Battle road discussion thread.

[Futa]

In early game there is no way someone could do that kind of damage.

Rampardos actually can.

Also Blaziken doesn't have to discard like Infernape. I really am thinking about playing him if I can get the cards.

Yeah, no discard.

I have a test version of it right now, it is really fast.

Not really, amazingly fast. Easily outspeeds many things, and possibly Machamp.

 

[PokeKid Brandon]

What happens later game when you are stuck attacking with luxray for mediocre damage?

 

[Brawler]

You are not attacking with Luxray usually, it's situational. If you've been KO'ed, you'll be attacking with Promo Croak, and Burning Claydols. Lux helps against Water, even with Vapor Kick.

 

[DawnOfXatu]

70 damage still 2HKO's pretty much everything that is common in the format, so attacking with Luxray isn't such a terrible prospect.

 

[Brawler]

Yeah, but most of the time you may have better things to do.

 

[PokeKid Brandon]

W/E it is your deck you can run it how you want and I can run my deck like I want.

 

[gengar the baller]

In early game there is no way someone could do that kind of damage.

This is what I've been trying to tell PokeKid Brandon. He won't listen.

Blaziken is so fast, it outclasses Infernape. It can do other things too, such as burning a Claydol and having them locked for a turn.

ummm... mankey SV says hi.

all they have to do is find a way to poison/burn/crobat g/ whatever else, the blaziken, and then blaziken FB lv x can be one shot by a searchable basic for one energy. Not only that but he'll be susceptible to a load of other attacks that do damage+special condition because you'll have energy gain attached to him instead of unown G.

Relicanth has a good shot at OHKO-ing him as well as I'm sure they'll probably have at least one energy gain (if not two), and a stadium in play by the time they level up.

also they can just charge up an empoleon FB on their bench, let you kill something and then retaliate right away.

please don't think that blaziken FB is so fast it's untouchable, because it's really not that hard to KO on T2 or T3

Um, well that Manky you play is an easy prize. It could be KO'd and done with quickly. Also it can't one shot Blaziken with an extra Crobat or plus power.

 

[PokeKid Brandon]

^It can if you jet smashed which is what we are discussing.

 

[gengar the baller]

You'd still need the Crobat though.

 

[PokeKid Brandon]

Yea but getting a crobat is not that hard.

 

[Brawler]

Since when would a deck tech Mankey and Crobat G just for Blaziken? Really, it's not that likely.

 

[PokeKid Brandon]

It would be it's own deck. (Well not mankey but that is what you would start with.

 

[Frodus]

Since when would a deck tech Mankey and Crobat G just for Blaziken? Really, it's not that likely.

A lot of decks will be teching either mankey or relicanth to try and counter Luxray GL. it just so happens that both of those pokemon can do some serious damage against blaziken FB as well (as long as he's used Jet Shoot the previous turn).

 

[PokeKid Brandon]

^Any pokemon can do massive damage to Blaze after he jet shoots.

 

[gengar the baller]

Except Rampardos who goes right through the effect.

 

[PokeKid Brandon]

Yea but oh well. What really happened to rampy any ways?

 

[charzard 10210]

Dialga G,

People were afraid of starting with Uxie so They could lock the whole game.

 

[PokeKid Brandon]

Ohhh. Do you think that it will see more play once dialga G starts to see less play beacuse of blaziken?

 

[Futa]

And.. Dialga G could lock BTS and Rare Candy, preventing a T1 and ruining Rampardos. But now, Gastly SF should be a problem as he can lock down Fossils and trainers. That's a problem. So your T1 would come from a lucky start and BTS.

 

[PokeKid Brandon]

Yea I guess so.