "Rare Candy" might be an Old Amber, as I also think the card before that is another fossil. I also noticed the first two Water-Types seem to be Omanyte and Omastar. Unless I'm going blind, or the blurry picture is too deceiving, there are a few cards that are easy to make out, as listed by Canis Lupus.
 
I think these are
1. Can't make out
2-4. Tangela, Tangrowth, Tangrowth Lv.X
5-7. Treecko, Grovyle, Sceptile
8-13. Burmy, Wormadam, Wormadam, Wormadam, Mothin
14-15. Cherubi, Cherrim
16-19. Charmander, Charmeleon, Charizard
20-22. Ponyta, Shiny Ponyta, Rapidash
23. Can't make out
24-25. Omanyte, Omastar
26-27. Wingull, Pelliper
28-30. Spheal, Sealeo, Walrien
31. Can't make out
32-34. Pichu, Pikachu, Raichu
35-36. Electrike, Manectric
37-39. Shinx, Luxio, Luxray
40. Can't tell
41-44. Gastly, Haunter, Gengar, Gengar Lv.X
45-46. Exeggcute, Exeggutor
47-49. Geodude, Graveler, Golem

My eyes can't take it anymore o_O
 
Bippa201 said:
I think these are
1. Can't make out Beedrill G
2-4. Tangela, Tangrowth, Tangrowth Lv.X
5-7. Treecko, Grovyle, Sceptile
8-13. Burmy, Wormadam, Wormadam, Wormadam, Mothin
14-15. Cherubi, Cherrim
16-19. Charmander, Charmeleon, Charizard
20-22. Ponyta, Shiny Ponyta, Rapidash
23. Can't make out Moltres G
24-25. Omanyte, Omastar
26-27. Wingull, Pelliper
28-30. Spheal, Sealeo, Walrien
31. Can't make out Articuno G
32-34. Pichu, Pikachu, Raichu
35-36. Electrike, Manectric
37-39. Shinx, Luxio, Luxray
40. Can't tell Zapdos G
41-44. Gastly, Haunter, Gengar, Gengar Lv.X
45-46. Exeggcute, Exeggutor
47-49. Geodude, Graveler, Golem

My eyes can't take it anymore o_O
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I completed some parts, yay for me.
 
I'm thinking that 1 is probably Beedrill G, being as it was confirmed in the set. 40 is probably Zapdos G. 31 is probably the Water Arceus, but since we have Zapdos G, maybe it is Articuno G (thereby making 23 Articuno G)?

EDIT: ninja'd

Oh, and PorygonZ is to the direct right of Lopunny. Also, having Omastar and Aero makes me think Kabutops will be here too. Ratatta and Raticate are to the right of Steel Arceus.
 
1. Beedrill G
2-4. Tangela, Tangrowth, Tangrowth Lv.X
5-7. ??? (Treecko, Grovyle perhaps)
8-12. Burmy, Wormadam, Wormadam, Wormadam, Mothin
13-14. Cherubi, Cherrim
15-17. Charmander, Charmeleon, Charizard
18-20. Ponyta, Shiny Ponyta, Rapidash
21. Moltres G?
22-23. Omanyte, Omastar
24-25. Wingull, Pelliper
26-28. Spheal, Sealeo, Walrein (???)
29. Splash Arceus
30-32. Pichu, Pikachu, Raichu
33. Zapdos G
34-35. Electrike, Manectric
36-38. Shinx, Luxio, Luxray (???)
39. ???
40-43. Gastly, Shiny Gastly, Haunter?, Gengar LV.X
44-45. Exeggcute, Exeggutor
46-48. Geodude, Graveler, Golem
49-51. ???
52-53. Makuhita, Hariyama
54. Nosepass
55-57. ??? (Kabuto/Kabutops in here somewhere)
58. Earth Arceus
59. Spiritomb
60. Dread Arceus
61-63. ???
64. Probopass
65. Iron Arceus
66-67. Rattata, Raticate
68-72. Bagon, Shiny Bagon, Shelgon, Salamence, Salamence LV.X
73-74. Buneary, Lopunny
75. PorygonZ G
76. No Plate Arceus
77. Arceus LV. X (Creation)
78. Energy Search
79-80. ???
81. Helix Fossil?
82. Dome Fossil?
83. Old Amber?
84. Rare Candy?
85-86. ???
87. Professor Oak's Visit
88. ???
89. Bebe's Search
90. ???

EDIT: Some Pokemon are in the theme decks only, like Sceptile and Gengar. @_@ idk if Sceptile's preevolutions are in there or not.

EDIT2: And some of the stuff on the last list posted doesn't match up with types shown on the cards and stuff @_@

EDIT3: Compiled it all into one list with what I know for certain and what I'm guessing. If they did Zapdos G, I would suspect that they would do Moltres G and Articuno G, and there's room for Moltres G, but no room for Articuno G, besides in the space where Spheal, Sealeo, and Walrein are currently placed.

EDIT4: Renamed the Arceus by their plates.
 
I think 79 is Beginning Door or whatever it's called. (Battle Tour/Whatever Promo), 80 looks like Pokemon Rescue.

EDIT 1: I think after Dread Arceus, there's another Trash Cloak Wormadam, and after Nosepass looks like another Sand Cloak Wormadam.

EDIT 2: Heh, straining my eyes here...But I also think after Golem, it looks like the three Hitmons. And after what I said looks like Trash Wormadam, it looks like Bronzor and Bronzong.

EDIT 3: To make this simpler: 61: Trash Cloak Wormadam?, 62-63: Bronzor, Bronzong?, 49-51: Hitmonlee/chan/top?, 55: Sandy Cloak Wormadam, 79: Beginning Door, 80: Pokemon Rescue.

I'll add more as I kill my eyesight even more XD

EDIT 4: 36-39: Shinx, Shiny Shinx, Luxio, Luxray
 
The pokémon are organized by Pokédex number with the only exceptions being the new evolutions/babys standing after/before their basic/evolution forms
1 - probably Beedrill G
2 - Tangela
3 - Tangrowth
4 - Tangrowth Lv. X
5 - ???
6 - ???
7 - ???
8 - Burmy Plant Cloak
9 - Burmy Sand Cloak
10 - Burmy Trash Cloak (although it looks more like Wormadam to me)
11 - Wormadam Plant Cloak
12 - Mothim
13 - Cherubi
14 - Cherrim Overcast form (I guess that's the name of the form)
15 - Charmander
16 - Charmeleon
17 - Charizard
18 - Ponyta
19 - Ponyta (shiny)
20 - Rapidash
21 - I'm not sure but it looks like Heatran... There's no Moltres G or Articuno G
22 - Omanyte
23 - Omastar, i guess
24 - Wingull
25 - Pelipper
26 - ???
27 - ???
28 - ???
29 - Arceus (Water)
30 - Pichu
31 - Pikachu
32 - Raichu
33 - Zapdos G
34 - Electrike
35 - Manectric
36 - Shinx
37 - Shinx (shiny)
38 - Luxio
39 - Luxray
40/41/42 - ??? (Note: for those who think that here fits gastly, haunter and gengar, I remerber you that those are exclusive from the theme decks. Although they could make 2 cards of each, I don't think that will happen.)
43 - Gengar Lv. X
44/45 - Bronzor/Bronzong or Croagunk/Toxicroak or neither
46/47/48 - not sure but the 47 looks like a Graveler jumping so it might be geodude, graveler, golem
49/50/51 - ??? (maybe kabuto, kabutops and aerodactyl, since there are omanyte and omastar)
52 - Makuhita
53 - Hariyama
54 - Nosepass
55 - Wormadam Sand Cloak
56/57 - If croagunk/toxicroak aren't psychic, then they're here. if not, ???.
58 - Arceus (Fighting - actually it is the ground type arceus and not fight one)
59 - really looks like Spiritomb
60 - Arceus (Darkness)
61 - looks like Wormadam Trash Cloak
62/63 - if bronzor/bronzong aren't psychic, then they're here.
64 - Probopass
65 - Arceus (Metal)
66 - ???
67 - ???
68 - Bagon
69 - Bagon (shiny)
70 - Shelgon
71 - Salamence
72 - Salamence Lv. X
73 - Buneary
74 - Lopunny
75 - Porygon-Z G
76 - Arceus (Colorless)
77 - Arceus Lv. X
78 - Energy Search
79 - looks like "Begining Door" - the trainer card that will be released as a gym challenge promo in japan
80 - Pokémon Rescue
81 - ???
82 - ???
83 - ???
84 - Rare Candy
85 - ???
86 - ???
87 - Professor Oak's Visit
88 - ???
89 - Bebe's Search
90 - ???
__ - Basic Energies
 
Wow, I forgot about Shinx. I'm thinking that Shiny Gastly will be in the set; I don't think that they will put it in the decks. And as for Articuno G/Moltres G, I just think it's highly unlikely that they would only include only one of the trio, although it is possible (in most sets they did include all three except for the Gym sets).
 
It should be noted that while Sceptile line and Gengar line are confirmed for the decks, the Gengar LV.X is in this set and they always have full evolutionary lines usually. You can clearly see it's Gengar next to Gengar LV.X, which means haunter and gastly are prior to it. You can see the red belly of Grovyle in the grass types before the Burmy/Wormadam/Mothim line. It'll be likely that these cards will be the same as the deck ones but with alternate art. This is all the Pokemon myself, heerosferret, and a few others from the collectors community managed to work out.

BeedrillG
Tangela
Tangrowth
Tangrowth LV.X
Treeko
Grovyle
Sceptile
Burmy
Wormadam (Trash)
Wormadam (Sandy)
Wormadam (Grass)
Mothim
Cherubi
Cherrim (Overcast Forme)

Charmander
Charmeleon
Charizard
Ponyta
Ponyta (Shiny)
Rapidash
Heatran

Omanyte
Omastar
Wingull
Pelipper
???
???
???
Arceus (Water)

Pichu
Pikachu
Raichu
ZapdosG
Electivire
Manectric
Shinx
Shinx (Shiny)
Luxio
Luxray

Gastly
Haunter
Gengar
Gengar LV.X
???
???

Geodude
Graveller
Golem
???
???
???
Makuhita
Hariyama
Nosepass
???
???
???
Arceus (Fighting)

Spiritomb?
Arceus (Dark)

Bronzor
Bronzong
???
Probopass
Arceus (Steel)

???
???
Bagon
Bagon (Shiny)
Shelgon
Salamence
Salamence LV.X
Buneary
Lopunny
Porygon-Z G
Arceus
Arceus LV.X

TRAINERS
 
I know that the ones before Bagon is Rattata and Raticate.
The one before Probopass is Wormadam TC
Im sure Croagunk and Toxicroak will be Fighting type this time.
Sandy cloak Wormadam will be in F area....
So yeah.
And those Wormadams you see... They're Burmies IMO.

So actually.
BeedrillG
Tangela
Tangrowth
Tangrowth LV.X
Treeko
Grovyle
Sceptile
Burmy (Plant)
Burmy (Sandy)
Burmy (Trash)
Wormadam (Plant)
Mothim
Cherubi
Cherrim (Overcast Forme)

Charmander
Charmeleon
Charizard
Ponyta
Ponyta (Shiny)
Rapidash
Heatran

Omanyte
Omastar
Wingull
Pelipper
???
???
???
Arceus (Water)

Pichu
Pikachu
Raichu
ZapdosG
Electivire
Manectric
Shinx
Shinx (Shiny)
Luxio
Luxray

Gastly
Haunter
Gengar
Gengar LV.X
???
???

Geodude
Graveller
Golem
Kabuto
Kabutops
Aerodactyl
Makuhita
Hariyama
Nosepass
Wormadam (Sand Cloak)
Croagunk
Toxicroak
Arceus (Fighting)

Spiritomb
Arceus (Dark)

Bronzor
Bronzong
Wormadam (Trash Cloak)
Probopass
Arceus (Steel)

Ratatta
Raticate
Bagon
Bagon (Shiny)
Shelgon
Salamence
Salamence LV.X
Buneary
Lopunny
Porygon-Z G
Arceus
Arceus LV.X

TRAINERS

So only 5 unknowns lol
 
@viper. fox- I'm fairly sure the two cards that precede the Bagon line are Rattata and Raticate- look at the card to the right of Steel Arceus. You can see a purple body, and a distinct purple tail, and the Pokemon in the next card is brown.

EDIT: wow, ninja'd, and I didn't even notice until 2.5 hours later @_@
 
It does? I never knew Exeggcute was dark purple (or something like that) and looked nothing like a bunch of eggs/seeds. õ-Õ
Also, the one after it looks NOTHING like an Exeggutor..
 
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